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Title: DU poll- How have you been treated by the courts- You know the answer
Post by: Tucker on July 06, 2011, 12:26:01 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1421650

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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-05-11 08:37 PM
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Poll question: What has your personal experience been with the American justice system?
   
Probably better if you post what your role was than to just rate it. I can't imagine that everyone has had a bad experience, but based on what we are hearing today, you'd think our system was awful.

Were you : A juror, a defendant, a witness, a victim, or in some other courtroom role?

Poll result (101 votes)
Excellent   (5 votes, 5%)   
Very Good   (10 votes, 10%)   
Good   (6 votes, 6%)   
Fair   (7 votes, 7%)   
Not So Good   (10 votes, 10%)   
Bad    (43 votes, 43%)   
Terrible   (8 votes, 8%)   
OTHER   (12 votes, 12%)   

I never would have guessed.  :whistling:

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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-05-11 08:39 PM
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1. Bad! Jury duty.
   
I will do anything I can to get out of it in the future.

Nobody challenged him on that.

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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-05-11 08:51 PM
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6. I voted bad but now that I think about it, my beef was with clerical mistakes
   

The law came out right but because of clerical mistakes by the MVD I had a lot of headaches and was even put in jail over bad paperwork.

Tell that to someone who'll believe it..........................Wait. He did.

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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-05-11 08:59 PM
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10. Been in jail a few times. Longest was just a week so I can't complain.

If he can't complain about being in jail, he's been in more that a few times. He's gotten use to it.

Why am I reminded of Otis on Andy Griffith?

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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Jul-06-11 04:15 AM
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41. try spending that week in tent city in Maricopa County, AZ
   
not horrible, but definitely a bitch!

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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-05-11 09:10 PM
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13. I have
   
been a juror, a victim, a correctional officer, brought a case against someone, played various other parts in the system and also my daughter is an officer (her boyfriend a U.S. Marshall)

the American Justice system is not consistent and often outcomes depend on who you are, how connected you are, how much money you have, etc, etc... I never want to be involved with our justice system again... sometimes it is great and fair and sometimes it isn't... toss a coin :shrug:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but can a corrections officer serve on a jury?

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Chemisse DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-05-11 10:40 PM
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28. Very bad. I had a loved one who was accused of a crime he didn't commit.
   
Evidence was twisted and released to the media. They repeatedly tried to get him to agree to a plea deal. He refused and after 18 months of hell, they dropped the charges. No apologies, no retractions. He lost his job and his career, and the stigma of the charges will be with him until the day he dies.

And he was white, middle class and respected by his community. I can't even fathom how bad the system can be for someone who is poor, or a minority, or an immigrant.

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MouseFitzgerald (55 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Jul-06-11 03:56 AM
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39. Horrible
   
If I was a less intelligent person, I would undoubtedly be a libertarian considering my experiences with the judicial system. The cops where I live are hardcore fascists and it is well known that they are incredibly corrupt. My family and I have had some pretty ****ed up experiences that really make it hard for me to have complete faith in our system.

WOW!

Most of those who voted bad have made no comment.

Title: Re: DU poll- How have you been treated by the courts- You know the answer
Post by: GOBUCKS on July 06, 2011, 12:40:27 PM
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put in jail over bad paperwork
Cops found a few stems that dribbled out of his ZigZag.
Title: Re: DU poll- How have you been treated by the courts- You know the answer
Post by: Texacon on July 06, 2011, 12:57:58 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but can a corrections officer serve on a jury?


Yes they can.  I know several CO's and a couple of them have served as jurors.

KC
Title: Re: DU poll- How have you been treated by the courts- You know the answer
Post by: jukin on July 06, 2011, 01:01:20 PM
Being found guilty while actually being guilty is not BAD treatment.

I predict 10s of bouncies in this camp fire.
Title: Re: DU poll- How have you been treated by the courts- You know the answer
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on July 06, 2011, 02:32:29 PM
I have had pretty extensive experience with it, and while it can be as arbitrary, inconsistent, unpredictable, capricious, biased toward the connected, and even sometimes loaded as the DUmmies say, the thing is, an innocent person has a WHOLE lot better chance of walking out of the courtroom free in our system than in any other in the world.  It's highly imperfect, sure, but it's miles ahead of the competition.
Title: Re: DU poll- How have you been treated by the courts- You know the answer
Post by: jukin on July 06, 2011, 04:52:59 PM
I have had pretty extensive experience with it, and while it can be as arbitrary, inconsistent, unpredictable, capricious, biased toward the connected, and even sometimes loaded as the DUmmies say, the thing is, an innocent person has a WHOLE lot better chance of walking out of the courtroom free in our system than in any other in the world.  It's highly imperfect, sure, but it's miles ahead of the competition.

Yep our Representative Democracy is the WORST system to hae been devised....except for all the otheres that have been tried.
Title: Re: DU poll- How have you been treated by the courts- You know the answer
Post by: Tucker on July 06, 2011, 04:56:50 PM
Yep our Representative Democracy is the WORST system to hae been devised....except for all the otheres that have been tried.

And even though communism has been a failure everywhere it's been in force, DUmmies think that they can make it  successful here.
Title: Re: DU poll- How have you been treated by the courts- You know the answer
Post by: Bodadh on July 06, 2011, 07:34:16 PM
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The cops where I live are hardcore fascists and it is well known that they are incredibly corrupt.

renewal2012, is that you? :rotf:
Title: Re: DU poll- How have you been treated by the courts- You know the answer
Post by: GOBUCKS on July 06, 2011, 08:03:31 PM
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REP  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jul-05-11 09:01 PM
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12. Victim. Not good.
Despite being prosopagnosiac, I was able to pick out my kidnaper/attempted rapist from a photo lineup. 
 
Another "special" DUmmy. Unbelievable. Every single one of them has some kind of psychological disorder, and brags about it.
This one is probably good for SSI qualification.
Title: Re: DU poll- How have you been treated by the courts- You know the answer
Post by: thundley4 on July 06, 2011, 08:29:03 PM
 
Another "special" DUmmy. Unbelievable. Every single one of them has some kind of psychological disorder, and brags about it.
This one is probably good for SSI qualification.

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The term originally referred to a condition following acute brain damage, but a congenital form of the disorder has been proposed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosopagnosia

That explains a lot.
Title: Re: DU poll- How have you been treated by the courts- You know the answer
Post by: Skul on July 07, 2011, 02:25:48 AM
Reap what you sow, DUmbasses.