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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Tess Anderson on July 15, 2011, 02:21:48 PM
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Fri Jul-15-11 01:16 PM
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isn't it time for a tax on sodas, bottled water drinks and sports drinks?
How many billions of dollars would a 4 cent tax on those three catagories raise?
How many billions of soda cups, bottles and cans are used monthly in America? How many billion bottles of water and flavored waters? How many billion bottles of gatorade?
How many billions of dollars are raised by taxes on cigs and booze?
Why not tax these other beverages? They aren't essential or nutritious.
Why not?????????
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:overreaction:
Excess punctuation. She must be series.
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Alas, nobody on the thread liked her idea. You see, they like their bottled beverages. Go away and tax someone else.
The hapless Gov. Patterson tried this, and got nowhere.
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As long as that idea doesn't apply to beer we're all good.
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Poor people are the ones who consume that type fluid the most. Why does Grasswire hate poor people? :shrug:
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As long as that idea doesn't apply to beer we're all good.
H5
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A companion thread,
MinneapolisMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-15-11 01:27 PM
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How about a fast-food tax?
We all know it's trash for your body. That should be given a sin-tax.
I feel that bad eating habits are nipping at the heels of smoking as far as health care costs go.
Wanna feed your kids a happy meal? Fine. But pay a 5% tax on your bill. Lords knows smokers and drinkers have been funding the government for years. Why should unhealthy junk food be any different?
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Shandris (676 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-15-11 01:38 PM
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6. How about 'No', 'Invite me over to see what YOUR lifestyle needs taxed' (n/t)
:lmao:
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How about a very high tax on organic foods? I mean come on, it would not be a regressive tax hitting low income people. It would hit those food snobs that won't shop at their local giant chain food stores. :fuelfire:
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My energy drinks are already taxed at .12 cents a can. STFU, Dummie. Can we start taxing your stupidity? Think of how much money that would bring in.
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A tax on organic food would be an unfair burden on the DUmbest among us. After all, they're already paying double for inferior produce.
I say we need a pie tax.
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My energy drinks are already taxed at .12 cents a can. STFU, Dummie. Can we start taxing your stupidity? Think of how much money that would bring in.
The only problem is, due to their stupidity, they don't have any money for us to tax. :-)
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Isn't it time to tax all posts made at the DUmp? Except those made by moles, of course.
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I say we need a pie tax.
Odd; I was thinking exactly the same thing before I saw your comment, sir.
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Kalifornia alredy does it's called the CRV. The CRV tax is 5 cents for any can, bottle, plastic container at 12 ounces and 10 cents for any over 12 ounces. The best part? The CRV is also taxed by the sales tax.
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As long as that idea doesn't apply to beer we're all good.
I dunno about over there but beer is taxed quite heavily already here. Not as much as spirits or tobacco, but still not an insubstantial amount.
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I dunno about over there but beer is taxed quite heavily already here. Not as much as spirits or tobacco, but still not an insubstantial amount.
I think he was referring to it not being taxed solely because of the container it's in...
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If DUmp democrats would send in the applicable sales tax on the illegal drugs they buy, blue states would be rolling in money.
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I dunno about over there but beer is taxed quite heavily already here. Not as much as spirits or tobacco, but still not an insubstantial amount.
Yes, I know.
Every year it goes up.
Can't even buy a brick for under $40AUD anymore. (brick=case)
Fifteen to sixteen bucks for a bloody six pack. :banghead:
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Fri Jul-15-11 01:16 PM
Original message
isn't it time for a tax on sodas, bottled water drinks and sports drinks?
How many billions of dollars would a 4 cent tax on those three catagories raise?
How many billions of soda cups, bottles and cans are used monthly in America? How many billion bottles of water and flavored waters? How many billion bottles of gatorade?
How many billions of dollars are raised by taxes on cigs and booze?
Why not tax these other beverages? They aren't essential or nutritious.
Why not?????????
Isn't it about time for a tax on welfare? They tax unemployment, so why not welfare? They tax SS, unless you were worthless and didn't save for your retirement, so why not welfare, food stamps, medicaid, HUD, etc?
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Yes, I know.
Every year it goes up.
Can't even buy a brick for under $40AUD anymore. (brick=case)
Fifteen to sixteen bucks for a bloody six pack. :banghead:
My favourite cheap domestic swill is circa $40 for a 30 pack of cans.
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My favourite cheap domestic swill is circa $40 for a 30 pack of cans.
From the man that knows.
I tip one for the man from Oz. :cheersmate:
Step away from the VB, mate.
XXXX heavy is mine.
Please don't say say Cascade. :lmao:
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From the man that knows.
I tip one for the man from Oz. :cheersmate:
Step away from the VB, mate.
XXXX heavy is mine.
Please don't say say Cascade. :lmao:
XXXX heavy is good , but I'm more partial to Tooheys New.
VB is just Very Bad. It's sheeps piss and formaldehyde repackaged. There are several other fairly colourful terms for it that I won't use here.
Cascade is for damn hippies and beer snobs.
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XXXX heavy is good , but I'm more partial to Tooheys New.
VB is just Very Bad. It's sheeps piss and formaldehyde repackaged. There are several other fairly colourful terms for it that I won't use here.
Cascade is for damn hippies and beer snobs.
:rotf: I know VB, as Vomit Bomb.
Tooheys is good. Don't mind it a bit.
Still prefer heavy when I'm down your way for ANZAC.
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XXXX heavy is good , but I'm more partial to Tooheys New.
VB is just Very Bad. It's sheeps piss and formaldehyde repackaged. There are several other fairly colourful terms for it that I won't use here.
Cascade is for damn hippies and beer snobs.
You all have a beer named Cascade? Because that's dishwasher cleaning solution here in the states. Not sure if I'd pour a tall glass of that.
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As long as that idea doesn't apply to beer we're all good.
Or for the DUmmies: "As long as that idea doesn't apply to pot, we're all good."
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You all have a beer named Cascade? Because that's dishwasher cleaning solution here in the states. Not sure if I'd pour a tall glass of that.
Yes they do.
It's fairly low on the fun stuff.
Pound a dozen, and you can still walk.
Sort of. :-)
Not a bad swill.
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You all have a beer named Cascade? Because that's dishwasher cleaning solution here in the states. Not sure if I'd pour a tall glass of that.
It's from Tasmania - our version of Arkansas.
It's expensive and generally only drunk by effeminate males and beer snobs.
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It's from Tasmania - our version of Arkansas.
It's expensive and generally only drunk by effeminate males and beer snobs.
Sounds like Zima, don't know if it's still around though.
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Lets tax "spare time"....it'll hit the DUmmies the hardest and may force them to get off their asses and get a job. ....of course it's going to hit me kindda hard too but I'm willing to pay it. :-)
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Fri Jul-15-11 01:16 PM
Original message
isn't it time for a tax on sodas, bottled water drinks and sports drinks?
How many billions of dollars would a 4 cent tax on those three catagories raise?
How many billions of soda cups, bottles and cans are used monthly in America? How many billion bottles of water and flavored waters? How many billion bottles of gatorade?
How many billions of dollars are raised by taxes on cigs and booze?
Why not tax these other beverages? They aren't essential or nutritious.
Why not?????????
So if I am out working in the heat and sweating what should I reach for to replenish essential electrolytes? A sports drink (cut in half with water is best) is going to be the best thing to get those levels back up.
But I guess you only want to punish working people.
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It's from Tasmania - our version of Arkansas.
It's expensive and generally only drunk by effeminate males and beer snobs.
Our version is any beer that is either imported, or has a cutesy name.
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LC,
Can you brew your own beer over there? Over here, you can brew up to 100-200 gallons per year for personal consumption. :cheersmate: :cheers1:
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LC,
Can you brew your own beer over there? Over here, you can brew up to 100-200 gallons per year for personal consumption. :cheersmate: :cheers1:
So far as I'm aware there is no limit to the amount of home brewed beer and wine that one can produce provided that you don't sell even a single drop.
There's two speciality brew shops in town that sell everything for brewing, kegging and distilling* your own booze and every supermarket carries a limited selection of beer brewing ingredients and supplies.
* Producing spirits is illegal but sale of the stills to produce it , and the flavouring packs and oak chips and such forth isn't. Go figure.
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My energy drinks are already taxed at .12 cents a can. STFU, Dummie. Can we start taxing your stupidity? Think of how much money that would bring in.
It'd eliminate the national debt, for starters.
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Alas, nobody on the thread liked her idea. You see, they like their bottled beverages. Go away and tax someone else.
The hapless Gov. Patterson tried this, and got nowhere.
They also did it in Commiefornia. And let's not get started on the Masshole hero, "Mumbles" Menino.
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DUmb, DUmbs, since we already double, triple, and quadruple tax everything and STILL don't have "enough", what makes you idiots think it'll make any difference?
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$40 a case?! :o I would definitely take up brewing as a hobby. I once did, it was kinda fun, like cooking.
I get a case for $20 or less.
GOBUCKS, does LaBatts Blue count as an import, if Canada is a stones throw away from me?
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GOBUCKS, does LaBatts Blue count as an import, if Canada is a stones throw away from me?
Yes, it's an import, but it's good for keeping aphids off your roses.
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$40 a case?! :o I would definitely take up brewing as a hobby. I once did, it was kinda fun, like cooking.
I get a case for $20 or less.
GOBUCKS, does LaBatts Blue count as an import, if Canada is a stones throw away from me?
One of the things I do miss about CA is the fact that there aren't any DIY breweries in NH or Maine that I'm aware of. Those places were great. You go in, buy the size of batch you want, cook it up in the steam kettles, grind the grains they give you, add hops, etc. THEY do the cleanup, and in a couple of weeks, you come back and bottle it all. No preservatives, so you've got to drink it all in about 3-4 weeks. Did I mention you get to "sample" stuff as you're brewing and bottling?
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One of the things I do miss about CA is the fact that there aren't any DIY breweries in NH or Maine that I'm aware of. Those places were great. You go in, buy the size of batch you want, cook it up in the steam kettles, grind the grains they give you, add hops, etc. THEY do the cleanup, and in a couple of weeks, you come back and bottle it all. No preservatives, so you've got to drink it all in about 3-4 weeks. Did I mention you get to "sample" stuff as you're brewing and bottling?
I always looked at home brewing like homemade pizza, or roll-your-own cigarettes, or barbecue sauce.
Why do it when there are products available that people have spent decades and millions of dollars to perfect?
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MinneapolisMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Jul-15-11 01:27 PM
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How about a fast-food tax? We all know it's trash for your body. That should be given a sin-tax.
Wanna feed your kids a happy meal? Fine. But pay a 5% tax on your bill.
Hey DUmmie Matt. You know we live in the United States Of America, correct? We do have freedoms here to think eat, think, and say, to an extent, what you want.
So,....how about you take your communist ass to China or Venezuela? I'll even pay for your one way ticket. I bet you beg to come back. :wink:
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Hey DUmmie Matt. You know we live in the United States Of America, correct? We do have freedoms here to think eat, think, and say, to an extent, what you want.
So,....how about you take your communist ass to China or Venezuela? I'll even pay for your one way ticket. I bet you beg to come back. :wink:
Is that why we have such high taxes on tobacco and alcohol? Sin taxes have long been used for controlling social behaviors. The left wants high gas taxes just for that reason.
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Is that why we have such high taxes on tobacco and alcohol? Sin taxes have long been used for controlling social behaviors. The left wants high gas taxes just for that reason.
Exactly my point - "controlling".
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I always looked at home brewing like homemade pizza, or roll-your-own cigarettes, or barbecue sauce.
Why do it when there are products available that people have spent decades and millions of dollars to perfect?
Price and taste.
I'd put my home made pizza up against anything you can get from any chain store pizza any day. It's also cheaper.
I roll my own smokes because tailor made ones taste totally different and are double the price.
I brew my own booze because not only is it cheaper and better tasting, but by doing so I cheat the government out of taxation revenue.
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LC,
Can you brew your own beer over there? Over here, you can brew up to 100-200 gallons per year for personal consumption. :cheersmate: :cheers1:
The only one good thing Jimmy Carter ever did.
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I always looked at home brewing like homemade pizza, or roll-your-own cigarettes, or barbecue sauce.
Why do it when there are products available that people have spent decades and millions of dollars to perfect?
Because "Perfected" is a pretty relative term. Beers have a very wide variety of tastes and appearances, 95% of domestic beer is 30 different labels on the same stuff, a light-colored slightly-sour-tasting lager in regular or 'Diet' versions. Until American beer tastes like a not-too-hoppy amber-colored Pilsner, I don't regard it as 'Perfected.'
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Because "Perfected" is a pretty relative term. Beers have a very wide variety of tastes and appearances, 95% of domestic beer is 30 different labels on the same stuff, a light-colored slightly-sour-tasting lager in regular or 'Diet' versions. Until American beer tastes like a not-too-hoppy amber-colored Pilsner, I don't regard it as 'Perfected.'
I guess taste is about as individual a thing as there is. I've only tried maybe a half-dozen homebrewed concoctions over the years, but could never handle more than a couple of sips. Nasty. I have maybe a half-dozen brands of American mass-produced beers that I think are as good as beer can be, and none that I really dislike. (Of course, the worst-tasting beverage I've ever run across is Genesee Cream Ale, and that's mass-produced.)
Same with homemade pizza. For my taste, no one has ever made a pizza in their kitchen remotely as good as Pizza Hut.
Give me a Pizza Hut pan pizza with a half dozen toppings, a six-pack of Rolling Rock, and a bag of chips. Then come back tomorrow with the same thing.
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worst-tasting beverage I've ever run across is Genesee Cream Ale
The worst? Ever try Naragansett (AKA Nastygansett)? How about Mabel Black Label, which they probably don't make anymore.
My mom used to drink Genny Cream Ale, she loved it. Then again, she liked Old Mil Lite. Not a connoisseur. :lmao:
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The worst? Ever try Naragansett (AKA Nastygansett)? How about Mabel Black Label, which they probably don't make anymore.
My mom used to drink Genny Cream Ale, she loved it. Then again, she liked Old Mil Lite. Not a connoisseur.
I'm old enough to have ordered a Black Label using the whistle, even though the bartender was an old Lebanese guy.
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The worst? Ever try Naragansett (AKA Nastygansett)? How about Mabel Black Label, which they probably don't make anymore.
My mom used to drink Genny Cream Ale, she loved it. Then again, she liked Old Mil Lite. Not a connoisseur. :lmao:
My grandfather drank Colt .45. That and Buckhorn were the worst. College days? Schaffer, or as their ads say, "The beer to have when you're having more than one."
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I was bored and picked up a few cans of the new beer Walgreens is selling. It's been a while since I've had really bad beer, but that stuff definitely qualifies.
It was slightly more than $3 for a six-pack.
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Believe me, I won't turn down a cold major-label beer, especially if someone else is buying and driving, I just like a quality Pilsner or Dunkel better!
The nastiest beer I ever had is one that I believe isn't made anymore, it was a Schlitz Lite...I couldn't finish it, and that was after coming in from a week in the field on a tank in the Summer, and the beer was even cool, so you know how nasty it was.
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the worst-tasting beverage I've ever run across is Genesee Cream Ale
We called 'em "Genny Screamers" in college. That's what the hangover was wanting you to do, from the pain of the throbbing headache.
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I was bored and picked up a few cans of the new beer Walgreens is selling. It's been a while since I've had really bad beer, but that stuff definitely qualifies.
It was slightly more than $3 for a six-pack.
That's a level of boredom even I don't want to be able to fathom.
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I was bored and picked up a few cans of the new beer Walgreens is selling. It's been a while since I've had really bad beer, but that stuff definitely qualifies.
It was slightly more than $3 for a six-pack.
I had never heard of this before. Nadin is inactive today, so the google is running fast, and I checked. Apparently this beer has been
ridiculed by Stephen Colbert. That's good enough for me. I'll try a six-pack, if Walgreen's sells beer here in red state hell.
Just went back to the google, and see a ton of negative beer snob reviews. I'll try a twelve-pack.
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It is pretty gross. This stuff makes Natural Light taste like champagne in comparison.
I tried Gennessee. It wasn't awful.
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Anybody remember Mickey's Bigmouths? I drank those in college. Loved em.
This thread has seriously derailed. :lmao:
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It is pretty gross. This stuff makes Natural Light taste like champagne in comparison.
I tried Gennessee. It wasn't awful.
Their beer is okay. Try the Cream Ale.