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Hatchling (838 posts) Fri Jul-29-11 07:48 PM
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Well I am effectively homeless as of Sep, 1.
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 08:01 PM by Hatchling
I just collected my mail. My landlord just raised my rent by a $100 dollars a month due to the sinking economy. And she knows I can't pay it.
There are no rents for 1 bedroom apartments or even studios for less than that in San Diego and I still have 7 years to go on the Section 8 housing list.
Edit for Error in date.
I confabulated the SS checks threat date with the rent increase, It's September 1st not Aug 1st.
Sorry I am so rattled lately that it's very easy to get confused right now.
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You're looking for affordable housing in California? Good luck. Maybe you can move to Nevada.
My landlord has raised my rent by the same amount and more in the six years I've been here. I will be moving. Tough luck.
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Move in with Google Nads. Hear she has a noisy condo near a freeway in San Diego.
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rucky (1000+ posts) Fri Jul-29-11 07:53 PM
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4. That bites. My humble advice, as a landlord myself..
Keep paying your old rent until you're evicted.
That could buy you several months. It's a pain in the ass (and costly) for a landlord to evict in California.
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Fri Jul-29-11 07:56 PM
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7. I agree. It took months for my stepmother to evict a tenant who was paying nothing
at all. The woman could afford the condo, but she decided to take advantage of the California laws and stayed put for six months without ever paying rent.
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Hatchling (838 posts) Fri Jul-29-11 08:08 PM
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10. Thank you for the advice.
I may have to although it could be problematic since her apartment is just next door to mine. She could do a lot of hasseling in person.
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rucky (1000+ posts) Fri Jul-29-11 09:02 PM
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29. It's less problematic than being homeless.
Eff her. You're not her ATM that she can just hit up because she needs more money. There's no reason for rents to go up when property values and property taxes are going down. Pay her what you have been. Tell her "sorry, times are tough. If you have to evict me, I'll understand." As long as you're a steady payer, chances are she won't if she has any sense.
Eff her?! Really?? You have no frickin' idea what this landlord has done for this person. They may have been leasing this place to the DUmmie for $200/month below the market just to help out a human being. I am a landlord. We do these things. Sometimes you have to stop eating the loss and raise the rent.
God what a bunch of losers.
KC
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Having said that. A couple of years ago I had to raise the rent on a guy who was in one of my houses. He was paying about $200/month less than I could rent the home for. I hadn't raised his rent in 5 years.
When I finally decided I had to raise his rent I went up $75/month. He hit the roof. He said there was no way in hell he was going to pay that and that I couldn't rent it out for that. I told him I could rent it for $200/month more .... he didn't believe me. He moved out.
One week later I had a new tenant paying $200/month more than he was. Where he moved to to keep his rent level was a bad area and he was robbed within a month.
KC
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And DUmmies, this is all happening with a Democratic in the White House and a Democrat Senate. Suck it.
KC
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Having said that. A couple of years ago I had to raise the rent on a guy who was in one of my houses. He was paying about $200/month less than I could rent the home for. I hadn't raised his rent in 5 years.
When I finally decided I had to raise his rent I went up $75/month. He hit the roof. He said there was no way in hell he was going to pay that and that I couldn't rent it out for that. I told him I could rent it for $200/month more .... he didn't believe me. He moved out.
One week later I had a new tenant paying $200/month more than he was. Where he moved to to keep his rent level was a bad area and he was robbed within a month.
KC
High prices doesn't preclude one from being robbed. My apartment has been broken into and cleaned out, and I've had a vehicle stolen from the parking lot, and I'm paying at least $200 more than I was for the same space in 2005.
I knew I should have taken a unit on the 2nd floor. Burglars are lazy.
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High prices doesn't preclude one from being robbed. My apartment has been broken into and cleaned out, and I've had a vehicle stolen from the parking lot, and I'm paying at least $200 more than I was for the same space in 2005.
I knew I should have taken a unit on the 2nd floor. Burglars are lazy.
Heh. No they do not. Except my rent wasn't high. He was just getting a very good deal and refused to believe it. He was a great renter and I hated to see him go.
He moved into a 3/2/2 I own (brick on a cul-de-sac) paying $650/month. I now rent that place for $850/month. I was taking his rent to $725. I don't think going up $75.00 over a 5 year period was asking too much especially since my costs had increased by more than that.
KC
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I also am very touchy about the eviction thing right now. I just evicted the first person I've ever had to evict in almost 12 years of doing real estate.
I've asked some to move for non payment or other things and they've all moved because they knew they were wrong. This gal strung me along for months. She knew what she was doing. She left loads and loads of shit in my house. She also left food in BOTH of the refrigerators which spoiled when the electricity was shut off. She damn near ruined my refrigerator, the other one was hers but she left it.
While we were cleaning the house I asked the constable "Since I know where she moved to .... can I deliver her stuff to her?" He said he'd never heard of anyone doing that but he didn't see a legal problem with it.
I took everything I could see that looked like it had 'value' to it to her new place along with one really, REALLY nasty refrigerator.
:-)
Some things just work out.
KC
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I also am very touchy about the eviction thing right now. I just evicted the first person I've ever had to evict in almost 12 years of doing real estate.
I've asked some to move for non payment or other things and they've all moved because they knew they were wrong. This gal strung me along for months. She knew what she was doing.
I ran into a LOT of that when I lived in North Carolina. I lived in a lot of shared/boarding housing there, mostly by North Carolina State. Generally, a landlord has to give a 30-day notice for an eviction, but these people had stopped paying rent weeks and months before. Some people would stay as long as six months before the sheriff showed up to send them on their way. Some were decent enough to move out on their own peaceably. I think the county clerk knew my landlord by sight.
$850 for a 3br is downright cheap, I don't care where you are.
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Heh. No they do not. Except my rent wasn't high. He was just getting a very good deal and refused to believe it. He was a great renter and I hated to see him go.
He moved into a 3/2/2 I own (brick on a cul-de-sac) paying $650/month. I now rent that place for $850/month. I was taking his rent to $725. I don't think going up $75.00 over a 5 year period was asking too much especially since my costs had increased by more than that.
KC
We're renting out our second home for what it costs to cover the mortgage, taxes, and insurance. We don't have to worry about the mortgage, and they get one hell of a deal on rent. They told us recently to "Don't even think of selling the property." They love it there so much. I have to say, with tenants like that, we won't be selling any time soon.
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I don't suppose any of you folks would happen to have a house on the beach, would you? :wink:
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I helped a tenant out (was a friend actually - retired military family) by charging less than what the mortgage actually was because I knew they couldn't afford it. She had refused to work (teacher - major heavy duty entitlement-minded couple, whatever they could suck off the government they were signing up for it). I told her from the beginning it was temporary and as soon as she went to work, I had to raise the rent. She went back to work, I raised the rent $200, she lost her mind and moved.
Didn't talk to her for about ten years after that.
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We sold that house and God is my witness, I will NEVER be a landlord again. What a total PIA that was.
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Hatchling. You live in California. EMBRACE your homelessness!
1) Get a Post office box whiloe you still have an address, and switch all your mail to that box.
2) Get a refrigerator box from a company and some duct tape.
3) steal a grocery cart for your other possession.
Wala, the DUmmie's dream: FREE RENT. Live near a govt approved food station, and the freebies just roll in.
on top of that, Democrats will PAY you to vote via absentee ballot.
This is an opportunity, not a downer. You will achieve what every DUmmie dreams of. A chance to live on the beach forever!
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I also am very touchy about the eviction thing right now. I just evicted the first person I've ever had to evict in almost 12 years of doing real estate.
I've asked some to move for non payment or other things and they've all moved because they knew they were wrong. This gal strung me along for months. She knew what she was doing. She left loads and loads of shit in my house. She also left food in BOTH of the refrigerators which spoiled when the electricity was shut off. She damn near ruined my refrigerator, the other one was hers but she left it.
While we were cleaning the house I asked the constable "Since I know where she moved to .... can I deliver her stuff to her?" He said he'd never heard of anyone doing that but he didn't see a legal problem with it.
I took everything I could see that looked like it had 'value' to it to her new place along with one really, REALLY nasty refrigerator.
:-)
Some things just work out.
KC
Ugh. In my property management days we had to legally give 3 months before we could start the eviction process. We'd try to work with them when they got a month behind. We weren't heartless bastards, but it was a business, not a charity. The condition of some of the vacated apartments made me physically sick.
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Excuse my ignorance, but remember, I'm isolated way out here under the scorching Sandhills sun, far away from any major (or for that matter, minor) metropolitan area.
I still have 7 years to go on the Section 8 housing list.
There's a waiting list for subsidized housing?
And the primitive's going to sit on her ass for seven years, until she gets it?
I dunno.
We have subsidized housing here too, but there's no waiting list.
Normally, I'd suggest the primitive move to somewhere other than San Diego, but I don't want her coming out here.
It just blows my mind, that someone's willing to sit around on her ass for seven years waiting to improve her housing situation.
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If I ever end up a landlord, I'm charging a double security deposit and demanding references. My daughter had some money from her father's estate, she used it to buy a house (against my advice, because she still can't find a decent job and couldn't afford the utilities and taxes.) She ended up renting it out for a couple years. After losing about $4000 because her last renter just "couldn't pay the whole" $600 every month, she managed to get it sold. She lost $20,000 selling it. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: But at least she didn't lose it to the county for taxes...or to weather damage because she couldn't afford insurance. To me, it's unbelievable how much damage can be done to a house by someone who is already ripping you off on the rent!! And it is a long, costly process to evict, I suppose I should be glad they decided to move before we had to go through all of that. :thatsright:
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Hatchling. You live in California. EMBRACE your homelessness!
1) Get a Post office box whiloe you still have an address, and switch all your mail to that box.
2) Get a refrigerator box from a company and some duct tape.
3) steal a grocery cart for your other possession.
Wala, the DUmmie's dream: FREE RENT. Live near a govt approved food station, and the freebies just roll in.
on top of that, Democrats will PAY you to vote via absentee ballot.
This is an opportunity, not a downer. You will achieve what every DUmmie dreams of. A chance to live on the beach forever!
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I guess nobody ever heard of moving out a bit to lower rent areas, particularly in SD/LA, huh?
Of course, the real estate market in CA is so screwed up and it's so damn difficult to adhere to the plethora of rules, laws, and BS regulations that it drives up the cost of rental units because they're near 100 percent capacity (while homes sit empty).
Last place I rented in Huntington Beach before I bought the house--rent went up $250 in the two years we were there, and had we stayed it would have gone up another $150 more, meaning the RENT on a 2-BR apartment with a "family fun center" (read: noise factory) across the street and the 405 Freeway behind me would have been about $150 less than our mortgage on a 3BR house.
Then again, a lot of that was due to the fact that about six months after we moved in, they went to Section 8 and the place went to shit. Welfare leeches not paying shit, and those few of us who weren't on it were paying the difference.
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Hatchling's a DUmmie, so at least one thing's for sure: it isn't a JOB that's keeping it in SD.
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And it is a long, costly process to evict, I suppose I should be glad they decided to move before we had to go through all of that. :thatsright:
I'm surprised....you're in Kansas.......over here in Missouri, it's a breeze, 30 days and the Sheriff tosses them out. You just need to file in small claims court for an eviction notice (for non payment). Costs $15 to file in this county, and the eviction notice is accompanied by a Court judgement for the past-due rent. Tape the notice to the front door, and just wait until the balance of the thirty days are up. If they aren't gone before that date, a phone call instantly brings the deputy, and the stuff gets placed out in the street.
Further in this state God help them if they give you (intentionally) a bad check......the first one is a misdemeanor, with a stiff fine, but the second (to the same party) is a felony, with 90-days in jail.
Total investment: $15, an hour in court, and a 30-day wait.
doc
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Why is it these jackasses are the "intelligent" ones, the ones we're supposed to listen to, the ones that supposed to run everything, the ones that supposedly have the right politics, when they can't even get their own f'n finances in order? This is EXACTLY why we're in the economic shape we're in today, too many f'n MORONS running the damn country with no semblance of fiscal responsibility.
Hey dipshit, instead of bitching about your lot in life being the fault of someone else on a daily basis, utilize that time to develop a more marketable skill. Retard.
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I'm surprised....you're in Kansas.......over here in Missouri, it's a breeze, 30 days and the Sheriff tosses them out. You just need to file in small claims court for an eviction notice (for non payment). Costs $15 to file in this county, and the eviction notice is accompanied by a Court judgement for the past-due rent. Tape the notice to the front door, and just wait until the balance of the thirty days are up. If they aren't gone before that date, a phone call instantly brings the deputy, and the stuff gets placed out in the street.
Further in this state God help them if they give you (intentionally) a bad check......the first one is a misdemeanor, with a stiff fine, but the second (to the same party) is a felony, with 90-days in jail.
Total investment: $15, an hour in court, and a 30-day wait.
doc
Yep, but in some states, like Wisconsin, it's easier to get rid of a genetic trait than a nonpaying tenant. I'm betting Californistan is more like that.
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Yep, but in some states, like Wisconsin, it's easier to get rid of a genetic trait than a nonpaying tenant. I'm betting Californistan is more like that.
I believe that I read once that New York City is the worst......especially "rent controlled" apartments. People can live in them for years without paying the rent before the legal hurdles for eviction finally grind to a conclusion.
doc
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Why not get a share rental or rent a room from someone? There are ways to deal with this situation without ending up on the street.
Cindie
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Why not get a share rental or rent a room from someone? There are ways to deal with this situation without ending up on the street.
Cindie
That would make sense... but then we are talking about dummies here. They are entitled to cheap housing, doncha know? It's a right!!!!!
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Why not get a share rental or rent a room from someone? There are ways to deal with this situation without ending up on the street.
Cindie
I've done both. It's all about survival. Problem is, DUmbasses think that survival means getting to government to take from others to give to them. I rented a room in Atlanta up in Kennesaw when I first moved there. After about a month, a co-worker and I rented a place near George Busbee Parkway near Kennesaw State. You do what you have to to survive. This concept is lost on DUmmies. They'd rather spend their time bitching about other people.
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You're looking for affordable housing in California? Good luck. Maybe you can move to Nevada.
NO. NO. NO.
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...I still have 7 years to go on the Section 8 housing list.
Let me see if I get this straight.
Government services are supposed to be last-ditch, or-else matters as in "If I don't get Section 8 housing, I'll be homeless."
But you have to wait more than 7 years.
Which means:
* The system has failed as designed
* People are using this housing to avoid paying regular rent, thus taking up scare S8 resources
* Apparently you can live without it for 7+ years
THIS is what DUmbasses demand we preserve without reform?
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Let me see if I get this straight.
Government services are supposed to be last-ditch, or-else matters as in "If I don't get Section 8 housing, I'll be homeless."
But you have to wait more than 7 years.
Which means:
* The system has failed as designed
* People are using this housing to avoid paying regular rent, thus taking up scare S8 resources
* Apparently you can live without it for 7+ years
THIS is what DUmbasses demand we preserve without reform?
Ah, the brilliance of the liberal mind.
40 years ago they rioted to fight the system and implement radical change.
Today, the same unwashed hippies riot to maintain the status quo.
They is ironee, but they do not see it.