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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on July 18, 2011, 05:50:28 PM
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jul-18-11 01:04 PM
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A right-wingers worst nightmare. Michael Medved dreams that Obama proposes a massive jobs program! Updated at 6:07 PM
A right-wing columnist worst nightmare. Michael Medved dreams that President Obama proposes an "America Works" massive jobs program! BBI
My 2012 Obama Nightmare
What if the president were suddenly to turn bold on tackling unemployment? Michael Medved on the bad dream that could shift the economic blame to the Republicans.
July 8, 2011
“We’ve waited three long years for bankers and CEOs to step up and do their part but when it comes to offering new jobs to their fellow Americans, these pampered plutocrats say ‘we can’t’ or ‘we won’t.’ America deserves a better answer than this smug selfishness. The long wait for a corporate turnaround is now officially over. On the crucial challenge of providing a meaningful job to every single American who wants one, we say tonight, ‘we can’ and ‘we will.’â€
At this declaration, the Democrats in the House chamber erupted in boisterous cheers, providing further sustained ovations as the president explained his bold plan. He promised to hire 10 million unemployed Americans—a full 10 million!—in federally funded jobs by the end of the year. He proposed to put them to work repairing highways and building high-speed rail, constructing and repairing schools, restoring and expanding parks and recreation facilities, planting trees, tutoring kids, providing day care, caring for the sick and elderly, policing our streets and neighborhoods, putting up new, environmentally responsible power plants, cleaning up pollution, building homes for the homeless, helping update and replace the equipment for our military.
Recognizing that some of the unemployed won’t possess the skills they need to fill the new jobs, Obama pledged to hire them immediately nonetheless and to assign them as needed to intensive job-retraining, at full pay, for three to six months. “Is it better to continue paying out public assistance to people who are out of work, or to sign them up right away to learn new skills that will restart their careers and rebuild the American economy?â€
The president’s plan would tap those concentrations of wealth to fund his vast jobs program with an emergency tax increase on the wealthiest Americans—restoring the 50 percent top marginal rate that Ronald Reagan championed in his initial tax reform of 1981. “My Republican friends love to cite President Reagan’s administration as the golden age of American conservatism. And I propose to follow his great example as a tax reformer. No, I won’t raise taxes on ordinary Americans—and 98 percent of you will pay nothing more. Even the wealthiest Americans won’t see a difference in what they pay on the first $250,000 they earn each year.
Read the full article at:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/08/u-s-bu...
This is a speech that needs to be given and that we all would love to hear. But, it's just a bad nightmare and unlikely event for a right-wing Republican columnist. BBI
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Didn't we try this already? All the shovel ready jobs that were supposed to be created with TARP.
meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jul-18-11 01:06 PM
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1. Obama plunging the nation into prosperity???1!
Please think of the CHILDREN!1
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jul-18-11 01:35 PM
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7. This is really bizarre from Medved...
Works for me, though, as far as it goes.
Jobs are not the answer. Distribution is. People should be allowed to work.
--imm
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jul-18-11 01:58 PM
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8. We need jobs for all. Once they are created we can distribute them to the unemployed! Updated at 6:07 PM
The jobless want jobs!
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jul-18-11 02:03 PM
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9. Except that most jobs destroy the environment.
People need sustenance and purpose. Jobs are so 20th Century.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jul-18-11 03:06 PM
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11. So if 20 more million people lose their jobs that would be just great for the environment! Updated at 6:07 PM
If people stop eating because they can't afford to eat that would eliminate a lot of human waste when they die and improve the atmosphere!
I can see how improving the nations infrastructure and building a modern high speed national railroad passenger network and electric light rail systems in cities will destroy the environment.
Wait a minute .... no I can't!
It's the old propaganda spread by corporate media that it's either jobs or the environment. Once is supposedly opposed to the other.
I'm not buying that.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jul-18-11 06:41 PM
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12. There is not enough meaningful work to keep everyone fully employed.
I am for all kinds of green industry and scientific research. But that doesn't solve the problem.
At a certain point, and that's way before full employment, the labor needs of a society are met. In the 50s, a worker could produce what it took a hundred a century before. Now machines can do most of that. So things get disposable. So there are landfills and ocean dumps. And we make more things that use resources and wind up in landfills so that people can have jobs?
At some point we have to deal with entropy.
--imm
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I'm guessing he loves that youtube video on how everything should be free.
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The immoderate DUmmie makes me sad. Every time a DUmmie, such as Scorpio, steps up to prove that he/she/it is just as stupid as Beth another DUmmie, such as immoderate, steps up and tries to prove that he/she/it is just as stupid also. It's like the DUmp is a perpetual motion stupid machine.
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The left is constantly trying to blame evil corporations and the rich for not creating jobs, yet they claim that jobs are created by demand from workers? WTF? In all seriousness, I don't think the economy will see much improvement until the debt mess is settled and ObamaCare is either repealed or in full effect and stabilized.
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It confuses me why DUmmies always are talking about jobs,less then 1% of them actually want to work for a living.
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10 million jobs at Porkulus standards (saved or created0 works out to about $4 trillion dollars.
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I have no idea what the immoderate prim is on about. Unless it is simply psychotic ramblings.
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It's like the DUmp is a perpetual motion stupid machine.
I can't tell you how awesome that it, sir; I think I'm going to start a collection of awesome comments here.
And by the way, it appears the last--and only--"jobs creation" of the Big Zero was this census thing.....and one is left wondering where the census workers are working now.
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I can't tell you how awesome that it, sir; I think I'm going to start a collection of awesome comments here.
And by the way, it appears the last--and only--"jobs creation" of the Big Zero was this census thing.....and one is left wondering where the census workers are working now.
The new "Create a Voter" ACORN project.
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I don't think Medved has all that much to worry about. At this point, there's no way in Hell Obiwan could fund a jobs bill.
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Michael Medved dreams that President Obama proposes an "America Works" massive jobs program
And I dream of waking up with Matthew McConaughey in my bed. Your point is?
Seriously, I had not seen much of imm, and I didn't think it was possible to be to the left of commies, but, the radicalism of DU never fails to surprise me.
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The illegal aliens would love a jobs bill because they will be the ones to benefit from it. DUmmies aren't going to work until Obama (or someone) cuts off the government freebies.
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It confuses me why DUmmies always are talking about jobs,less then 1% of them actually want to work for a living.
Two words...Penis envy.
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The OP's reaction can be summed up thusly:
:jerkit: :jerkit: :jerkit:
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And I dream of waking up with Matthew McConaughey in my bed. Your point is?
I would be for that if he came with a mute button.
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I'm beginning to think Mr. Medved is Drale.
(http://www.thehotglove.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/pic27.jpg)
My 2012 Obama Nightmare
What if the president were suddenly to turn bold on tackling unemployment? Michael Medved on the bad dream that could shift the economic blame to the Republicans.
July 8, 2011
*hufff*
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He promised to hire 10 million unemployed Americans—a full 10 million!—in federally funded jobs by the end of the year.
So, DUmmie, just where does that money come from? Oh, crap, I forgot, the Feds just need to print more, that will solve everything. :thatsright:
I can't wait for the mass suicide 1-1-13, it can't come soon enough.
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I can't wait for the mass suicide 1-1-13, it can't come soon enough.
If only they had the balls to actually do it.
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Has anyone ever identified the alternate reality that these people live in?
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Has anyone ever identified the alternate reality that these people live in?
It's in a toilet bowl, full of bong water.
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Workers DEMAND additional jobs be created?
Uh, nope--I'll take the overtime, thanks very much.
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Maybe Medved was proposing something so out of character for Obama, that it would be almost universally recognized as a fantasy with zero hope of being accomplished . . . but not by the DUmp! :loser: