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Title: Chalk up one more for blammo's government
Post by: CG6468 on July 23, 2011, 12:25:28 PM
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Heirs Lose Fight With Gov't to Keep Rare Gold Coins
By Maryclaire Dane
Wednesday, Jul 20, 2011  |  Updated 5:41 PM EDT

AP

A jury has decided that a set of rare gold coins found in a bank deposit box rightfully belongs to the U.S. government.

The decision, made on Wednesday, caps an unusual civil case that combined history, coin collecting and whether the set of rare $20 "double eagles" should have ever let the U.S. Mint in 1933.

Where's the transcript of the trial? (http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Heirs-Lose-Fight-With-Government-to-Keep-Dads-Rare-1933-Gold-Coins-125908579.html)
Title: Re: Chalk up one more for blammo's government
Post by: thelaughingman on July 23, 2011, 01:14:36 PM
Possession in nine-tenths of the law...




...except when it comes to Democrats.
Title: Re: Chalk up one more for blammo's government
Post by: docstew on July 24, 2011, 01:54:30 PM
Hannity had a good take on this. The gov't would get more out of this if the heirs had to sell and then give them the taxes for that income. As it stands, the gov't has painted themselves into a corner. They can't sell them, as their case was built on the stance that private ownership was illegal in the first place. Good job, DOJ, you have taken ten ounces of gold (value by weight: ~$10K) from a family instead of being able to get $30M+ in tax money.
Title: Re: Chalk up one more for blammo's government
Post by: FreeBorn on July 24, 2011, 02:03:16 PM
Hannity had a good take on this. The gov't would get more out of this if the heirs had to sell and then give them the taxes for that income. As it stands, the gov't has painted themselves into a corner. They can't sell them, as their case was built on the stance that private ownership was illegal in the first place. Good job, DOJ, you have taken ten ounces of gold (value by weight: ~$10K) from a family instead of being able to get $30M+ in tax money.
Bullseye! Split the tree. ^!
Title: Re: Chalk up one more for blammo's government
Post by: thundley4 on July 24, 2011, 05:16:34 PM
Hannity had a good take on this. The gov't would get more out of this if the heirs had to sell and then give them the taxes for that income. As it stands, the gov't has painted themselves into a corner. They can't sell them, as their case was built on the stance that private ownership was illegal in the first place. Good job, DOJ, you have taken ten ounces of gold (value by weight: ~$10K) from a family instead of being able to get $30M+ in tax money.


Why can't the government put the coins up for auction and have all of the money for themselves?
Title: Re: Chalk up one more for blammo's government
Post by: docstew on July 24, 2011, 11:13:46 PM

Why can't the government put the coins up for auction and have all of the money for themselves?

Their legal argument was that the coins should never have been in private hands. Selling them undermines that position, opening them up for a lawsuit by the heirs who currently possess them.
Title: Re: Chalk up one more for blammo's government
Post by: thundley4 on July 24, 2011, 11:36:00 PM
Their legal argument was that the coins should never have been in private hands. Selling them undermines that position, opening them up for a lawsuit by the heirs who currently possess them.
That makes sense, but it doesn't mean the government won't try it.