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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOBUCKS on July 13, 2011, 04:03:20 PM
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Now the Land of Homos is deciding to become more criminal-friendly.
Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-13-11 04:21 PM
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S.F. considering making ex-cons a protected class for renting / jobs
S.F. weighs protecting ex-cons seeking homes, jobs
Ex-convicts may soon become a "protected class" in San Francisco - joining African Americans, Latinos, gays, transgender people, pregnant women and the disabled.
A proposal being circulated at City Hall would make it illegal for landlords and employers to discriminate against applicants solely because they were "previously incarcerated."
Sex offenders and perpetrators of some violent crimes would not be covered.
It would also be illegal to ask anyone about their criminal past on an initial job or housing application.
"The mechanics still need to be worked out," said Supervisor and sheriff candidate Ross Mirkarimi.
"This is a very important discussion on the eve of an immense state prisoner realignment that's going to return hundreds of prisoners back to San Francisco," Mirkarimi said.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/0...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1483198
Soon, every type of undesireable will be "protected" in Sodomy City. If everyone is protected, then anyone who fails to get a job can sue the employer. I guess I don't really care, since the only employers still in San Francisco are the all-male bathhouses and AIDS clinics.
It's sort of like little Rindge, New Hampshire, home of the plagiarist Pitt's mother, a democrat heaven on earth where everyone works for the city.
AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-13-11 04:23 PM
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1. For too long ex-cons have had to deal with rules and regulations
that made their integration back into society impossible.
I'm a proud San Franciscan.
I think dealing with rules and regulations is how they became convicts in the first place.
kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-13-11 04:24 PM
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2. Good. I always wondered why we insist on treating ex-cons like second-class
citizens long after they have supposedly paid their debt to society in full.....
Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-13-11 04:24 PM
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3. I don't have a problem with this
If convicts who have served their time and paid their price to society cannot re-integrate into the community, they will obviously have a higher rate of recidivism.
Obviously this cannot apply to violent or sexual offenders...but for non-violent crime? Absolutely.
I never got this "debt to society" bullshit. Criminals were behind bars as punishment for their crimes, not as a "payment" to decent society.
When they get out of the slammer, they are no less criminal than when they entered.
They've proven by their actions they are a predator class, to whom no special accommodations should be provided.
They haven't paid a debt, they're simply criminals who are no longer in jail.
FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-13-11 04:31 PM
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4. Only uncircumcised ex-cons will be protected, however.
RandySF (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-13-11 04:41 PM
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5. I thought they were already protected by Federal law?
Also, what about certain sex offenders?
Thanks, DUmmy RandySF! Now we know your "SF" stands for "sex felon".
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I never got this "debt to society" bullshit. Criminals were behind bars as punishment for their crimes, not as a "payment" to decent society.
When they get out of the slammer, they are no less criminal than when they entered.
They've proven by their actions they are a predator class, to whom no special accommodations should be provided.
They haven't paid a debt, they're simply criminals who are no longer in jail.
I got to disagree with ya here GBucks. If someone commits a crime, did their time, they should be given the chance to turn their life around. I ain't saying special treatment, but people do give in to temptation. Even God will forgive. If it is good enough for the big guy upstairs, it's good enough for me.
I draw the line at pedophiles and rapists. That bunch of subhuman scum should die the most horrible death possible.
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I got to disagree with ya here GBucks. If someone commits a crime, did their time, they should be given the chance to turn their life around.
If I'm a business owner, I say a thief should turn his life around, but not handling money in my store.
He's already proven himself a thief. This moonbat law would force me to hire him.
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If I'm a business owner, I say a thief should turn his life around, but not handling money in my store.
He's already proven himself a thief. This moonbat law would force me to hire him.
Not to mention it would make it illegal for you to ask what crime they committed. You wouldn't know if you shouldn't have them around money or your customers when they are alone.
KC
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I never got this "debt to society" bullshit. Criminals were behind bars as punishment for their crimes, not as a "payment" to decent society.
When they get out of the slammer, they are no less criminal than when they entered.
They've proven by their actions they are a predator class, to whom no special accommodations should be provided.
They haven't paid a debt, they're simply criminals who are no longer in jail.
I don't really agree with this assessment either. When people get out of the slammer, in many cases they are indeed less criminal than when they went in. That's really the point of jail. When I was young and dumb I spent 10 days in jail for a DUI, ten days in jail feels like three months, it absolutely sucks . Trust me when I say I haven't driven drunk since and won't be driving drunk ever again.
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I'm beginning to think the muzzies have one thing right, their criminal punishment system. Steal something and get your hand cut off. Simple, quick, and most importantly CHEAP. No medical other than some gauze and tape after cauterizing. No need to feed the criminal for years nor give them Cadillac health care.
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If I'm a business owner, I say a thief should turn his life around, but not handling money in my store.
He's already proven himself a thief. This moonbat law would force me to hire him.
Maybe ya misunderstood my point there GoBucks. I said they should not get any special treatment and I agree with you on a law forcing you to hire them. I disagreed with you on the "always a criminal" part of your statement.
It should be up to you to hire them if you want to.
It's all good though. :cheersmate: