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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on July 28, 2011, 05:11:27 PM
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-28-11 05:57 PM
Original message
Here's an idea....
....tax the ****ing rich at 50% for three years; take the money and pay off every student loan in the nation (afterall the wealthy have benefited from a highly educated work force that self-sponsored their education through the ****ing usurious student loan system); set the highest rate for the ****ing upper 5% wealthy (those earning in excess of $600,000 or more) at 45% for the next 10 years; fund education from K - Baccalaureate degrees for everyone (obviously one would need the aptitudes to enter a university system).
This would have several benefits:
1. Anyone with a student loan would immediately have more discretionary income to work with.
2. Trust fund babies would now have to work because with an increase in smarter people comes increased competition to crush the idle wealthy out of existence.
3. Businesses would prosper not only from the discretionary income available to people with no student loans, but also from the wealth of smart people now available to fill jobs that go to H1B visa holders.
4. America, with its ingrained sense of can do coupled with smart people developing smart solutions crushes the economies of China, Russia and India.
Many other benefits of a well educated society. (One that I left off the list, the Republicant party will shrink to the point where you can drown it in ****ing Grover Nordquist's toilet bowl).
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1598966
Just the other day they said that DU was not full of the fringe left who want to confiscate everything. :whatever:
Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-28-11 06:01 PM
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1. YES YES YES and YES. I'd like to know who's against this and what they live off of. nt
Well you could be living off your rich repuke boyfriend. :whatever:
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1. Anyone with a student loan would immediately have more discretionary income to work with.
Good, now they can afford the inflated insurance prices Obama just mandated they purchase even if in perfect health
2. Trust fund babies would now have to work because with an increase in smarter people comes increased competition to crush the idle wealthy out of existence.
Um-m-m...
"Idle" means not moving. If they are idle rich they don't need competition because they aren't competing.
3. Businesses would prosper not only from the discretionary income available to people with no student loans, but also from the wealth of smart people now available to fill jobs that go to H1B visa holders.
How would they pay this suddenly high-value job applicants if you take half their money off the top?
4. America, with its ingrained sense of can do coupled with smart people developing smart solutions crushes the economies of China, Russia and India.
We're all chest-beating, flag-waving jingoists now!
BTW - can-do won't do if the gov't strangles everything under piles of profit-stealing and regulation
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And it'd be easier to ****ing take them seriously if they didn't swear so god-damn much. :thatsright:
Really though do they expect to be taken seriously? Never mind I know the answer.
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And it'd be easier to ****ing take them seriously if they didn't swear so god-damn much. :thatsright:
Really though do they expect to be taken seriously? Never mind I know the answer.
No they don't. That is why they tombstone anyone that might register to debate their ideas. You can not win a debate when you only argue with people that already agree with you. DUmmies have an open invitation to register here and convince us with FACTS that their way is better.
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So who's going to tell the DUmmy that the top 5% isn't $600,000+, but about $150,000?
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That would be fine untill all the rich stopped giving money to colleges to use as grants.
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Something tells me DUmmy Aviation Pro borrowed $30K a year for a BA in sociology from a private college.
I heard a woman on NPR today whining about not getting a job after earning am MA in womyn's studies.
And Sarah Imaboobi could be living off her rich repuke former boyfriend if she were a little better in the sack.
That shortcoming has always prevented her from keeping a boyfriend. She couldn't even get laid when she lived in Europe.
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I have to agree with GOBUCKS, but in a different way. I'm getting the stong inclination that a majority of the primitives have stuffed all their eggs into the "entitlement" basket, and any reduction in it will put them further into the poor house. I can see why they're in a panic, and it has nothing to do with their concern for others (it never does), but they're seeing the potential reduction of their free ride, and they have no Plan B.
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This guy was smoking crack when he posted this...had to be. That's not an idea, he was delusional and hallucinating. :mental:
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That would be fine untill all the rich stopped giving money to colleges to use as grants.
I don't think his numbers even work. Raising the top marginal rate would generate some additional revenue for about a year, until everyone in it followed Buffet's behavior behind his BS talking point about his secretary and moved all their income over the threshold out of direct wages and into options for long-term capital gains or other ways of avoiding it. Then his move of funding K-16 education federally (After paying off all existing student loans) would reap a whirlwind of debt.
There's no way his plan would generate enough revenue to accomplish anything beyond paying off some percentage of existing student loans in the first year, after that it would basically just become a special tax on lottery winners who go for the lump-sum payout. That wouldn't generate enough revenue to even pay for Obobo's monthly vacations.
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Access to higher education has never been the problem, DUmbasses. Anyone that wants to attend college, if they have the grades, can. There are loans, grants, scholarships, part-time work, and not everyone needs to go to f'n Harvard, MIT, etc. A university like Augusta State is a little over 2000 dollars per semester, and they have degrees all the way to PhD. I'm certain there are universities all over the nation like that.
These people are dumb as a box of rocks.
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The idea is not generating a great deal of buzz, besides Imaboobi saying YES YES YES! In fact, he got a smackdown from a noob:
bainz (165 posts) Thu Jul-28-11 06:18 PM
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2. You are fooling yourself, if not a few others.
Edited on Thu Jul-28-11 06:21 PM by bainz
1. Anyone with a student loan would immediately have more discretionary income to work with.
-why borrow money for something that wont pay back? And, in my experience (while it may be anecdotal), 3DOs, TV's and beer where purchased with student loan money.
2. Trust fund babies would now have to work because with an increase in smarter people comes increased competition to crush the idle wealthy out of existence.
-why pay for the "sins" of your father?
3. Businesses would prosper not only from the discretionary income available to people with no student loans, but also from the wealth of smart people now available to fill jobs that go to H1B visa holders.
-define "smart." I know of businesses with "smart" people working there who don't need a degree that are run by "smart" people who may be lucky enough to have a GED from the 70's.
4. America, with its ingrained sense of can do coupled with smart people developing smart solutions crushes the economies of China, Russia and India.
-if you think America has a "can do" attitude, you might want to talk to your fellow American.
You seem, to me, to confuse the economy with "smarts."
The only smart people I know . . . sweat.