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Title: DUde on McConnell/Reid plan
Post by: MoshMasterD on July 16, 2011, 02:42:04 PM
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Stinky The Clown  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jul-16-11 12:31 PM
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The McConnell/Reid plan . . . or is it the Reid McConnell plan? Is this a good idea?
 The essence of the plan is to give Obama the unilateral ability to raise the debt ceiling in exchange for the repubicans having the absolute right to vote down any tax increases he proposes.

Reid and McConnell have proffered this as a bipartisan "Plan B."

To my mind, this is a "Plan B for Backstabbing."

There is no way on gawd's green Earth McConnell would do this unless he saw it as a repubican win or a way to trap the Democrats for purely partisan gain. McConnell has no principles and isn't a teabagger. He is simply a hardball playing partisan who wants to win. He doesn't care *what* he wins, so long as it is a win.

Reid, in my view, long ago wore out his welcome as a "leader." He's as useful as teats on a bull.
 
Title: Re: DUde on McConnell/Reid plan
Post by: formerlurker on July 16, 2011, 02:50:18 PM
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Title: Re: DUde on McConnell/Reid plan
Post by: franksolich on July 16, 2011, 05:37:54 PM
I dunno; seriously, I suspect it's a game to stymie the Dems, and if so, I'm all for it.
Title: Re: DUde on McConnell/Reid plan
Post by: diesel driver on July 16, 2011, 06:39:42 PM
I dunno; seriously, I suspect it's a game to stymie the Dems, and if so, I'm all for it.

The BEST way to do that is for the House to pass a bill stating military, Social Security, Medicare, and interest on the debt will be paid FIRST, and what's left over to whatever. 

DARE the Senate and Zero to vote it down/veto it, then scream that it's the Demonrats that want to kill SS, etc.

Zero painted himself into a corner BIG time with his "I don't know if SS checks will go out after August 2nd.  I say we use it as a club to pummel the crap out of him and the Senate.
Title: Re: DUde on McConnell/Reid plan
Post by: Airwolf on July 16, 2011, 07:27:25 PM
Stinkdude you really need to leave politics to the grown ups.
Title: Re: DUde on McConnell/Reid plan
Post by: BlueStateSaint on July 16, 2011, 08:15:00 PM
The BEST way to do that is for the House to pass a bill stating military, Social Security, Medicare, and interest on the debt will be paid FIRST, and what's left over to whatever. 

DARE the Senate and Zero to vote it down/veto it, then scream that it's the Demonrats that want to kill SS, etc.

Zero painted himself into a corner BIG time with his "I don't know if SS checks will go out after August 2nd.  I say we use it as a club to pummel the crap out of him and the Senate.

An H5 from me.  Eric Cantor would do exactly this, IMO.