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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: FiddyBeowulf on July 06, 2011, 09:50:00 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1419640 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1419640)
I found this thread to be strangely ironic. The DUmp is a hive mind and it purges unsame thought with Orwellian efficiency. Unsame posts are either removed or if an unsame thread, moved to the dungeon.
The replies are kind of lame as you would expect it to be. How many opinions can be changed when essentially they all think the same. In my mind this is what DU is like:
You have two people who are going to buy a car. The choice is between two cars that are the same make, model, color, interior, options and their biggest disagreement is the position of the headrests.
Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jul-06-11 12:04 AM
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33. What was posted on DU lead me on a path to change my opinion on Anthony Weiner.
Edited on Wed Jul-06-11 12:13 AM by Kaleva
it wasn't any one post in particular but some of the comments made got me to thinking and to do some google searching on Weiner. It was after that I changed my mind on him.
One of the most vanilla of posts. Unless you dig for it no one has any idea what his original opinion was and what it was changed to.
I also wonder how many of his (and others) positions were changed by actual reasoning than by plain peer pressure.
It seems the biggest theme is gay marriage. But mostly on civil unions vs marriages.
KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jul-05-11 03:01 PM
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8. Yeppers. I used to be part of the "why don't they just accept civil unions and be quiet?" crowd.
Then the most esteemed Bertha Venation fixed my red wagon by pointing out how unfair it was that Britney Spears could get married as a joke but she and her life partner of two decades could not (at the time).
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jul-05-11 03:05 PM
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12. I was right there, too, until about 2004.
Edited on Tue Jul-05-11 03:06 PM by EFerrari
I don't remember anyone fixing my wagon but do remember that it was reading ruggerson that helped me figure it out.
Was this even an issue in 2004? I know the DOMA was passed in 1996 (and signed into law by Bill Clinton btw-suck it dems) but I do not remember this burning up the any of the message boards.
DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jul-05-11 03:05 PM
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10. Yes. Gay marriage.
I was arrogant about it. I had decided that everyone should have civil unions, not just gay people. How stupid was that? Now I know that I was arrogantly brushing aside their concerns and replacing them with my own.
All it took to make me see the light was a person here asking me why it should be called something else just because gay people want to do it. I also know now that marriage is well defined by law, over hundreds of years of Precedents, while civil union is not well defined at all; therefore, there is no equal protection.
So it has to be marriage for all. Period.
Ideally I wanted more out of the thread and was hoping someone would have stirred the hive up a little.
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To answer the DUmmy's poll question, there's only one thing that has ever changed my mind about DU from reading their posts. I used to think they were just crazy and stupid, now I think they're completely batshit insane and ignorantly stupid.
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My opinion of liberals has gone from seething hatred to dismissive contempt.
Does that count?
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Ohh lemme tell you DU has changed my mind BIG TIME!
I used to think that leftists, while wacky, were mostly harmless, but after reading the positions that DUmmies take I realized that the left is a real danger to the Constitution and our way of life as Americans. Now I realize just how important elections are, in order to keep the moonbats on the sidelines and off the field.
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I know put estimated delivery times as 16-20 business weeks.
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Well, my opinion of liberals has gone from dismissive contempt to seething hatred. Especially the communist variety.
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DUmmies have a bad habit of proclaiming themselves the enlightened intelligentsia of the world.
I have learned that they present the true face of howling ignorance.
Logic and reason are foreign to them. They make decisions based on raw emotion, fueled frequently by drugs.
Their bad decisions are legion. And they have gall to blame others for them.
DUmmies rage and hate only as the truly ignorant can. They hate people of faith but cannot verbalize why.
They speak racist words at those who dare to leave the plantation, but cannot recognize their own bigotry.
Their constant lies ruin what reputation they could have. Not even regular socialists want them in their midst.
So the DUmp stands at a testimony to the wretched refuse the liberals have created...
DU is the child of liberalism..the true legacy of the progressive agenda's empty promise. Only God can reach the wretched, useless, wasted lives that swell on the doorstep of Hell.
Miseralble, wretched fools.
No liberal will reach a hand down to them, yet they remain ignorant of their own betrayal.
The promised pony will never come. ever.
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Poll question: Has anything posted on DU ever changed your mind about something?
Yes, but not in a way which improved my opinion of Democrats.
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-05-11 04:59 PM
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Oh, hell yeah. I used to think everyone on the internet shared my same interests until I joined DU. This group of nogoodniks is pretty eclectic.
Lots of straight jacket wearers post here, ya know.
And some really cool people.
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Truer words were never spoken.
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To answer the DUmmy's poll question, there's only one thing that has ever changed my mind about DU from reading their posts. I used to think they were just crazy and stupid, now I think they're completely batshit insane and ignorantly stupid.
Ya beat me to the punch, Ralph Wiggum! :thatsright:
Oh well, great minds and all that. :cheersmate:
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I know put estimated delivery times as 16-20 business weeks.
Holy BUCKETS!!!!
I now put estimated delivery times as 16-20 business weeks.
Proofreading is not my strong suit, nor English but I can solve tensors.
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Ohh lemme tell you DU has changed my mind BIG TIME!
I used to think that leftists, while wacky, were mostly harmless, but after reading the positions that DUmmies take I realized that the left is a real danger to the Constitution and our way of life as Americans. Now I realize just how important elections are, in order to keep the moonbats on the sidelines and off the field.
I thought pretty much the same way. I thought well-meaning but dangerously misguided hippies who would rather hug someone who is attacking than defend themselves. But the reality is they are dangerously psychotic hate-filled rage-addicts.