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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOBUCKS on July 19, 2011, 01:31:17 AM
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You have probably wondered how the moonbats elected as President a jug-eared Kenyan whose only experience was as a race hustler in the Chicago democrat machine. Well, the answer is they didn't elect him - we did. It's all explained by DUmmy BeFree:
BeFree (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-19-11 12:48 AM
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How did Obama ever get elected?
The 2008 Scam is Working
The voting machines were rigged just enough to allow Obama to win and put a few Dems in office.
Kinda put down the argument we were all making about the machines, didn't it?
Then in 2010 the machines were rigged to get rid of a bunch of Dems.
I predict that in 2012 Obama will be allowed to win but the congress and more states go red, just like a bunch of states turned more red in 2010.
And really, who gives a shit but a few 'conspiracy nuts' like me?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1519362
I think you know the answer to that question, DUmmy BeFree. No one gives a shit about conspiracy nuts like you.
AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-19-11 12:52 AM
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1. Keeping the Senate is a Long Shot Anyway. We Have Too Many Seats to Defend
Our chances of taking back the House are better, but are being reduced by Republican gerrymandering and harsh voter ID laws.
We will likely have to deal with election fraud on an unprecedented level as well.
Palmer Eldritch (214 posts) Tue Jul-19-11 12:53 AM
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2. or even half a shit, really...
At least you aren't delusional enough to think Obama won't be reelected.
BeFree (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-19-11 12:55 AM
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3. But you are delusional?
You think the voting machines play no part?
Palmer Eldritch (214 posts) Tue Jul-19-11 01:28 AM
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10. They didn't let him win. He just won in spite of all their efforts. And he will again.
Yeah, unfortunately, I pretty much agree. In 2012, we'll see tens of millions of race-based democrat voters, just like in 2008. Since the
black messiah wasn't running in 2010, they stayed home and the democrat party was demolished. It will be very difficult to overcome
the one-two punch of hordes of racist democrat voters, and competing factions within the Republican Party. Interestingly, neither of those have
anything at all to do with the disastrous incompetence of the muslim, or the state of the union.
BeFree (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-19-11 01:33 AM
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12. You don't think they count the votes?
They actually are happy with Obama. He's keeping the wars going. Wall Street is going great. And Obama is waffling on all the liberal issues. Flip-flopping is what they call it.
Like I say, they could have stolen it but then they might have finally got caught.
tularetom (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-19-11 12:58 AM
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4. He got elected so the republicans would have somebody to blame when the shit hit the fan
And we all could see it coming. We knew they would have to point the finger at somebody for all the ****ups of the bush/cheney gang.
What we didn't anticipate (at least I didn't) was that Obama would play the part so well. I thought the guy would fight back and turn the accusations right back on them.
I never expected he would allow himself to be the scapegoat for the bush cluster**** but he has embraced that role.
That hopey changey thing ain't working out so well for me right now. I'll vote for him in 2012 of course but I'm not real enthusiastic about it. Just like 1996 when I had to hold my nose and vote for Clinton again.
The DUmp's dick inspector chimes in. Horse with no Brain has never seen a conspiracy theory she didn't like:
Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-19-11 12:58 AM
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5. Just as cynical
bush destroyed the economy and everything they could. They knew they wouldn't be reelected.
So--TPTB gave the Dems the choice of two polarizing candidates guaranteed to fire up the crazies on the right. They had to figure out which one riled them more...and that was the chosen one.
Weak majority, republican obstructionism lead to dissatisfaction that brought out every racist loon from every rock in the country--and that is when they made their move.
All these extreme governors...extreme politics in DC...
DEMANDING that "entitlements" be cut...
This was a strategically planned attack. No doubt in my mind.
DUmmy BeFree is a believer in fellow conspiracy nut TruthIsAll:
BeFree (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-19-11 01:37 AM
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13. Not just 'My' theory
The computer experts will tell you that they don't think elections should be counted by computer.
And the facts of who owns the damn things is no theory.
Exit polls from 2000 on have been mighty screwy.
In fact, 2000 proves that they will steal elections and can get away with stealing elections.
Well, with both Diebold and ES&S in our pocket, with Murdoch controlling the media, Rove plotting strategy, and the
unlimited cash of the Koch brothers, we can pretty much put anyone in office we want.
There's really no reason for DUmbasses to sacrifice toking time to vote.
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-19-11 12:52 AM
1. Keeping the Senate is a Long Shot Anyway. We Have Too Many Seats to Defend
Our chances of taking back the House are better, but are being reduced by Republican gerrymandering and harsh voter ID laws.
We will likely have to deal with election fraud on an unprecedented level as well.
Harsh voter ID laws? How is requiring an ID harsh, fool?
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Yeah, unfortunately, I pretty much agree. In 2012, we'll see tens of millions of race-based democrat voters, just like in 2008. Since the black messiah wasn't running in 2010, they stayed home and the democrat party was demolished. It will be very difficult to overcome the one-two punch of hordes of racist democrat voters, and competing factions within the Republican Party.
While he will still get 95% of the Black vote just to help a brutha' out, I don't think the turnout's going to be nearly as enthusiastic for him this time around. He's not the exciting challenger anymore, he is the incumbent who basically hasn't moved the ball for shit as far as his racial constituency is concerned. They won't suddenly start thinking for themselves or vote for the evil Republicans, but a pretty good chunk of them are going to just say '**** it, why bother' and stay home.
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Harsh voter ID laws? How is requiring an ID harsh, fool?
You don't think it's pretty harsh expecting dead folks to claw themselves out of the ground and stumble to where ever to get a picture ID? It takes all of their energy just to claw out of the ground and vote straight "D" at election time.
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This whole thread is beneath bottom-of-the-barrel stupidity. I am half tempted to FB one or two DUmp threads a day and ask my lib friends if this is what they want to be grouped with.
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This whole thread is beneath bottom-of-the-barrel stupidity. I am half tempted to FB one or two DUmp threads a day and ask my lib friends if this is what they want to be grouped with.
I've done that and had at least two lefty drop because of that. One asked why I was posting links to a "private" forum, and I told him that I was just showing people how crazy with hatred some on the left are.
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While he will still get 95% of the Black vote just to help a brutha' out, I don't think the turnout's going to be nearly as enthusiastic for him this time around. He's not the exciting challenger anymore, he is the incumbent who basically hasn't moved the ball for shit as far as his racial constituency is concerned.
I don't see any reason to expect an outcome any different from 2008.
From our side, his awful performance may increase the desire to vote him out, but his opposition is going to be split between those who win a brutal fight for the nomination and those who refuse to support the party's nominee. It's almost certain that half the party will call the nominee either a "RINO" or an "extremist", and that's likely to be fatal.
On the democrat side, his base is unaffected by unemployment, their government checks haven't been reduced by a dime, and he's just as black as he was in 2008. Winnah.
I only hope that not too many repuke candidates for Senate and House get swamped in the black tidal wave.
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Well, I do agree that turnout's likely to be an even bigger problem for our side than theirs.
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I don't see any reason to expect an outcome any different from 2008.
From our side, his awful performance may increase the desire to vote him out, but his opposition is going to be split between those who win a brutal fight for the nomination and those who refuse to support the party's nominee. It's almost certain that half the party will call the nominee either a "RINO" or an "extremist", and that's likely to be fatal.
On the democrat side, his base is unaffected by unemployment, their government checks haven't been reduced by a dime, and he's just as black as he was in 2008. Winnah.
I only hope that not too many repuke candidates for Senate and House get swamped in the black tidal wave.
Don't see it happening.......
I see a "perfect storm" coming........and I think that DAT is correct about the minority vote. The key is the "Independents" and he lost most of them a while back, and there is little chance he'll regain them. Those that thought it would be "cool" to elect a black president are now high on the unemployment list, and gas is still breaking toward four bucks a gallon. They can't sell their houses, and if they have any savings they've been decimated.
There are factors at play that were absent in 2008....the "Tea Party" for example, has gone from nothing to a real force in politics. SCOTUS has eliminated the restrictions on corporate support of candidates, and the incumbent is inarguably the most anti-business president in the past century. Republicans control a lot more state governorships, SoS positions, and legislatures than they have in 50 years, which with voter ID laws, repressing illegals, and redistricting will all have subtle benefits. And then there is Obamacare.....which has pissed off about 60% of the electorate.......and becoming more unpopular every week, as a new revelation is disclosed.....
All we need is a candidate that can win......and based on what I see right now, Perry is that guy. I'd love to see Bachmann in the lead, but I don't see it happening, Cain can't articulate a foreign policy coherently (although I know he's popular here), he simply doesn't have any greater chance than Ron Paul.....Nada. Gingrich, Paulenty, and Santorum will all be out after New Hampshire.........
Obama only won by 4%, and a number of the key electoral states have taken a huge right turn in 2010. Unless the Republicans screw up badly, it's their election to lose.
As I mentioned in another thread, the WH is in a huge panic, because their internal polling is showing them that they can't possibly win, based on today's circumstances. Although it's a "political eternity" until next November, many of the factors cited above aren't going to change radically......."it's the economy stupid"......that will determine the outcome.
doc
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-19-11 12:58 AM
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4. He got elected so the republicans would have somebody to blame when the shit hit the fan
And we all could see it coming. We knew they would have to point the finger at somebody for all the ****ups of the bush/cheney gang.
What we didn't anticipate (at least I didn't) was that Obama would play the part so well. I thought the guy would fight back and turn the accusations right back on them.
I never expected he would allow himself to be the scapegoat for the bush cluster**** but he has embraced that role.
So I really haven't been hearing pResident Toonces wailing "Bush Ate My Homework!!" every stinking time anything goes wrong for him???
Duh Won's done manned up and taken the "R" for it all, you say???
Yikes, I really gots ta get my meds adjusted then, I guess!
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I think all this will be playing a major role in the election of 2012:
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I think all this will be playing a major role in the election of 2012:
Most of the Kenyan's supporters haven't worked since the Great Society kicked in, and cannot even pronounce "deficit".
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Most of the Kenyan's supporters haven't worked since the Great Society kicked in, and cannot even pronounce "deficit".
True.......we must be cautious not to evaluate the average voter based on ourselves.......we pay attention to all this stuff, and the average voter only reacts to how it effects them personally.
I believe that I once read that in any given presidential election......40% of the voters make their decision on the way to the polls on election day. Scary........
doc
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True.......we must be cautious not to evaluate the average voter based on ourselves.......we pay attention to all this stuff, and the average voter only reacts to how it effects them personally.
I believe that I once read that in any given presidential election......40% of the voters make their decision on the way to the polls on election day. Scary........
doc
Politics is a game of hot potato. If things are bad, the party in power suffers. If things are good, the party in power prosper. The average person doesn't know or care about what party controls which branch - just the party the president belongs to.
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Politics is a game of hot potato. If things are bad, the party in power suffers. If things are good, the party in power prosper. The average person doesn't know or care about what party controls which branch - just the party the president belongs to.
Exactly. And that's why the Obamessiah's inner circle is trying to push the meme, "We kept it from being really bad."
Thing is, a lot of voters may not care how bad it could have been--all they will care about is how bad it is now.
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Exactly. And that's why the Obamessiah's inner circle is trying to push the meme, "We kept it from being really bad."
Thing is, a lot of voters may not care how bad it could have been--all they will care about is how bad it is now.
Well-said!
:cheersmate:
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I wonder if that voter intimidation with the black panthers had anything to do with it? (Still can't believe that case got dropped. What kind of bullshit is that?!)
What do you primitives think? :bird:
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I wonder if that voter intimidation with the black panthers had anything to do with it? (Still can't believe that case got dropped. What kind of bullshit is that?!)
What do you primitives think? :bird:
That's what comes of making a race-pimp the AG.