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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: VivisMom on April 24, 2008, 05:23:38 AM
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 01:58 PM
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Time for this REPOST on birth control and poverty: How the Christofacists are making us all poorer:
Advertisements [?]How the Christofacists are making us all poorer: the creation of a Permanent Under Class
Family planning is one of those issues that always gets seen as a "women's" issue, and men make the mistake thinking it doesn't affect them. But the Christofacist assault on family planning--birth control and abortion--as well as its insistence that women should be at hme, DOES affect men who marry or live with women.
Family planning allows women and the men they marry or live with to LIMIT the number of children they will have. This allows people in the working and middle classes to control at least some of their economic destiny. Family planning services allow couples to delay having children until they can afford them; it allows couples to decide on how many children they think they can afford. It allows couples not to spend their entire lives in debt paying for children they can't afford.
When choices about family size are taken out of the hands of couples and put into the hands of government, which at the moment seems inclined to deny this kind of control to couples, the working and middle classes are denied any control over their economic destiny. Unplanned pregnancies abound and poverty can be the end result for many working class people who cannot afford them.
In addition, the prejudice that women "should be in the home" affects how women are regarded in the workforce. If a company's personnel believe that a woman should not be working anyway, they don't have any qualms about paying her less or limiting her choices of profession in the workplace.
This is not just a woman's issue: If a man is married or in a committed relationship with a woman, his own lifestyle will be affected by his SO's lack of choices in the workplace. If there are children, the welfare of these children is at stake because of the prejudices against women.
In other words, guys, "women's" issues are your issues. It's about dollars coming out of your pocket. It is about having no control over your economic life as a couple. And, when "the rich get richer and the poor get children," children that they cannot afford to take care of, an increase of poverty, a permanent underclass with no control over its destiny, is the result.
Last time I went to Target, the condoms were right there next to the tampons. No locks, no "you must be 18 to purchase" signs...just out there for anyone to buy. And I'm pretty sure that most HMOs also cover various forms of the birth control pill.
Oh, wait! By 'birth control' you mean 'unfettered access to murder unborn children'! D'OH! What was I thinking? :thatsright:
You know, this whole argument irritates the :censored: out of me. There is effective birth control...it's called keeping your slutty legs together. If you are incapable of doing that, there are a variety of other birth control methods available to you, either OTC or by prescription. But MURDER should NEVER, EVER be a birth control option.
As for 'there are so many poor people, lack of abortion makes us poor' etc., what a load of shit! First of all, you're never entirely READY for a child. Second, I don't know of any parents that could 'afford' a child. Kids are expensive! Every time someone tells me they're waiting until they can afford kids to have them, I laugh.
I won't even go into why I don't want the government involved in my birth control. :o
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I think the primitive is one of these primitives who thinks the "planet" is overpopulated, but doesn't want to do her part to do something about it, even though we probably wouldn't miss her.
I've said this before, and I'll keep saying this--Democrats, liberals, and primitives like to cloak base motives, selfish motives, behind some facade of nobility, in this case alleging they're anti-children because the planet is overpopulated, when in fact they're anti-children simply because children take time and resources away from THEM.
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"Family Planning".....now there's a subject for an ox and a moran.
I always thought abortion was the end result of "NO" family planning.
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I bet this DUmmies head would spin over the works and ideas of Margaret Sanger!
Asshat morons!
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I bet this DUmmies head would spin over the works and ideas of Margaret Sanger!
Asshat morons!
They would feign disdain but they words and actions are solidly with Sanger.
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DUmmies, please go stand in the target path of a Hellfire missile.
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When choices about family size are taken out of the hands of couples and put into the hands of government,
you mean, like in China?