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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: JakeStyle on July 25, 2011, 02:32:53 PM
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New campfire, not much action yet.
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jul-25-11 03:10 PM
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on the debt ceiling and where we are as a nation
first off, there is an aspect of racism here... after all this is a black man and that is insulting.
But... there is more to this. There is this problem with the RW in this country that believes our center right democratic party (where Rockefeller republicans went to by the way) is not legitimate. Yes, there is some to skin color but they did the same to Clinton and to a very small extent to Carter.
To these Radicals, let's use the correct language, any... read this again, ANY democrat in a position of elected political power is not legitimate. In fact. what you are seeing is the idea that anybody but themselves should not be elected... and the subtext is... democracy is the problem.
Combine this with a few religious fanatics...
Yes, I suspect we will default, this is about destroying the legitimacy of a party, a WHOLE party, they do not recognize has any rights.
The last time we were here the calendar read 1859... that should send shivers down anybody's back. If we went into a shooting civil war, and at this pont it is not illogical or unexpected to anybody who understands cycles... we are talking of at least 20 million dead... not out of the realm of possibility to speak of 50 to a 100 million dead. That is what civil wars look like, But what you are seeing in DC is not disaster capitalism... it is actually that much more dangerous.
And to anybody going (on either side) bring it on... read the numbers of casualties I posted. Yes, that means one of your relatives will die.
Trends and patterns are out, cycles are in.
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jul-25-11 03:26 PM
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2. Alas you are trying to have a conversation with
people who are in the depth of ideological purity... where liberals should not exist.
In 1859 the conversation was about the right of states to allow or not allow slavery.
The parallels are just striking...
The whole issu between Colonel West and Congresswoman Debbie Wassermann Shultz has a parallel
Here
http://history1800s.about.com/od/abolitionmovement/a/su...
That caning incident is eerliy similar. No, we did not see physical violence here, but we saw the same kind of verbal violence.
And no I refuse to use the Colonel's tittle for Congress... he does not deserve it and what he did was similar to that caning incident. Also she is A PARTY LEADER, She is not a lefty by any stretch but she is a democrat, and a woman... which brings all kinds of issues into the forefront.
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So.....I take it the nadinostradamus primitive is prognosticating that the primitives are a parallel to the slaveowners who lost the War Between the States, and decent and civilized people are similar with the side that won?
nadinostradamus really needs to work on her history more.
The use of "radical" too is Freudianly revealing; as many here know (although it's doubtful that one primitive in 10,000 knows), the term was applied to Republicans during the era, those who won the war, "radical Republicans."
nadinostradamus really needs to work on her history more.
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I suspect it has more to do with DUmp historian nutcase nadin confusing the Profumo Affair with the Taft-Hartley Act, or the Sherman Anti-Trust Act.
I called her a "historian" although she doesn't deserve the "tittle". Especially after the way she shitcanned DUmmy cali.
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To these Radicals, let's use the correct language, any... read this again, ANY democrat in a position of elected political power is not legitimate. In fact. what you are seeing is the idea that anybody but themselves should not be elected... and the subtext is... democracy is the problem.
This is rich considering the DUmmies believe that 99.99999999% of Americans agree with them and any republican has to steal an election to win.
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Come on now!!
Nadainthebrain has been SPOT ON!!!!111!!!eleventy with all of it's other prognostications.
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Nadinobrains couldn't predict a sunrise.
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Just a touch off topic, but haven't the DUmbasses been especially unhinged over the past several days?
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I thought we were all supposed to be dead from the Fukushima reactor leak by now, according to her.
Or was it the oceans becoming as dead as the Moon from the BP spill?
Or mass food riots secondary to the effects of Peak Oil?
Or an extinction-level event from the massive asteroid that...oh wait, that was a movie.
It's hard to keep all the DUmmy apocalypses straight without a program.
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I thought we were all supposed to be dead from the Fukushima reactor leak by now, according to her.
Or was it the oceans becoming as dead as the Moon from the BP spill?
Or mass food riots secondary to the effects of Peak Oil?
Or an extinction-level event from the massive asteroid that...oh wait, that was a movie.
It's hard to keep all the DUmmy apocalypses straight without a program.
I thought it was because of the paralyzing nationwide general strike that would result from union
hooligans vandalizing the Wisconsin capitol with Sharpie markers.
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This is rich considering the DUmmies believe that 99.99999999% of Americans agree with them and any republican has to steal an election to win.
That was my thought too. She must not read DU if she doesn't realize that she is describing her fellow moonbats, not us.
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Just a touch off topic, but haven't the DUmbasses been especially unhinged over the past several days?
YES they have!
I put it down to the 0bama regime's scare mongering about no SS, SSDI, Medicaid, Meedicars, and welfare checks going out after Ramadan. Do you remember the hysterics when the government observed a day off for Reagan's death? It was right at the time of the month when Uncle Suga's check hit the mailboxes.
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I'm all confused. Cycles, trends, parallels, patterns, tipping points, scripts... It's all mixed up with Tea Pot Dome, Profumo, Watergate,
and something about 19th century Mexico. Retired nuclear submarine captains, irradiated milk, and paying attention in physics class.
To say nothing about google, Fox News, google, GI Joe play battles, google, and beer and travel money. And yes, trust me, I need someone to explain it all...
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New campfire, not much action yet.
Trends and patterns are out, cycles are in.
I say bring it, hell, we have all the guns.
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Just a touch off topic, but haven't the DUmbasses been especially unhinged over the past several days?
That time of the month again... Not a full moon but it is the Muzzie moon. Maybe that has some effect on them?
http://www.calculatorcat.com/moon_phases/phasenow.php
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If Dummy nadin was smart, she's set herself up as a psychic and make some money off her predictions. She has those idiots eating out of her hand at DU. Perhaps revive the spirit of Ms. Cleo.
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Since, we are half way through 2011, I think Nadin could be DUmmy of the year.
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I say bring it, hell, we have all the guns.
And more importantly, IMO, the training and experience.
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Nadin is on the right track, but she's not aware of it.
Democrats are the party of slavery, and they never stopped supporting slavery. Democrats used welfare to re-enslave Black America. Louis Farrakhan referred to free govt hand outs as an opiate.
--now there are 14 million new people unemployed, and the democrats have NO plan to put then back to work. No, the rats want these new voters to eternally dependent upon one party to keep eating. This is a new slavery of dependance, and its in the works for the rest of us too.
Nadin is wrong blaming the Conservatives for a coming revolt...we are winning! We will win big in 2012.
Its the RATS who are most likely to revolt...and if DU is an indicator, they may not wait for 2012.
The problem is rats don't fight well. They are best known for abandoning ship.
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Doesn't sound like much of a war, one side is comprised of people on welfare and dependent on Social Security (Which means an awful lot of them are getting pretty well up there in age to boot), and they're going to be sorely disappointed when they find out the field hospital doesn't take MedicAid or Medicare.
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The last time we were here the calendar read 1859... that should send shivers down anybody's back. If we went into a shooting civil war, and at this pont it is not illogical or unexpected to anybody who understands cycles... we are talking of at least 20 million dead... not out of the realm of possibility to speak of 50 to a 100 million dead. That is what civil wars look like, But what you are seeing in DC is not disaster capitalism... it is actually that much more dangerous.
100 million dead? While I'm sure it would be a blood bath I really don't think that there are 100 million liberals in the country. There's surely not 100 million that would try to fight instead of hide.
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Goonads is awaiting her adoring masses to arrive.
You nasty trolls must be patient.
Moles, gird your loins.
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I hope they don't start The Civil War before Friday afternoon...I got things to do this week...and I hope we can have it wrapped up by Sunday afternoon.
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With someone as smart as Nadin to lead them, we're all doomed.
UNLESS we pull the plug on Google. :tongue:
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I hope they don't start The Civil War before Friday afternoon...I got things to do this week...and I hope we can have it wrapped up by Sunday afternoon.
Shouldn't be a problem--read the script. :tongue:
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Shouldn't be a problem--read the script. :tongue:
It's on google, after all.
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there is an aspect of racism here... after all this is a black man and that is insulting.
...Yes, there is some to skin color but they did the same to Clinton and to a very small extent to Carter.
TRANSLATION: It's anti-black racism even though they have the exact same reaction to white men, which they've done twice as many times, universally and consistently. Conversely, they only tolerate people like Allen West because he agrees with them in principle...but that only betrays their racism.
To these Radicals, let's use the correct language, any... read this again, ANY democrat in a position of elected political power is not legitimate.
Apparently this "racism" she speaks of has the singular attribute of being democrats.
So I assume "democrat" is now a race...or something.
In 1859 the conversation was about the right of states to allow or not allow slavery.
And in 2012 the issue will be: can states allow their citizens to decide their own social norms about marriage, education, retirement, healthcare, aid to the poor and disabled or will the bought-and-paid-for cronies rules us all to our fiscal ruin.
And once again the democrats--as in 1859--have sided with the slavers...only instead of states rights (which they never really believed in) they have assumed power in the federal government.
The whole issu between Colonel West and Congresswoman Debbie Wassermann Shultz has a parallel...
Indeed: Democrats are assholes.
ieoeja (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-25-11 05:05 PM
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7. Though most people have the 1859 conversation backwards.
The South dominated federal politics for decades. They pushed through numerous pro-slavery issues at the federal level. While their big push in 1859 was to expand slavery to the territories, they also openly proclaimed their intent to eliminate the northern ban on slavery.
For that matter, the Republicans took the stance in 1859 that the territories should be allowed to vote on the issue. It was the South that prevented this because they knew the overwhelming majority in most territories were anti-slavery. Again: the South was opposed to regional self-determination.
Only when they saw the writing on the wall during the 1860 election did they begin talking about "States Rights". Even then they *never* spoke about the right to keep slaves in the South. The conversation was usually about "personal property rights" in the North where the property in question was slaves. And increasingly about the right of secession.
Change "South" to "democrats" and not only is the reading more accurate for the past, it is spot-on for the present.
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Well, when nadin stocks up on milk again, you know the time is very ****ing nigh.
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nadinbrzezinski
Yes, I suspect we will default, this is about destroying the legitimacy of a party, a WHOLE party, they do not recognize has any rights.
Not true. The political left has the right to remain silent. Had they exercised that right more often, this conversation need not take place.
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Poor Nads . Talking like she's Tony Montana when she and her friends are more like Tony the Tiger