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Title: DUmmie wants a more secure DU
Post by: ScubaGuy on July 19, 2011, 06:06:42 AM

These people are IDIOTS.

Secure DU now. (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1519954)

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boppers (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-19-11 06:22 AM
Original message
A thread in which I ask folks to lobby for DU to support https.
   
In short, if anybody between you, and DU, wants to see what you're posting, or reading, they can do so, with nothing more sophisticated than a laptop, and free software, and a point of access.

That's it. Seriously.

If you have an un-encrypted home wireless connection, somebody can sit outside your home and read everything you post. If you have encrypted wireless, but you connect through an ISP, then the ISP can read and see what you post. If your packets transit international boundaries, it's also legal for US authorities to read, and inspect, everything you post.

It's time for DU to support basic, simple, encryption.

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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-19-11 06:50 AM
Response to Original message
1. If anyone wants to see what anyone else is posting on DU, can they not
   
simply type in the DU URL and read the posts?

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boppers (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-19-11 07:00 AM
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2. With encryption:
   
They cannot just filter for all "Obamanaut" posts, as they happen, in real time.... because it's encrypted.

They can, however, search for such, once a post is made.

Without encryption, however, somebody can legally intercept *every* "Obamanaut" post, no warrant required, even if it is a private message, because it has no measures taken to ensure privacy.

So what we have here is Boppers is hijacking his neighbors wireless connection and he doesn't want anyone to see that it's him posting on DU.
Title: Re: DUmmie wants a more secure DU
Post by: Karin on July 19, 2011, 08:22:04 AM
How about instead being decent and civilized and not posting anything you wouldn't want your grandmother to see.  There is no privacy on the internet.  What are you up to, anyway, boppers? 
Title: Re: DUmmie wants a more secure DU
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on July 19, 2011, 09:00:36 AM
If naughty old boppers thinks that will stop the rampant stupidity aired on DU from getting out into the world at large, he is very sadly mistaken.

On edit:  But if they did do that, I'll bet some of the more inflammatory types would really let their hair down and say some truly amazing things, things that would have the Secret Service paying calls on some of the members.  Alas, restricting access to the site beyond current strictures would wound or kill $kammer & Co's cash cow, so I doubt that would ever happen.
Title: Re: DUmmie wants a more secure DU
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 19, 2011, 09:16:30 AM
Hiding in mommies basement isn't enough anymore?
Title: Re: DUmmie wants a more secure DU
Post by: FlaGator on July 19, 2011, 09:55:17 AM
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away
Title: Re: DUmmie wants a more secure DU
Post by: Boudicca on July 19, 2011, 04:41:23 PM
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away


And it turns little boppers BONKERS. :-)
Title: Re: DUmmie wants a more secure DU
Post by: LC EFA on July 19, 2011, 05:00:39 PM
Ummm...

What the hell difference does it make if the data stream is insecure when the information sent is publicly accessible on the target end ?
 
Title: Re: DUmmie wants a more secure DU
Post by: formerlurker on July 19, 2011, 05:05:41 PM
Is he setting up a "I didn't post that, someone intercepted my data, changed it, and posted that instead" scenario? 



Title: Re: DUmmie wants a more secure DU
Post by: FreeBorn on July 19, 2011, 05:06:01 PM
If pot ever is legalized there will be one good thing about it, besides the price tripling due to taxes. The government warning label, WARNING- INDUCES PARANOIA AND DECREASED COGNITIVE FUNCTION but that won't stop them anyway.  :stoner:
Title: Re: DUmmie wants a more secure DU
Post by: MoshMasterD on July 19, 2011, 05:35:42 PM
There are those at the DUmp that want access throughout all of the DUmp.
Title: Re: DUmmie wants a more secure DU
Post by: miskie on July 19, 2011, 05:44:32 PM
It will never happen. The resources needed to encrypt common web traffic full time would be cost prohibitive, else DU would run slow as molasses.

That's why virtually all websites only encrypt worthwhile functions, such as payment gateways - else everyone would encrypt everything.
Title: Re: DUmmie wants a more secure DU
Post by: Mr Mannn on July 19, 2011, 05:51:02 PM
For all the threats that have come out of DU...they are probably on any number of mandatory watch-lists for the Secret service, the FBI, and any number of other forces.
Title: Re: DUmmie wants a more secure DU
Post by: GOBUCKS on July 19, 2011, 07:14:35 PM
I think the DUmmies suspect that the elusive, enigmatic Elad can access their porn stashes.
Title: Re: DUmmie wants a more secure DU
Post by: DefiantSix on July 19, 2011, 07:24:14 PM
I think the DUmmies suspect that the elusive, enigmatic Elad can access their porn stashes.

I'm sensing the way being paved for suicide runs by moles to end less than suicidally.

"Sorry, Mr. Skinner, sir, but I didn't post all that reich wing garbage.  My account was hacked because the 'Island isn't secure."
Title: Re: DUmmie wants a more secure DU
Post by: true_blood on July 19, 2011, 08:13:17 PM
Ummm...

What the hell difference does it make if the data stream is insecure when the information sent is publicly accessible on the target end ?
That's what I was thinking as well.
Just your "average" DUmmie using their "common sense". I use that word, common sense, very loosely when speaking of DUmmies.
Title: Re: DUmmie wants a more secure DU
Post by: ScubaGuy on July 20, 2011, 06:22:33 AM
Ummm...

What the hell difference does it make if the data stream is insecure when the information sent is publicly accessible on the target end ?
 

That's the funny part about the thread.

Besides being the typical brain-dead DUmmie who doesn't understand that in the end the post is public the only other reason I could think of for wanting that is that he's 'borrowing' an unsecured WiFi connection and doesn't want anyone to identify him.

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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Jul-20-11 06:41 AM
Response to Original message
18. If you have an un-encrypted home wireless connection, you're a moron. No https for you
   
on a simple internet forum.

Of course he's a moron, he's on DU.
Title: Re: DUmmie wants a more secure DU
Post by: Tucker on July 20, 2011, 10:14:37 AM
Is he setting up a "I didn't post that, someone intercepted my data, changed it, and posted that instead" scenario? 





That didn't work for Weiner.

DUmmies never learn from the mistakes of others.
Title: Re: DUmmie wants a more secure DU
Post by: Airwolf on July 20, 2011, 10:21:04 AM
Also It's not like the Governments cyber guys couldn't hack DU like taking the panties off the prom queen after a few drinks.