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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on July 10, 2011, 05:39:07 PM
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LongTomH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jul-10-11 06:07 PM
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Have you noted that the trolls are now equating Democracy with Socialism?
This was actually a comment for the YouTube NASAtelevision video of the Space Station Expedition 28 Crew greeting the crew of Atlantis:
and from your profile i see that you support democracy.democracy is a socialist wet dream,they can vote in people who give them free stuff.sounds much like your generation.
Is this a new meme among far, far, far right, or is this guy an outlier? If he's an outlier, maybe he's a sign of things to come among the wingnuts.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1459743
marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jul-10-11 06:09 PM
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1. At least they're now admitting that they don't believe in democracy. Updated at 11:53 AM
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Considering we are not a democracy that isn't a bad thing.
LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jul-10-11 06:11 PM
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2. Yes. I've seen this, and yes, it is the new meme from the right. They want
a right-wing dictatorship. They do NOT want democracy. And they have no shame about admitting that.
Yep we want a right wing dictatorship, one where the govt butts out of our lives, stays out of our checkbooks, and let's us live the lives we choose.
kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jul-10-11 06:14 PM
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6. The christofascists and Dominionists want a return to, at the very least,
the way the Founding Fathers had it: one household - one vote; and slaves 3/5 of a person, with no vote at all.
Of course, some want Leviticus, where nobody ever heard of voting.
The more common thing is for them to loudly proclaim that any taxation whatsoever (well, except taxation of the poor and liberals) is equal to communism
Not any taxation, just high taxes and the tax code being nothing more than a wealth redistribution scheme.
Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jul-10-11 06:20 PM
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9. This is typical Far Right language.
It's part of their "We're a Republic, not a Democracy" spewage. In their minds "Democracy" means "lazy poor people voting to steal other people's money".
Democracy is 2 wolves and 1 sheep voting for what's for dinner.
Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jul-10-11 06:27 PM
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15. Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting for what's on the menu.
I'm pretty sure I heard that in the sixties and certain by the seventies.
It's not a new meme.
But unlike troof to power and MIHOP, it is real.
AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jul-10-11 06:26 PM
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14. Are they suggesting the US Constitution was
written by and for Socialists? Maybe they just want it to be true so bad, so they have something to complain about.
What exactly in the constitution resembles socialism?
Everything the Constitution spells out, pretty much bans socialism.
I'm guessing you think the US is a democracy.
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Have you noted that the trolls are now equating Democratics with Socialism?
Ever heard of the saying -- "if the shoe fits".
How about the old duck one?
BTW, fixed it a little for ya.
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-10-11 07:02 PM
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25. Don't read too much in to his comment. It's the result of a malformed medulla oblongata.
Or perhaps he simply has a lot of teeth and no toothbrush.
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-10-11 07:34 PM
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27. Youtube is full of actual Nazis.
They leak out of stormfront.
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Two comments one after the other: The first from master race member lumberjack_jeff about the inferior brain of the youtube comment that started it all. The next from Starry Messenger projecting Nazism.
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one household - one vote
Wouldn't go so well for some dummies. Buick's don't count as a house.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jul-10-11 06:14 PM
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6. The christofascists and Dominionists want a return to, at the very least,
the way the Founding Fathers had it: one household - one vote; and slaves 3/5 of a person, with no vote at all.
Of course, some want Leviticus, where nobody ever heard of voting.
The more common thing is for them to loudly proclaim that any taxation whatsoever (well, except taxation of the poor and liberals) is equal to communism
Uh, those "Dominionists" are an extremely small segment of Christianity and will never be numerous enough to have any kind of influence.
And that 3/5 of a person...that was done over the objections of those slaveholders who eventually became the DEMOCRAT racists that didn't want to give blacks the vote and when REPUBLICANS did, the racist DEMOCRATS like Algore's father & Senator Byrd (the conscience of the senate...only racist DEMOCRATS would give a klan member that title) voted against it. Byrd was even a grand Keegle or something like that (which I thought was simply vagina exercises until I learned about him and his "white ******s").
That 3/5 of a person was at the behest of those who were against slavery (you know, the ones that become REPUBLICANS...the party of LINCOLN and MLK who freed the slaves and marched to give blacks the right to vote, respectively). It's purpose was to at least give blacks some voice, small though it was and make sure they had constitutional rights with their goal being full rights after they were able to subdue those racist DEMOCRATS.
Oh, show me taxes the poor pay...other than on items like cigarettes which your party insists on as punishment for smoking.
Not one Republican I know objects to paying taxes. Local taxes fund police, fire, parks, etc. that directly benefit the local community and are voted on by the local community. Nor do we have a problem paying federal taxes for those things specifically mandated in the constitution. Perhaps if we weren't paying for exorbitant salaries for redundant government workers we could pay our military (those that put their butts on the line) what congress makes.
By the way, you ignorant slug, we live in a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. Democracy ends up being no more than mob rule.
Also, you should know, most ancient societies had similar rules for voting. Leviticus simply gave people a code to live by. It sounds foreign and restrictive to modern society but tribal cultures had to have stricter rules to survive. Look at any of the noble tribal peoples you're always whining about. Study your ****ing history and you won't sound like an idiot when you're trying to be profound.
Cindie
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Damn, I heard that slap all the way down here. :cheersmate:
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Wouldn't go so well for some dummies. Buick's don't count as a house.
I'm afraid the Buick these days smells like Casey Anthony's trunk.
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Uh, those "Dominionists" are an extremely small segment of Christianity and will never be numerous enough to have any kind of influence.
And that 3/5 of a person...that was done over the objections of those slaveholders who eventually became the DEMOCRAT racists that didn't want to give blacks the vote and when REPUBLICANS did, the racist DEMOCRATS like Algore's father & Senator Byrd (the conscience of the senate...only racist DEMOCRATS would give a klan member that title) voted against it. Byrd was even a grand Keegle or something like that (which I thought was simply vagina exercises until I learned about him and his "white ******s").
That 3/5 of a person was at the behest of those who were against slavery (you know, the ones that become REPUBLICANS...the party of LINCOLN and MLK who freed the slaves and marched to give blacks the right to vote, respectively). It's purpose was to at least give blacks some voice, small though it was and make sure they had constitutional rights with their goal being full rights after they were able to subdue those racist DEMOCRATS.
Oh, show me taxes the poor pay...other than on items like cigarettes which your party insists on as punishment for smoking.
Not one Republican I know objects to paying taxes. Local taxes fund police, fire, parks, etc. that directly benefit the local community and are voted on by the local community. Nor do we have a problem paying federal taxes for those things specifically mandated in the constitution. Perhaps if we weren't paying for exorbitant salaries for redundant government workers we could pay our military (those that put their butts on the line) what congress makes.
By the way, you ignorant slug, we live in a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. Democracy ends up being no more than mob rule.
Also, you should know, most ancient societies had similar rules for voting. Leviticus simply gave people a code to live by. It sounds foreign and restrictive to modern society but tribal cultures had to have stricter rules to survive. Look at any of the noble tribal peoples you're always whining about. Study your ****ing history and you won't sound like an idiot when you're trying to be profound.
Cindie
That should hurt so much it would leave a permanant scar.
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You would think those with a superior intellect like the primitives would know what type of government we have. Those dead white guys were pretty smart when they wrote the constitution.
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In a Democracy, the people as a group can vote for any type of economy, just as one could in a Republic. I've never seen anyone equate Democracy with socialism except to note that our gov't has taken on way too many traits of a socialist economy. If the primitives don't like good citizens pointing that out, tough.
If they have to have the word "democracy" in the title, then I'd go with Democratic Republic, but that only distinguishes what type of Republic it is. Only the simpleminded and insecure would feel the need to add the word "democracy" to the title rather than just call it what it is; a Republic.
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