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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on July 17, 2011, 09:04:22 PM
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jul-17-11 09:27 PM
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Someone I care about is hooked on methamphetamine
This drug has got its claws so deep in this person it's not even funny. "Pat" has been in and out of rehab, the last time checking out against medical advice because Pat is an adult and the rehab center won't hold on to any adult who doesn't want to stay with the program. Pat's family has already severed their ties until Pat makes a conscious decision to get clean and stay clean.
Only thing is, I know what a monster of a drug ice is. And all these meth labs must be getting their ephedrine from somewhere, new Federal regulations or no, because more and more people are getting hooked on and dying because of this damned drug.
Please keep Pat and the family in your thoughts and prayers. I don't want this to end badly. Pat still has a chance for a great and meaningful life.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1511617
If this post came from any other group of people rather than the DUmp I would feel bad for Pat, however Franks First Law of Primitives states, primitives lie all the time.
Odds are if there is any truth to this tale, the DUmmy is the meth head, not Pat, who is more than likely a fictitious person.
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jul-17-11 09:32 PM
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2. Hard to make a good decision without access to your frontal lobes.
Which is why that tough love bs never made any sense to me.
Thoughts and wishes for your friend.
If Beth ever made a good decision it was by accident.
Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jul-17-11 09:33 PM
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3. like all the stupid actions "we" take against drugs, making cold pills hard to get
just got heavier criminals involved to provide the product. because we are always looking for silver bullets and using bandaids to fix big problems, we never attend to the real causes of them and our good intentions too often result in much worse unintended consequences.
Sorry about Pat. It is one evil mofo of a monkey.
I'm guessing that means if only we taxed the rich more then this wouldn't happen.
blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jul-17-11 09:36 PM
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4. I'm really sorry to hear that.
The restrictions on pseudoephedrine have done nothing to curb the meth industry.
People called "smurfs" make a lot of money buying the medication at pharmacies for the meth labs.
I truly hope your friend chooses to deal with his addiction and save his life.
Ten to one this DUmmy is papa smurf.
On the off chance this DUmmy isn't lying, I hope Pat will make the decision to kick the habit, seek help, and clean up her life.
Only a few replies so far, but I'm wondering how long it will be before this is Bush's fault.
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A guy told me up at work that the addicts go into rehab when the drugs cease working for them. Then they spend x number of days, weeks, months, whatever, and then when they get out they go right back to their ways.
Dunno. That's what he said and it makes sense.
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That reminds me, anyone catching the season premiere of Breaking Bad?
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A guy told me up at work that the addicts go into rehab when the drugs cease working for them. Then they spend x number of days, weeks, months, whatever, and then when they get out they go right back to their ways.
Dunno. That's what he said and it makes sense.
That's the word around here, too.
Hey, DUmmies. Much of the ephedrine used to manufacture meth in this country is hoofed up from Mexico. Illegals = "Doing the work Americans won't."
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Only thing is, I know what a monster of a drug ice is.
Of course you know what a monster ice is. I didn't even know ice = meth.
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Only thing is, I know what a monster of a drug ice is.
Of course you know what a monster ice is. I didn't even know ice = meth.
I'd never heard it called "ice" either.
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Hey, DUmmies. Much of the ephedrine used to manufacture meth in this country is hoofed up from Mexico. Illegals = "Doing the work Americans won't."
It's not just the ephedra, it's the finished product. Once we placed restrictions on our chemical precursors, the Mexicans went wild making meth. You'll still have the random monkey setting up a Nazi lab, but even those are rare nowadays. Hell, I rarely even see cocaine anymore. It's mostly just weed and speed.
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I'd never heard it called "ice" either.
I know, right? I try to stay up on this, seeing as I have a college age daughter. And hey, I watch Celebrity Rehab. I thought I'd heard it all. :beer:
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On the off chance this DUmmy isn't lying, I hope Pat will make the decision to kick the habit, seek help, and clean up her life.
If meth was legal, you would take all the profit out, so criminals would leave it alone, then you could put a huge tax on it and use that money for treatment!
::)
If ricin was legal, you would take all the profit out, so criminals would leave it alone, then you could put a huge tax on it and use that money for treatment!
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If meth was legal, you would take all the profit out, so criminals would leave it alone, then you could put a huge tax on it and use that money for treatment!
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If ricin was legal, you would take all the profit out, so criminals would leave it alone, then you could put a huge tax on it and use that money for treatment!
I think you just quoted the first two planks in Ron Paul's campaign platform.
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I think you just quoted the first two planks in Ron Paul's campaign platform.
Dr Nutz is nuts.
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I'd never heard it called "ice" either.
Been called that since the late 80's/early 90's when I was stationed in Hawaii and Guam.
I wouldn't wish meth addiction on my worst enemy. I've seen what it will do to a person close to me. Not going to go into it any worse than that.
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Drugs are weird, By drugs I am speaking of the manufactured stuff that has allways been around.
Chocolate, an off shoot from the bean used to make Coke. Thousands of years old.
We eat poppy seed bagels without a thought that poppies are used to make Opium. Note the Opium wars of the far east in years gone by.
The Spice wars long ago when people would die to ingest a spice from Indonesia.
Even Salt, was paid as wage to workers at one time.
So now at this time what do we do to curb humanity from their drug of choice. It is said the most addicted to humans and animals are salt and sugar.
Nuts, these poisons are sold to the public to get high and take over their lives and mandate their death.
At this time the manufactured drugs have taken over as they are very cheap, and target the youth that is too young to buy booze or cannot afford pot.
Benefits to these killers are no one can tell by smell if they have ingested the drug, cost is about one pack of cigarettes, the manufacture of the drug takes just hours and anyone can do it.
Surprising the number of old folks that can just get by on SS that fear planting pot in the back yard will actually make this devils brew in out back outhouses.
Anyone remember the Prohibition era when outhouse stills in the back woods outfitted their grandkids cars to carry tanks of the moonshine, stuff that caused people to go blind or crazy down the mountain roads with the cops in close persuit.
A few of the drivers became later famous in the world of car racing and later bragged about it after they retired.
How to stop a desire in mankind to quit drugs, A man and woman are now in jail as by their faith they allowed their child to die without medical care. As the child was dieing and being prayed over, both parent --father with abscessed tooth received medical care, Mother went for a Pap smear. :censored: :censored: :censored:
Big question on hard drugs here, if one raises a child in a family that is drug free, is it their peers that take them into the world of darkness????
If I live on a farm and catch my kids out back smoking corn stalks at age 5-----Grandfather story of his youth--- how do I know my kids will not be smoking wild growing weed at that time???
Make Pot leagel and tax the hell out of it, Sell it only at state liquor stores and put a limit on the amount to be bought.
If Pot is a gate way drug, then so is Beer. So are pain medications that are no longer needed, so is aspirin and anything that makes one feel good.
So is sex but one does not have sex a few times and become addicted to it, except---May as well admitted it I'M addicted to Love.
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^^^ this is why we don't do drugs, kids.
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^^^ this is why we don't do drugs, kids.
Any questions?
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^^^ this is why we don't do drugs, kids.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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If I live on a farm and catch my kids out back smoking corn stalks at age 5-----Grandfather story of his youth--- how do I know my kids will not be smoking wild growing weed at that time???
If corn stalks were legal, you would take all the profit out, so criminals would leave it alone, then you could put a huge tax on it and use that money for treatment!
If Pot is a gate way drug, then so is Beer. So are pain medications that are no longer needed, so is aspirin and anything that makes one feel good.
If aspirin was legal, you would take all the profit out, so criminals would leave it alone, then you could put a huge tax on it and use that money for treatment!
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If corn stalks were legal, you would take all the profit out, so criminals would leave it alone, then you could put a huge tax on it and use that money for treatment!
If aspirin was legal, you would take all the profit out, so criminals would leave it alone, then you could put a huge tax on it and use that money for treatment!
:lmao:
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I'd never heard it called "ice" either.
I think she means crystal meth which does look like ice.
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How do you smoke cornstalks?
Why would you smoke cornstalks?
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How do you smoke cornstalks?
Why would you smoke cornstalks?
Why did the hippies smoke banana peels--------Because they heard one could get high on it.
This world is infatuated with conscious altering items.
A friend of mine was telling of a Thanks Giving dinner at a relatives home, as the conversation went back and forth she found most everyone at the table of 20 or so was on some kind of antidepressants except she and Husband.
She was horrified to find even some of the kids and grandkids were taking some kind of drug to make it easier for the family and schools to control them.
What got to her the most however were a couple of old timers taken from nursing homes for the dinner were also so druged they had little idea what was going on.
Very strange that the Adults taking mind altering drugs for life it seems were so anti pot that is not a drug that one cannot just stop taking when they wish to.
Like the Methodone clinics that deal out a drug that becomes a life time necessity to keep people off Herion ----this sounds a bit crazy to me. Ever known anyone that Methodone saved their lives for the better????
We are Ginnie pigs for the chemical industry today. Ask your Doctor for such and such a pill we hear on TV every day, then next AD is for a lawyers Office telling us that if we have taken close to the same drug with horrid results to call them for a class action suit.
-----Oh Doctor please, some more of these, behind the door, mothers cry for more, What a drag it is getting OLD.-------
Before we rant about the illegal drugs out there we should check into the number of drug stores that are held up every day by people that demand at gun point the legal RX drugs
Crazy world out there.
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A few of the drivers became later famous in the world of car racing and later bragged about it after they retired.
So is sex but one does not have sex a few times and become addicted to it, except---May as well admitted it I'M addicted to Love.
You sayin Speedy Gonzoles is going to one day be a marathon runner? (Don't think you can even find a pic of Speedy any more, not PC )
Now about that sex addiction...what's love got to do with it?
BTW Just a bit off topic: RonPaul is running a great ad campaign. The RNC should be running it. Love them or hate them you have to give the Ronulans their due, the make a great ad. :panic:
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Why did the hippies smoke banana peels--------Because they heard one could get high on it.
This world is infatuated with conscious altering items.
A friend of mine was telling of a Thanks Giving dinner at a relatives home, as the conversation went back and forth she found most everyone at the table of 20 or so was on some kind of antidepressants except she and Husband.
She was horrified to find even some of the kids and grandkids were taking some kind of drug to make it easier for the family and schools to control them.
What got to her the most however were a couple of old timers taken from nursing homes for the dinner were also so druged they had little idea what was going on.
Very strange that the Adults taking mind altering drugs for life it seems were so anti pot that is not a drug that one cannot just stop taking when they wish to.
Like the Methodone clinics that deal out a drug that becomes a life time necessity to keep people off Herion ----this sounds a bit crazy to me. Ever known anyone that Methodone saved their lives for the better????
We are Ginnie pigs for the chemical industry today. Ask your Doctor for such and such a pill we hear on TV every day, then next AD is for a lawyers Office telling us that if we have taken close to the same drug with horrid results to call them for a class action suit.
-----Oh Doctor please, some more of these, behind the door, mothers cry for more, What a drag it is getting OLD.-------
Before we rant about the illegal drugs out there we should check into the number of drug stores that are held up every day by people that demand at gun point the legal RX drugs
Crazy world out there.
Why did I know that you'd respond to GOBUCKS with an "offbeat" response? :???: ::)