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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: dandi on July 26, 2011, 12:56:54 PM
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Gingrich regrets 2008 climate ad with Pelosi
By Michael O'Brien - 07/26/11 08:10 AM ET
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) said Tuesday that he regrets making a commercial with then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on the need to address climate change.
Gingrich, who partnered with Pelosi while she was Speaker for the 2008 ad, said the spot was "misconstrued," and for that reason, he wouldn't do it again.
"I was trying to make a point that we shouldn't be afraid to debate the left, even on the environment," Gingrich said on WGIR radio of the 30-second television commercial. "Obviously it was misconstrued, and it's probably one of those things I wouldn't do again."
That commercial has caused some difficulties for Gingrich in the Republican presidential primary. Pelosi is one of the most polarizing figures for primary voters, and the appearance of wanting to partner with such a political bogeyman has arguably hurt Gingrich with GOP voters.
Gingrich said in January that he "meant exactly what [he] said in that commercial," which was produced by the Alliance for Climate Protection, a nonprofit organization founded by former Vice President Al Gore (D). In the ad, Gingrich makes no endorsement of any policy solution, but says the "country must take action to address climate change."
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/173463-gingrich-says-he-regrets-2008-climate-ad-with-pelosi
Newt lost me after he caved to Clinton in 95. Anybody that has their enemy on the ropes, quits, then plays nice with them, and makes a habit of sucking up to them is not the brightest bulb in the pack.
As far as his point being "misconstrued", well, I guess I'll just have to live with the knowledge that I'm too stupid to "get it" and I probably don't deserve his "leadership".
:whatever:
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Actions have consequences, Newt. You can't take that shit back. Just get off the stage, nobody's buying tickets.
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Actions have consequences, Newt. You can't take that shit back. Just get off the stage, nobody's buying tickets.
:yeahthat:
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Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out, Newt. Or maybe let hit you and give you a concussion, since that's where your brain is.
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Gingrich Regrets 2008 Climate Ad With Pelosi
It was the Hustler spread they did together that I found most disturbing.
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It was the Hustler spread they did together that I found most disturbing.
:puke:
For the love of God, man! I am trying to keep my lunch down!
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Too late Newt.
You made that bed. Now lay in it.
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It was the Hustler spread they did together that I found most disturbing.
You are SO gonna burn in hell for that one.
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You are SO gonna burn in hell for that one.
Only that one?
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Too late asshat, maybe John Asshat Kerry will hire you as his new spokesperson.
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Too late asshat, maybe John Asshat Kerry will hire you as his new spokesperson.
He could go to work for Al Gore.
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Newt lost me after he caved to Clinton in 95. Anybody that has their enemy on the ropes, quits, then plays nice with them, and makes a habit of sucking up to them is not the brightest bulb in the pack.
Anyone who thinks that he is caving on his own and playing nice is also not the brightest bulb. No offense, and I don't support Gingrich, but to think they weren't paid heavily for that is naive.
Unless we get term limits throughout congress, we will always have a corrupt government. Heck, Boehner is being paid off right now. Our government is no longer ran by "the people" it's ran by "THE PEOPLE".
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"I was trying to make a point that we shouldn't be afraid to debate the left, even on the environment," Gingrich said on WGIR radio of the 30-second television commercial. "Obviously it was misconstrued, and it's probably one of those things I wouldn't do again."
Translation: I'm sorry that you're offended.
This is where he lost me. Manmade global warming is a big fat hoax. It was a hoax back in the 70s when global warming was going to cause the next ice, and it's a hoax now. And for Newt to get sucked into it and end up making an ad with Pelosi of all people is just insane. He can denounce this ad all he wants, but if he continues to be duped by the environmentalist kooks, he might as well just drop out now.
Oh, and it certainly didn't help when he said, "The era of Reagan is over".
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Unless we get term limits throughout congress, we will always have a corrupt government. Heck, Boehner is being paid off right now. Our government is no longer ran by "the people" it's ran by "THE PEOPLE".
The problem with getting term limits is the people that will be voting for term limits are the ones that will be affected by term limits.
I'm ALL for term limits; I just don't think we have enough politicians with balls to try it. If it affects you, they'll screw you over in a heart beat. If it affects them and their power, that's a different story. It's why I have such disdain for "politicians" but utmost respect for "statesmen". ....and I can only think of a few right now. Nikki Haley, IMO, is a perfect example.
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Anyone who thinks that he is caving on his own and playing nice is also not the brightest bulb. No offense, and I don't support Gingrich, but to think they weren't paid heavily for that is naive.
Link?
Heck, Boehner is being paid off right now.
Link?
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Heck, Boehner is being paid off right now. Our government is no longer ran by "the people" it's ran by "THE PEOPLE".
Some proof, please.
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The problem with you conservatives is that you always want proof.
/sarc
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Yeah, I know, Rich. But we do need to separate the bullshit from the diarrhea spewed by idiot libs. Oops - sorry, I repeated myself again.
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Some proof, please.
Here is a video of him admitting to taking tobacco bribes. Like I've said before, I live in his district and have been voting for him for 20yrs. The sad fact is, he's been bought. He's a prime example of why we need term limits in congress. Now also notice in this video that the two speaking out against him are also republicans. Actually one is the great NFL wide reciever Steve Largent. But, every time I say anything about conservatives doing something wrong, I am accused of being a liberal. I am far from that. Actually, I am an independant conservative tea partier. So, here's proof and if you think he has suddenly stopped taking bribes, then you are kidding yourselves.
http://youtu.be/MAC2xeT2yOg
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Whether it's direct bribes, campaign donations, political favors, or whatever, that shit needs to stop. They need term limits so they can take their asses back to their districts and live with the consequences of their votes. When the nation was founded, a lot of this shit wouldn't happen because the politicians had their own land, wealth, etc. they had to protect. These days the assholes go to D.C. for the sole PURPOSE of enriching themselves and they've put measures in place to shield them from most of the shit that affects the American people. Do they pay SS? Don't they have their own retirement that, upon serving ONLY 2 terms, they get to collect on? Aren't they protected from insider trading laws as seen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G96TY5JsV-s&feature=player_embedded)? These assholes went from "representative" to nobles while we, the plebes, are stuck as f'n serfs. This shit needs to end.
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Did you get to ride Pelosi-Force One too Newt?
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Whether it's direct bribes, campaign donations, political favors, or whatever, that shit needs to stop. They need term limits so they can take their asses back to their districts and live with the consequences of their votes. When the nation was founded, a lot of this shit wouldn't happen because the politicians had their own land, wealth, etc. they had to protect. These days the assholes go to D.C. for the sole PURPOSE of enriching themselves and they've put measures in place to shield them from most of the shit that affects the American people. Do they pay SS? Don't they have their own retirement that, upon serving ONLY 2 terms, they get to collect on? Aren't they protected from insider trading laws as seen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G96TY5JsV-s&feature=player_embedded)? These assholes went from "representative" to nobles while we, the plebes, are stuck as f'n serfs. This shit needs to end.
Well said.
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Here is a video of him admitting to taking tobacco bribes. Like I've said before, I live in his district and have been voting for him for 20yrs. The sad fact is, he's been bought.
http://youtu.be/MAC2xeT2yOg
Okay, you made a claim that Newt Gingrich was bribed to fold like an old t shirt on laundry day back in 1995.
I want proof.
You also said that Speaker Boehner is being paid to cave in on the debt ceiling deal.
Again, I want proof.
Posting a video about taking tobacco money is nice, but I want something directly related to him being paid off to throw the vote on the debt ceiling.
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Okay, you made a claim that Newt Gingrich was bribed to fold like an old t shirt on laundry day back in 1995.
I want proof.
You also said that Speaker Boehner is being paid to cave in on the debt ceiling deal.
Again, I want proof.
Posting a video about taking tobacco money is nice, but I want something directly related to him being paid off to throw the vote on the debt ceiling.
I admit that I don't have it. I also am not naive enough to think that he would suddenly stop taking bribes. He just quit doing it on the house floor. Look, I am not a conspiracy guy. But I am not dumb either. You can believe what you want. But most, if not all, tea partiers are not supporting Boehners debt plan. He went from Cut, cap and balance to a plan that has no cuts in it but raises the debt ceiling. The so-called cuts in his plan are spread through ten years. They are supposed to pass a budget every year, which means that they don't have to stick with the plan from the previous year. The blank check to Obama happens right now. Tell me why he would do this. The proof is in front of your face. Boehner is a sell out. But your lack of effort to find out for yourself leads me to believe that you are a sheep to the republican party. No one believed me about Agenda 21, but once I proved it over and over, I also didn't get a thank you. I am tired of doing the research for you. I truly hope you stay conservative, but I also hope you get your head out of the sand. Lifetime politicians are bought, period.
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I admit that I don't have it.
So, you were talking out of your ass, got it, that's pretty much what I figured.
I also am not naive enough to think that he would suddenly stop taking bribes. He just quit doing it on the house floor.
Yet, you can't prove that he is being bribed to tank the debt ceiling vote. We already have one group in this country that relies on assumptions to guide them and it isn't the TEA Party.
Look, I am not a conspiracy guy.
Maybe you should consider it, you seem to have a good head start.
You can believe what you want.
I will believe what can be verified either through source documentation or my own personal experience, thank you. Anything else needs to be presented.
He went from Cut, cap and balance to a plan that has no cuts in it but raises the debt ceiling.
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has released its analysis of the revised Budget Control Act of 2011 today, and CBO’s analysis confirms that the spending cuts are greater than the debt hike – affirming that the House GOP bill meets the critical test House Republicans have said they will insist upon for any bill to raise the nation’s debt ceiling. Specifically, the CBO analysis confirms the Republican plan will:
* Cut and cap spending by $917 billion over 10 years – that’s more than the $900 billion debt hike;
* Cut $22 billion in spending for FY2012 and hold spending below FY2010 levels until FY2016;
* Continue reducing discretionary spending each year compared to President Obama’s budget (by $96 billion in 2012, $118 billion in 2013, $115 billion in 2014, $117 billion in 2015, and so on); and
* Require Congress to draft proposals that produce reductions of at least $1.8 trillion that help protect programs like Medicare and Social Security from bankruptcy.
http://www.speaker.gov/blog/
The proof is in front of your face. Boehner is a sell out.
No legislation has been ratified nor signed into law. As much as I may disagree with the Speaker, bless his cry-baby heart, I have to hand it to him for standing pretty damned tough. This legislation isn't everything at once but it's a damned good start. We didn't get here in one stroke of the pen, we won't get back with one.
Your opinion notwithstanding...
But your lack of effort to find out for yourself leads me to believe that you are a sheep to the republican party... I am tired of doing the research for you.
I asked you to back up your bullshit and you want to lecture me about lack of effort? Really?
You talk out of your ass more often than not, "unbiased", and get schooled (http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,61644.msg712803/highlight,swim+team.html#msg712803) quite a bit around here (http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,62395.msg721147.html#msg721147). Do you think you have earned any credibility?
I truly hope you stay conservative, but I also hope you get your head out of the sand.
Thank you so much for your concern, truly. I'll manage to carry on, somehow. :whatever:
Lifetime politicians are bought, period.
The matter of "term limits" are best left to the people who hire and fire politicians (ie district voters). I am not now, nor will I ever be, in favor of putting the responsibility of legislating "term limits" in the hands of the very people that are being limited. That would be beyond stupid.
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Go ahead and believe what you believe. I don't care about my credibility here anymore because people like you blow stuff off and keep your head in the sand. By admitting I didn't have proof of him being bought off "this time" only means that it hasn't come out yet. It will. When it does, you will forget what I said or choose not to come back to it. That's okay.
As far as my ass handed to me, I have admitted every time when I was proven wrong. Other times it was just an opinion. You're still okay with opinions in America, right?
Oh, and never mind pulling your head out of the sand. Forget that. The government will do it for you. I thank you in advance for my future lack of freedom.
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Oh, and never mind pulling your head out of the sand. Forget that. The government will do it for you. I thank you in advance for my future lack of freedom.
Your heart's in the right place, but you're way too excitable for your own good. Dial it back a bit, and start using your BS filter on the sources you're inclined to agree with as well as the ones you doubt, and you'll be a much happier, well-rounded man.
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Go ahead and believe what you believe. I don't care about my credibility here anymore because people like you blow stuff off and keep your head in the sand.
Asking for proof and not just taking you at your word is keeping my "head in the sand"? Uh, okay....
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Whatever you say....
By admitting I didn't have proof of him being bought off "this time" only means that it hasn't come out yet. It will. When it does, you will forget what I said or choose not to come back to it. That's okay.
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As far as my ass handed to me, I have admitted every time when I was proven wrong. Other times it was just an opinion. You're still okay with opinions in America, right?
Spent 22 years of my life and a ton of permanent damage to my body making sure you had the freedom of your opinions and many, many other things, "unbiased".
Oh, and never mind pulling your head out of the sand. Forget that. The government will do it for you. I thank you in advance for my future lack of freedom.
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You're breaking my heart, sugar. What a crusher of a comeback.... :whatever:
Don't worry, "unbiased", the second generation to come out of my household is already standing the line and covering your ass.
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No proof of Boehner taking bribes. Is there any truth to anything you post?
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No proof of Boehner taking bribes. Is there any truth to anything you post?
Did you watch the video of him admitting to taking bribes?
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Gingrich regrets 2008 climate ad with Pelosi
By Michael O'Brien - 07/26/11 08:10 AM ET
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) said Tuesday that he regrets making a commercial with then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on the need to address climate change.
Gingrich, who partnered with Pelosi while she was Speaker for the 2008 ad, said the spot was "misconstrued," and for that reason, he wouldn't do it again.
"I was trying to make a point that we shouldn't be afraid to debate the left, even on the environment," Gingrich said on WGIR radio of the 30-second television commercial. "Obviously it was misconstrued, and it's probably one of those things I wouldn't do again."
That commercial has caused some difficulties for Gingrich in the Republican presidential primary. Pelosi is one of the most polarizing figures for primary voters, and the appearance of wanting to partner with such a political bogeyman has arguably hurt Gingrich with GOP voters.
Gingrich said in January that he "meant exactly what [he] said in that commercial," which was produced by the Alliance for Climate Protection, a nonprofit organization founded by former Vice President Al Gore (D). In the ad, Gingrich makes no endorsement of any policy solution, but says the "country must take action to address climate change."
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/173463-gingrich-says-he-regrets-2008-climate-ad-with-pelosi
Newt lost me after he caved to Clinton in 95. Anybody that has their enemy on the ropes, quits, then plays nice with them, and makes a habit of sucking up to them is not the brightest bulb in the pack.
As far as his point being "misconstrued", well, I guess I'll just have to live with the knowledge that I'm too stupid to "get it" and I probably don't deserve his "leadership".
:whatever:
So basically she turned him into a Newt...and he didn't get better
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Your heart's in the right place, but you're way too excitable for your own good. Dial it back a bit, and start using your BS filter on the sources you're inclined to agree with as well as the ones you doubt, and you'll be a much happier, well-rounded man.
Thanks for the advice. But I don't think I am that excitable. I have been repeatedly called names. I have shown proof of Boehner, Rex 84, Agenda 21....but I am called a conspiracy theorist. I admit that I do get frustrated when people have evidence in front of them but refuse to look at it.
Wasp, I had a three paragraph response to your last post, but I guess I did something wrong because it isn't here anymore. The last paragraph was thanking you for your service.
None of this is personal to me. People can believe what they want. I just provided proven facts and was called names. I was asked to provide "more" info when someone didn't believe the first set of facts. I did that, too. Sorry if reality scares people.
As far as my own happiness goes, no need to worry. I am as happy as a guy could be. I am scared of our country's future because of apathy, but other than that I am good.
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Did you watch the video of him admitting to taking bribes?
Since this thread is regarding climate change, I guess it was silly of me to expect you to support your statement re: Boehner taking bribes.
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Since this thread is regarding climate change, I guess it was silly of me to expect you to support your statement re: Boehner taking bribes.
This thread has been off climate change for a loooong time and you know it. I am guessing you watched the video, didn't like what you saw and are chosing to believe that he would take a bribe once, but never again. Laughable, but hey, believe what you will.
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So basically she turned him into a Newt...and he didn't get better
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I like that one!
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Whether it's direct bribes, campaign donations, political favors, or whatever, that shit needs to stop. They need term limits so they can take their asses back to their districts and live with the consequences of their votes. When the nation was founded, a lot of this shit wouldn't happen because the politicians had their own land, wealth, etc. they had to protect. These days the assholes go to D.C. for the sole PURPOSE of enriching themselves and they've put measures in place to shield them from most of the shit that affects the American people. Do they pay SS? Don't they have their own retirement that, upon serving ONLY 2 terms, they get to collect on? Aren't they protected from insider trading laws as seen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G96TY5JsV-s&feature=player_embedded)? These assholes went from "representative" to nobles while we, the plebes, are stuck as f'n serfs. This shit needs to end.
Ain't that just the damn truth of it!
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This thread has been off climate change for a loooong time and you know it. I am guessing you watched the video, didn't like what you saw and are chosing to believe that he would take a bribe once, but never again. Laughable, but hey, believe what you will.
Aw, shuddup, poser.
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Go to the blaze and look what's on the front page. It's about Agenda 21! You heard it from me first, but I a just a conspiracy theorist, right?
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You heard it from me first, but I'm just a conspiracy theorist, right?
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