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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on July 30, 2011, 12:16:48 PM
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Yeah it is puzzling why businesses would advertise to a base that generally has at least some disposable income, they should be advertising to people who don't have money. :whatever:
certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-30-11 09:26 AM
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Why do businesses advertise on right wing radio stations? Shame on them.
I just heard an ad for Whole Foods during Sean Hannity's show.
I've heard ads for the US food stamp program during Rush Limbaugh's show, a guy who regularly ridicules people who need food stamps and has done more to threaten such programs than any other American.
The Pella and Anderson window manufacturers advertise on right wing radio while touting energy savings. Like many other construction related companies they could increase their business by leaps and bounds if the US started to retrofit for energy efficiency. Or improve and expand infrastructure. But Limbaugh and Hannity and most local right wing talkers are dedicated to global warming denial and obstruction of any action to deal with our most important problem.
For months Limbaugh and Hannity and probably 99% of the talkers on right wing radio have been sending the same messages about the debt ceiling- the ones most Republican and Tea Party representatives are repeating now. Default is no big deal. And after paying off the debt Obama's going to have to start cutting 'parasites' and 'bottom feeders' from 'entitlement' programs.
Why would any sane business support and endorse their economic terrorism? Defaulting could be disastrous for all business. How many of those sponsors will suffer from higher interest rates and worried consumers? And climate change is a national security threat.
Why would universities endorse those stations by broadcasting their athletics on them? How do those associations jive with university 'mission statements' and stated goals? How many students who go to those universities will suffer in terms of grants and loans?
I can think of two main reasons a business sponsors right wing radio.
1) It's good business. They're loud with many possible customers. Maybe their ad agency included it in a package.
2) The business owner is an ignorant racist jerk.
Very few of the business owners I've spoken with defend the racism and global warming denial. Most don't listen to the shows and may believe that it's all just political theater to bring in customers. I think in most parts of the country business is the main reason.
I spoke with a couple of Democrats who told me they wanted the loudest signal - it was business - and then ended up sponsoring the smaller progressive station in the area. It sounded like they had never seriously thought of their negative role
I've spoken with employees who were horrified to find out their organizations or employers were advertising on the Limbaugh station.
I suspect this is the rule, not the exception, and many business owners and managers would find alternatives with a little prodding. Such as when they get a few calls. Or maybe when they hear of a protest at those stations.
There are many blue communities that are dominated by right wing radio and have NO progressive radio. If the talkers were merely conservative that might make sense.
But if they are part of a coordinated attack on democracy, directed by corporate think tanks to short circuit the normal feedback mechanisms a democracy needs to sort out what is true and important, they need to be challenged, not ignored.
Those radio stations are capable of making national rational discussion of our most important issues impossible by creating an alternate reality with a different set of facts. Tea Party facts. And with call screening and paid callers there is no one standing in front of the carnival barkers to yell back "You're a liar and a fool."
That has to change if this is going to get better.
Shame on all of those sponsors.
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First of all what in the hell are you doing listening to Hannity? I thought that was against the rules at DUmmyland.
Secondly, if you think for a second that most business give a flying crap about where people stand politically, you are a fool. The only thing businesses care about is reaching potential customers who will buy what they are selling, and make money off of it.
I also love how the DUmmy brings up the paid callers bullshit. That was debunked long ago. The only paid callers were on comedy shows where they were pulling pranks, and the person getting pranked was in on it, all because they are worried that some liberal pansy will get pranked and sue, so they hire actors.
certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-30-11 11:32 AM
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13. but in the window example , it is a bad business decision based on a lack of knowledge that RW radio
has been instrumental in obstructing action on global warming- and that is a failure of the left wing also
I'd say it is good business to support radio that supports that global warming is a hoax. By obstructing all the bullshit taxes and stuff you want all in the name of global warming, that makes running business easier. If you get your way businesses will be hurt by all the taxes that you want, and the over regulations.
Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-30-11 09:50 AM
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5. Because customers listen to those shows and businesses want their money...
The Hannity demographic is their demographic. Business is an amoral enterprise and profit is their only purpose.
Why else would anyone start a business other than to profit?
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You have to wonder what DUmmies think businesses are supposed to do? Why would anyone start one if they didn't expect a profit?? ::) ::)
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-30-11 09:50 AM
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5. Because customers listen to those shows and businesses want their money...
The Hannity demographic is their demographic. Business is an amoral enterprise and profit is their only purpose.
It's called capitalism, you ****in' asshat! I know, we should all go into business to lose money, just like O'bummer and the feds, right?
What a stinkin' POS this guy is!
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You know, I'm really confused about this statement a primitive made:
Business is an amoral enterprise and profit is their only purpose.
Why is it wrong for a business to exist only for the purpose of making a profit?
Don't primitives themselves exist only for the purpose of living off other people?
At least with a business, one gets something in return.
With a subsidized primitive, well, that's debatable.
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You know, I'm really confused about this statement a primitive made:
Why is it wrong for a business to exist only for the purpose of making a profit?
Don't primitives themselves exist only for the purpose of living off other people?
At least with a business, one gets something in return.
With a subsidized primitive, well, that's debatable.
Ah..............but accordin' to the "bummer", gubmint will just hand ya some of his stash! Why else would anyone vote for this POS?
This presidency will go down in history as the closest we ever came to dyin' on the vine!
Too bad I can't afford a Barret!
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You have to wonder what DUmmies think businesses are supposed to do?
Provide jobs and pay taxes. Their thinking does not go any further than that.
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Why else would anyone start a business other than to profit?
I assume you mean 'aside from pie shoppes,' hmmm?
:-)
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You have to wonder what DUmmies think businesses are supposed to do? Why would anyone start one if they didn't expect a profit?? ::) ::)
And in order to profit, they need to advertise on stations that actually have more than half a dozen listeners. :-)
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I assume you mean 'aside from pie shoppes,' hmmm?
No, the profit imperative is alive and well at pie shops that actually exist.
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You know they never seem to make the connection that higher profits means the company generally needs to hire new workers to keep up with the increased demand.
Cindie
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You know they never seem to make the connection that higher profits means the company generally needs to hire new workers to keep up with the increased demand.
Cindie
They don't believe in trickle down economics.
Mostly because in order for it to trickle down, you have to do something to earn that money.
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No, the profit imperative is alive and well at pie shops that actually exist.
Well, if you're going to limit it to businesses that actually exist, you'll take all the DUmmie enterprises right off the table!
:hammer:
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You know, I'm really confused about this statement a primitive made:
Why is it wrong for a business to exist only for the purpose of making a profit?
Don't primitives themselves exist only for the purpose of living off other people?
At least with a business, one gets something in return.
With a subsidized primitive, well, that's debatable.
frank,
Like a blind squirrel, the DUmmie occasionally finds a nut.
"Amoral" and "immoral" being different ideas ("lying outside the sphere to which moral judgments apply" vs. "violating a moral code"), it is correct to say that the end purpose of business is to make a profit, and that purpose is amoral.
(http://raisedonhoecakes.com/ROH/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Blind-Squirrel-Finds-a-Nut-small.jpg)
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Too bad I can't afford a Barret!
AR, I can, but won't buy one. There wouldn't be enough of the ammo around when society breaks down. But, if I did buy one, I would let you man it in defense of my tater patch, if you lived close to me. For now, my arsenal is 5.56 and 7.62 mm. Those bullets will be around by the bushel basket when da breakdown come.
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They don't believe in trickle down economics.
Mostly because in order for it to trickle down, you have to do something to earn that money.
They believe in "trickle down" something . . . remember, they have a fixation for "teabagging" . . . :tongue:
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I guess businesses advertise on RW stations because they ACTUALLY HAVE LISTENERS! :thatsright:
I remember a time, not so long ago, when "profit" wasn't a "four-letter word", "rich" wasn't a sin, and presidents didn't lie.
Reagan, we need you again... :(
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AR, I can, but won't buy one. There wouldn't be enough of the ammo around when society breaks down. But, if I did buy one, I would let you man it in defense of my tater patch, if you lived close to me. For now, my arsenal is 5.56 and 7.62 mm. Those bullets will be around by the bushel basket when da breakdown come.
A .50 BMG rifle is a very special-purpose kind of thing, if you view it in that light it isn't hard to look at a few hundred rounds of assorted projo types on hand when TSHTF as a lifetime supply. I am a totally-devoted adherent of sticking only with military calibers, and some very long-established civilian ones that have stood the test of generations, though.
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Just remember that the DUchebags are all about freedom and liberty as long as you do as the smarterest people in the universe believe you out to. If the primitives had any power they would surely squash both the First and Second Amendments immediately.
Scratch a Liberal, find a fascist...now more than ever.