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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on April 23, 2008, 12:18:16 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5642962
I dunno about anybody else, but I'm inclined to promote the taxing primitive from the unterprimitiven, the lynch mob, clear up past the third-tier primitives and the second-tier primitives, into first-tier primitivity.
Taxmyth (746 posts) Wed Apr-23-08 10:55 AM
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Advanced Mathematics for Senator Obama supporters
Pay attention now children. We have learned in basic mathematics that 1+1=2. But most real world usage of mathematics involves what is known as a "variable". Sometimes this "variable" is assigned a value, or that value can be easily determined and sometimes it is an "unknown variable".
For example: Barack has 1714 delegates and needs 2024 to win the nomination. Hillary has 1584 delegates and needs 2024 to win the nomination. John has 18 and this is a "known variable". A simple equation using variables would look like this:
Barack: 1714 + X = 2024
Hillary: 1584 + X = 2024
To solve for X we need to isolate the variable on one side of the equation. To do this we simply subtract the 1714 from both sides of the equation for Barack and we have X= 310. Using the same method for Hillary we find that X= 440. Very simple, right children?
Now we are going to make things a little more difficult. We are going to introduce the concept of the "unknown variable". Suppose there are a substantial group of delegates that have not been assigned to either Barack or Hillary. We will assign this group the letter Y. This is how the equations now look:
1714 + (X + Y) = 2024 and 1584 + (X + Y) = 2024. We have already determined the value of X but how do we determine the value of Y?
We know from our reading that Y is composed of two subgroups: Pledged delegates and Super delegates. We will assign the subgroup of Pledged delegates the value of A and we will assign the subgroup of Super delegates the value of B. Our equations now look like this:
1714 + (X + Y) = 2024 - (A + B) and 1584 + (X + Y) = 2024 - (A + B)
We know from our reading that the Pledged delegates variable A will be defined at a later date and will be easily determined at that date. What about the Super Delegate variable B? Now our equation becomes even more difficult. We also know from our reading that some of the Super delegates have thrown their support towards either Barack or Hillary and others will follow before we can determine the value of A. We will assign this subgroup the variable of C. But what of the others? We will assign the remaining Superdelegates the value of D. Now our equations look like this:
1714 + (X + Y) = 2024 - (A + B) + (C + D) and 1584 + (X + Y) = 2024 - (A + B) + (C + D)
Yes, for you children that have read ahead, we can simplify this equation considerably but for right now, let's keep it this way.
As we have learned, the value of C should be known close to the time that we have finalized the variable A. But how do we determine the value of the variable D? Here is where the mathematics involved becomes extremely difficult. We know from our past experience and reading that the value of the variable D is effected by an infinite number of additional variables. Electability, popular vote, Florida and Michigan, scandals, heroics, ad infinitum. The variable D is completely unknown at this time and may not be known until a specific time frame, in this case August 25 - 28, 2008.
This children, is actually a very simple mathematical equation involving the use of variables. When we begin to work on the complexities of solving for the variable D in this equation over the coming weeks, we will introduce the use of multiplication and division using variables.
Your homework for tonight is to visit the Hillary Clinton website and donate. And don't forget, we have a test in two weeks.
The bonfire's pretty big, but no point in bothering rowing over there to see it on Skins's island, as the Obamaite primitives are utterly unfamiliar with mathematics, and their heads get messed up royally trying to figure things out.
mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 12:43 PM
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99. K'd and R'd to show how Clintonistas think. Here are the real numbers--
These are projections based on Obama's poll numbers.
Clinton. . . .Obama
KY 37 . . . . .16
WV 22 . . . . 11
NC .55 . . . . 70
IN . 39 . . . . 43
OR .28 . . . . 34
MT . .8 . . . . .5
SD . .8 . . . ..11
. . . 197 . . .190
Clinton gains maybe seven delegates by the time the convention rolls around, and Obama is still ahead by some 150 delegates.
Plus, it gives only about three months for Obama to campaign nationally against McCain.
Somebody who believes in party and principle would have dropped out by now.
That's not Clinton.
It's obviously not Barry "Goldwater" Obama, either, who should be a man and throw in the towel, for the good of the Democrat party.
The Obamaite primitives keep on forgetting something--while the Obamaite primitives insist Messalina Agrippina can't win the Democrat nomination with those few delegates left to be selected.....at the same time omitting to remember that Barry "Goldwater" Obama can't, either.
Stupid primitives. Really stupid primitives. Just really stupid primitives.
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Barack: 1714 + X = 2024
Hillary: 1584 + X = 2024
To solve for X we need to isolate the variable on one side of the equation. To do this we simply subtract the 1714 from both sides of the equation for Barack and we have X= 310. Using the same method for Hillary we find that X= 440. Very simple, right children?
We know the value of X is the difference between the stated principle and the answer, so how, in the extended example, can Y be added to X and still equal the stated answer without changing the value of X?
Am I missing something?
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Barack: 1714 + X = 2024
Hillary: 1584 + X = 2024
To solve for X we need to isolate the variable on one side of the equation. To do this we simply subtract the 1714 from both sides of the equation for Barack and we have X= 310. Using the same method for Hillary we find that X= 440. Very simple, right children?
We know the value of X is the difference between the stated principle and the answer, so how, in the extended example, can Y be added to X and still equal the stated answer without changing the value of X?
Am I missing something?
Might I interject a premise as to how this can happen:
DUmmy math test:
1. Duane has an AK47 with a 30 round clip. If he misses 6 out of 10 shots and shoots 13 times at each drive by shooting, how many drive by shootings can he attempt before he has to reload?
2. If Jose has two ounces of cocaine and he sells an 8 ball to Jackson for $320 and 2 grams to Billy for $85 per gram, what is the street value of the balance of the cocaine if he doesn't cut it?
3. Rufus is pimping for three girls. If the price is $65 for each trick, how many tricks will each girl have to turn so Rufus can pay for his $800 per day crack habit?
4. Jarome wants to cut his 1/2 pound of Heroin to make 20% more profit. How many ounces of cut will he need?
5. Willie gets $200 for stealing a BMW, $50 for a Chevy and $100 for a 4x4. If he has stolen 2 BMW's and 3 4x4's, how many Chevy's will he have to steal to make $800?
6. Raoul is in prison for 6 years for murder. He got $10,000 for the hit. If his common law wife is spending $100 per month, how much money will he have left when he gets out of prison and how many years will he get for killing her since she spent his money?
7. If the average spray paint can covers 22 square feet and the average letter is 3 square feet, how many letters can a tagger spray with 3 cans of paint?
8. Hector knocked up six girls in his gang. There are 27 girls in the gang. What percentage of the girls in the gang has Hector knocked up?
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 12:43 PM
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99. K'd and R'd to show how Clintonistas think. Here are the real numbers--
These are projections based on Obama's poll numbers.
Clinton gains maybe seven delegates by the time the convention rolls around, and Obama is still ahead by some 150 delegates.
Plus, it gives only about three months for Obama to campaign nationally against McCain.
Your right frank. Obamaite primitives are pretty bad at math. Especially if they think August 28th to November 4th is "about three months".
:-)
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I love it when the 'gifted and talented' at the DUmp show us how superior they are. :lmao:
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 12:43 PM
Response to Original message
99. K'd and R'd to show how Clintonistas think. Here are the real numbers--
These are projections based on Obama's poll numbers.
Clinton gains maybe seven delegates by the time the convention rolls around, and Obama is still ahead by some 150 delegates.
Plus, it gives only about three months for Obama to campaign nationally against McCain.
Your right frank. Obamaite primitives are pretty bad at math. Especially if they think August 28th to November 4th is "about three months".
:-)
Three business months, maybe . . .
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Barack: 1714 + X = 2024
Hillary: 1584 + X = 2024
To solve for X we need to isolate the variable on one side of the equation. To do this we simply subtract the 1714 from both sides of the equation for Barack and we have X= 310. Using the same method for Hillary we find that X= 440. Very simple, right children?
We know the value of X is the difference between the stated principle and the answer, so how, in the extended example, can Y be added to X and still equal the stated answer without changing the value of X?
Am I missing something?
No, you are right on the money, the primitive screwed it up by shifting the meaning of the variables as the supposed elaboration (which actually became an obfuscation) proceeded. Even earlier than the flaw you mention is the fact that the dope used X to mean two different numbers, it should have at least used some differentiator like "X-sub-h" and "X-sub-o."