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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on July 02, 2011, 06:15:30 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1403763
Oh my.
Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-02-11 03:18 PM
Original message
Los Angeles Times: Deficit battle shaping up as another Republican victory
Regardless of any tax concessions President Obama achieves, the end result would favor Republican goals of cutting spending and government services.
Even as the political battle mounts over federal spending, the end result for federal policy is already visible — and clearly favors Republican goals of deep spending cuts and drastically fewer government services.
But even if Obama were to gain all the tax-law changes he wants, new revenue would make up only about 15 cents of each dollar in deficit reduction in the package. An agreement by the Republicans to accept new revenue would be a political victory for Obama because “no new taxes†has been such an article of faith for the GOP.
But substantively, budget experts note, the plan would still be dominated by cuts to government programs, many of them longtime Democratic priorities, such as Medicaid and federal employee pensions.
Acquiescing to GOP demands would be the third major compromise for Democrats in the past year — a point of considerable frustration for the party's liberal base. Despite Democratic opposition, Congress voted in December to extend the Bush-era tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans and agreed this spring to steep budget reductions to avert a federal government shutdown.
Read the full article at:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-de...
TheWraith (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-02-11 03:21 PM
Response to Original message
1. Apparently the LA Times writers are psychic, and know the results before there ARE results.
Either that, or they're simply bullshitting, and giving credit for Dem proposals like reduced military spending to the Republicans.
LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-02-11 03:51 PM
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15. Maybe you don't know what the phrase "shaping up as" means... or do you just prefer strawmen?
Just taking the headline: "Deficit battle shaping up as GOP victory
Regardless of any tax concessions President Obama achieves, the end result would favor Republican goals of cutting spending and government services." ... you're assertion that they are psychic and "know the results before there ARE results" is just laughable—the article is describing the point at which the negotiations are starting, and the trend of the upcoming negotiations... which is not a statement of final results, but a statement about the neighborhood of results in which the process is headed.
Your attempt to argue invalidity is no more valid here than it is to say that the Surgeon General's warning on every package of cigarettes is "simply bullshitting" because there's no way to know if smokers will get cancer.
WCGreen (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-02-11 06:46 PM
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29. I hope this was an opinion piece...
CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-02-11 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. I'm afraid it isn't...
Ha ha.
It's a medium-sized campfire, but well worth seeing the despondency of the primitives at the link above.
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There were a bunch of threads the other day saying Obama was going to win, oooops!