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Title: Price of gold, silver, and copper?
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 26, 2011, 04:42:05 PM
What were Gold, Silver and Copper selling for as of June 1, 2011?

Got a site with that info?

My googling leaves a lot to be desired.
Title: Re: Price of gold, silver, and copper?
Post by: Chris_ on July 26, 2011, 04:47:26 PM
Gold: $1539.40
http://www.kitco.com/charts/historicalgold.html

Silver: $37.03
http://www.kitco.com/charts/historicalsilver.html
Title: Re: Price of gold, silver, and copper?
Post by: thundley4 on July 26, 2011, 06:13:19 PM
Interesting. Gold was under $900 when Obama took office and now it's over $1600.  I wonder if lead has followed a similar trend.  :tongue:
Title: Re: Price of gold, silver, and copper?
Post by: vesta111 on July 27, 2011, 05:36:57 AM
Interesting. Gold was under $900 when Obama took office and now it's over $1600.  I wonder if lead has followed a similar trend.  :tongue:

Is this pure OZ.???????

Question here.    I have some family items that are Sterling silver, the stuff that turns black if not polished.  Is this stuff worth anything on the market or to only a collector???

Flee markets are fun, to find the sterling stuff, old black cups and pots, flat wear and trays that look like they have been in a fire and worthless.  -----Then there are the weird knickknacks made of Pig Iron,  lots to learn here---HELP.       

Title: Re: Price of gold, silver, and copper?
Post by: zeitgeist on July 27, 2011, 05:49:21 AM
Is this pure OZ.???????

Question here.    I have some family items that are Sterling silver, the stuff that turns black if not polished.  Is this stuff worth anything on the market or to only a collector???

Flee markets are fun, to find the sterling stuff, old black cups and pots, flat wear and trays that look like they have been in a fire and worthless.  -----Then there are the weird knickknacks made of Pig Iron,  lots to learn here---HELP.       



A lot of it was actually silver plate so it is not worth much for its silver content but may be worth more for its sentimental value.  I remember back during the age of malaise, when the Hunt brothers put a move on silver, watching a couple sweet old granny types selling off a silver tea service.  The buyer asked them "are you sure you want to do this"?  they nodded yes, he then took a mallet and bashed it to knock out the plaster of Paris base and weighed it to audible sobs from the two old dears.  They thought it was going to be worth a fortune but barley bought a couple extra bags of Friskies. :hammer:
And a question for you:  What was the marking on the cheap Japanese toys produced just after the war?  It became synonymous with junk ( I am thinking mostly the white metal crap that use to break after a few days of use).
Title: Re: Price of gold, silver, and copper?
Post by: vesta111 on July 27, 2011, 07:45:28 AM
A lot of it was actually silver plate so it is not worth much for its silver content but may be worth more for its sentimental value.  I remember back during the age of malaise, when the Hunt brothers put a move on silver, watching a couple sweet old granny types selling off a silver tea service.  The buyer asked them "are you sure you want to do this"?  they nodded yes, he then took a mallet and bashed it to knock out the plaster of Paris base and weighed it to audible sobs from the two old dears.  They thought it was going to be worth a fortune but barley bought a couple extra bags of Friskies. :hammer:
And a question for you:  What was the marking on the cheap Japanese toys produced just after the war?  It became synonymous with junk ( I am thinking mostly the white metal crap that use to break after a few days of use).

I do know that the Japanese stuff made before the war is valuable, I bought a full 12 place serving of dinner ware for $5.00 at a yard sale in the early 1970 and my Mother went nuts of the  value. She confiscated it and is holding it for me as part of her estate.

Toys, well I do know that some of the metal toy shoulders made after the WW1 are valuable, also metal coin banks.--------

Dolls with heads arms and legs of ceramics in any condition are pricey.  First time Barbie Dolls and 1950 Mickey Mouse clocks or coin banks.   

Today most anything Asian is out of sight for value-------Mother has a few bone flee catchers that are Asian, the people wore them in their clothing back in the 1800------She took them to the Peabody Museum to figure out what these things were.    She was hounded for months to donate them-----sorry, into a safety deposit box.

Yankees who had ancestors sail the seas have trunks of STUFF in cellars and attics that are just there until old time property has to be sold, some of this stuff is so old no one knows what the hell it is, if you find something odd, buy it and research it, never know when buying some old picture in a frame will have a valuable painting behind it.

The Hunt family destroyed silver in one fell swoop, I remember the bastards and they managed to take down half their family in that mess.


 







Title: Re: Price of gold, silver, and copper?
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 27, 2011, 07:52:32 AM
Well what do you know. If I had bought silver this year at it's low and sold it at it's high, I could have increased my net cash worth about 75%....couldda, shouldda, wouldda..... :rotf:
Title: Re: Price of gold, silver, and copper?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on July 27, 2011, 08:44:58 AM
Vesta, Sterling is 92.5% silver, and if it's not just plated, it will be marked "Sterling" and have a trademark or hallmark on the back (A registered mark is a legal requirement for anyone marking or labeling pieces as having any precious metal).  Precious metal is sold by the Troy ounce and pound, and a Troy ounce is about 10% more than what you would commonly call an ounce (Which is an "Avoirdupois" or 'avdp' ounce).  There are only 12 Troy ounces per Troy pound, though, so a Troy pound is lighter than a common avdp pound.

Even if it's marked Sterling, just keep it.  Precious metal buyers are the biggest pirates on the planet, Somali teenagers come to them for lessons.  You will be lucky to get 1/3 of its silver value from almost any of them, unless you are totally destitute don't do it.
Title: Re: Price of gold, silver, and copper?
Post by: vesta111 on July 27, 2011, 09:23:06 AM
Vesta, Sterling is 92.5% silver, and if it's not just plated, it will be marked "Sterling" and have a trademark or hallmark on the back (A registered mark is a legal requirement for anyone marking or labeling pieces as having any precious metal).  Precious metal is sold by the Troy ounce and pound, and a Troy ounce is about 10% more than what you would commonly call an ounce (Which is an "Avoirdupois" or 'avdp' ounce).  There are only 12 Troy ounces per Troy pound, though, so a Troy pound is lighter than a common avdp pound.

Even if it's marked Sterling, just keep it.  Precious metal buyers are the biggest pirates on the planet, Somali teenagers come to them for lessons.  You will be lucky to get 1/3 of its silver value from almost any of them, unless you are totally destitute don't do it.

Interesting Mr. Tanker as the 401K plan about 2 years before I retired put out a notification on the information Bord at work that they were now investing in Precious Metals.

When I became disabled I had no choice but to cash in my 401 and take the money Hit.  Hubby however has seen a gain in his 401k above what we ever expected. 

Is this a sign of the times that Precious Metal is going to be the the money of the future???

All these ads to buy gold or silver, I see none to buy Platinum or other scarce Metals.

Few in my circle invest in diamonds or emeralds, seems the stones are out and the Metal is in.

Copper has a good rate that causes people to steal pipes and wiring from where ever they can find it untended.

BTW--- where did all the gold in Fort Knox go??????
 

Title: Re: Price of gold, silver, and copper?
Post by: zeitgeist on July 27, 2011, 07:36:08 PM
Interesting Mr. Tanker as the 401K plan about 2 years before I retired put out a notification on the information Bord at work that they were now investing in Precious Metals.

When I became disabled I had no choice but to cash in my 401 and take the money Hit.  Hubby however has seen a gain in his 401k above what we ever expected. 

Is this a sign of the times that Precious Metal is going to be the the money of the future???

All these ads to buy gold or silver, I see none to buy Platinum or other scarce Metals.

Few in my circle invest in diamonds or emeralds, seems the stones are out and the Metal is in.

Copper has a good rate that causes people to steal pipes and wiring from where ever they can find it untended.

BTW--- where did all the gold in Fort Knox go??????
 



Now Vesta, you don't mean to impugn that your government would lie to you about the value of gold in Ft. Knox do you?  BTW what makes you think it is not there.  And just who is buried in Grants tomb?
Title: Re: Price of gold, silver, and copper?
Post by: vesta111 on July 28, 2011, 06:03:03 AM
Now Vesta, you don't mean to impugn that your government would lie to you about the value of gold in Ft. Knox do you?  BTW what makes you think it is not there.  And just who is buried in Grants tomb?

Funny you should ask about our government lying to us.     :argh:

Grants tomb is Not empty, I heard if from relivable sources that it is the resting place of the Alians captured and brought to Area 51 way back when. Who would look for their body's there???? I heard this from some temp worker that swore his father working on the base at that time helped transport the carcasses of the Alians to Grants tomb. ::) ::)

But then I wonder if John Wilkes Booth did die in a barn fire as we were told.   

Back at you, who was buried in the Grand Pyramid in Egypt and why no hieroglyphics's or was the Pyramid a tomb at all??

Say I heard that funny little fella Hiawas was FIRED from his job for being too close to the old leaders before the revolt.-----------Darn I will miss Him as he reminded me of an old boss I had.