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Title: New polls: Obama’s off base
Post by: formerlurker on July 27, 2011, 05:46:06 AM
New polls: Obama’s off base
Support waning, even among liberal backers

By Chris Cassidy, Hillary Chabot and Ira Kantor
Wednesday, July 27, 2011

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Even here in bluest Massachusetts, some of President Obama’s stalwarts say their support for the liberal darling is slipping — as a new poll suggests the numbers are plummeting in the president’s base and a call has emerged from the left for a primary challenge.

“Our expectations were high, and the disappointment started happening early and often,” said state Rep. Denise Provost (D-Somerville), a big backer in 2008, now bothered by Obama’s snub to Harvard professor Elizabeth Warren and his extension of tax breaks.

“He needs to stop spending money on the war and sending our youth overseas, and stop spending our money to kill other people,” said Mel King, a progressive community activist and former Boston mayoral candidate, who said he has become disillusioned by Obama’s decision to continue the war in Afghanistan. “That’s one issue that I think he really needs to step up on.”

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/2011_0727new_polls_obamas_off_base_support_waning_even_among_liberal_backers/srvc=home&position=4


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Title: Re: New polls: Obama’s off base
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on July 27, 2011, 08:59:31 AM
Unfortunately, the thrust of that is that the support is waning because he's not enough like Hugo Chavez to satisfy them, not because they suddenly had a transformational moment of lucid thought.
Title: Re: New polls: Obama’s off base
Post by: dandi on July 27, 2011, 09:48:02 AM
Somebody needs to tell little barry that if you are going to present yourself as a saviour, you will end up being crucified.
Title: Re: New polls: Obama’s off base
Post by: Traveshamockery on July 27, 2011, 11:32:09 AM
But they will all still vote for him in 2012. 

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Title: Re: New polls: Obama’s off base
Post by: docstew on July 27, 2011, 07:21:29 PM
Unfortunately, the thrust of that is that the support is waning because he's not enough like Hugo Chavez to satisfy them, not because they suddenly had a transformational moment of lucid thought.

I don't care, if it gets them to stay home on Nov 6, 2012
Title: Re: New polls: Obama’s off base
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on July 28, 2011, 09:07:40 AM
I don't care, if it gets them to stay home on Nov 6, 2012

I think traveshamockery is correct on that one.
Title: Re: New polls: Obama’s off base
Post by: Rebel on July 28, 2011, 09:10:37 AM
I think traveshamockery is correct on that one.

Those people that want him to be more like Hugo are in the minority. Only 19% identify themselves as liberal. All presidential elections are won or lost on the independent vote. ...and the independents have fled from his side. His base, alone, was never going to get him reelected anyway.  
Title: Re: New polls: Obama’s off base
Post by: Right_Is_Right on July 28, 2011, 10:11:40 AM
If there is anything Barry likes more than liberalism it is his self-absorbed lust for power and adulation and love for himself. Of course he is also incompetent, clueless and a danger to the country. The lefties are just now starting to figure that out.
Title: Re: New polls: Obama’s off base
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on July 28, 2011, 10:36:49 AM
Those people that want him to be more like Hugo are in the minority. Only 19% identify themselves as liberal. All presidential elections are won or lost on the independent vote. ...and the independents have fled from his side. His base, alone, was never going to get him reelected anyway.  

True.  I was just saying I think his base will still turn out for him, not as positive and enthusiastically as they did before by any stretch.  Certainly the enthusiasm gap will drive down their turnout, but still a lot of them will still show and vote for him no matter what they say now out of desperation, because by their skewed reckoning, seeing any Republican elected in place of the current somewhat-impure Commie is tantamount to the end of civilization. 
Title: Re: New polls: Obama’s off base
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on July 28, 2011, 03:22:51 PM
True.  I was just saying I think his base will still turn out for him, not as positive and enthusiastically as they did before by any stretch.  Certainly the enthusiasm gap will drive down their turnout, but still a lot of them will still show and vote for him no matter what they say now out of desperation, because by their skewed reckoning, seeing any Republican elected in place of the current somewhat-impure Commie is tantamount to the end of civilization.

I think of all the "crimes" Bush was guilty of: slaughtering civilians by the millions, illegal wars, resource imperialism, fixed contracts, bogus intel, extra-judicial killings, wiretaps, renditions, indefinite detentions, etc etc etc became Obama's when Obama continued and expanded those policies.

The left howled in protest over that fact but if they vote for him again--albeit less enthusiastically--they become just as complicit.
Title: Re: New polls: Obama’s off base
Post by: Rebel on July 28, 2011, 03:33:27 PM
I think of all the "crimes" Bush was guilty of: slaughtering civilians by the millions, illegal wars, resource imperialism, fixed contracts, bogus intel, extra-judicial killings, wiretaps, renditions, indefinite detentions, etc etc etc became Obama's when Obama continued and expanded those policies.

The left howled in protest over that fact but if they vote for him again--albeit less enthusiastically--they become just as complicit.

You're assuming they were being honest in their faux outrage and have some semblance of integrity.
Title: Re: New polls: Obama’s off base
Post by: Lacarnut on July 29, 2011, 03:48:17 AM
But they will all still vote for him in 2012. 

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Very true. Lefties will vote for Obama and he will carry the state of MA.