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Title: Mock Draft. I hope the Falcons draft this good, but.......
Post by: Rebel Yell on April 22, 2008, 12:36:17 PM
IF the draft goes this way, it will be great for ATL, but I know their history in the draft.  I look for them to draft Matt Ryan, even though I don't think they should.  Of course, I was deadset against the trade up to draft Vick.  How prophetic, even though he would never have won consistently anyway.  I was robbed of my foresight by his dogfighting, but just watch Vince Young to see what would've happened.


How does your team look for this weekend?

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html
Title: Re: Mock Draft. I hope the Falcons draft this good, but.......
Post by: john c calhoun on April 22, 2008, 12:59:57 PM
IF the draft goes this way, it will be great for ATL, but I know their history in the draft.  I look for them to draft Matt Ryan, even though I don't think they should.  Of course, I was deadset against the trade up to draft Vick.  How prophetic, even though he would never have won consistently anyway.  I was robbed of my foresight by his dogfighting, but just watch Vince Young to see what would've happened.


How does your team look for this weekend?

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

looks pretty good & better than alot of drafts I've seen.... since I think gholston goes first & these guys have him going 2nd...

I'm still doubting the Pats are gonna pass up brandon albert or ryan clady though..... but, its possible & they obviously know what else is out there far as Olinemen that we're not seeing or hearing...

I've pretty well figured miami will either go Vernon Gholston or Jake Long..... thats parcels style alright...

as far as the Rams, they are total fools if they take gholston over albert, clady or ANY of the top 5 Olinemen 

Falcons will take Matt Ryan & there ain't no way he's as bad as Vick... or should I say they SHOULD take matt ryan....

Raiders...who knows & who cares ?? :lmao: ...actually, I say they take Chris Long if he's still around, cause the  raydas went out of their way resigning 4 capable running backs this offseason & Long of course if an alumni...

Jets- they'll take mcfadden or dorsey

Pats- I have no friggen idea now..... :p .... if I were coach, obviously my primary concern is giving Brady protection against pressure D's.... but if brandon albert & the others aren't capable, then I'm going Ellis or  Harvey  to make my pass rush more fierce as to buffer the makeshift 2ndary (ie: like the Giants did so well).

...&  I can't remember when belichick actually drafted a starting LB, so I'm not looking for him to start now (bruschi/mcguiness/johnson were parcels guys, colvin/phifer/vrabel/Thomas were all F/As & at least 2 of those guys weren't even LB's in college, they were DE's)

ravens- CB or QB...

bungholes- running back or Dlineman

seattle- WR

Nola- Keith Rivers

Title: Re: Mock Draft. I hope the Falcons draft this good, but.......
Post by: Rebel Yell on April 22, 2008, 02:15:39 PM
IF the draft goes this way, it will be great for ATL, but I know their history in the draft.  I look for them to draft Matt Ryan, even though I don't think they should.  Of course, I was deadset against the trade up to draft Vick.  How prophetic, even though he would never have won consistently anyway.  I was robbed of my foresight by his dogfighting, but just watch Vince Young to see what would've happened.


How does your team look for this weekend?

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

looks pretty good & better than alot of drafts I've seen.... since I think gholston goes first & these guys have him going 2nd...

I'm still doubting the Pats are gonna pass up brandon albert or ryan clady though..... but, its possible & they obviously know what else is out there far as Olinemen that we're not seeing or hearing...

I've pretty well figured miami will either go Vernon Gholston or Jake Long..... thats parcels style alright...

as far as the Rams, they are total fools if they take gholston over albert, clady or ANY of the top 5 Olinemen 

Falcons will take Matt Ryan & there ain't no way he's as bad as Vick... or should I say they SHOULD take matt ryan....
Raiders...who knows & who cares ?? :lmao: ...actually, I say they take Chris Long if he's still around, cause the  raydas went out of their way resigning 4 capable running backs this offseason & Long of course if an alumni...

Jets- they'll take mcfadden or dorsey

Pats- I have no friggen idea now..... :p .... if I were coach, obviously my primary concern is giving Brady protection against pressure D's.... but if brandon albert & the others aren't capable, then I'm going Ellis or  Harvey  to make my pass rush more fierce as to buffer the makeshift 2ndary (ie: like the Giants did so well).

...&  I can't remember when belichick actually drafted a starting LB, so I'm not looking for him to start now (bruschi/mcguiness/johnson were parcels guys, colvin/phifer/vrabel/Thomas were all F/As & at least 2 of those guys weren't even LB's in college, they were DE's)

ravens- CB or QB...

bungholes- running back or Dlineman

seattle- WR

Nola- Keith Rivers


I don't know.  They could go for the safer pick, Dorsey, and get Brohm in the second.  They have alot of picks in the second round, so they could possibly trade up to the late first round if neccessary.  I don't like drafting a QB that high, too big a risk.
Title: Re: Mock Draft. I hope the Falcons draft this good, but.......
Post by: ReardenSteel on April 22, 2008, 02:27:47 PM
I don't know.  They could go for the safer pick, Dorsey, and get Brohm in the second.  They have alot of picks in the second round, so they could possibly trade up to the late first round if neccessary.  I don't like drafting a QB that high, too big a risk.

I know the Rams like Dorsey with Jake off the board. But he could be a good fit for Atlanta for sure ifhe is there. Also, fwiw, Seattle has been making a little noise about trading out of first round. (pick 25) Brohm IMHO will be the best QB from this class. He is ready right now and will be good by year two. (I think)
Title: Re: Mock Draft. I hope the Falcons draft this good, but.......
Post by: Rebel Yell on April 22, 2008, 02:31:02 PM
I don't know.  They could go for the safer pick, Dorsey, and get Brohm in the second.  They have alot of picks in the second round, so they could possibly trade up to the late first round if neccessary.  I don't like drafting a QB that high, too big a risk.

I know the Rams like Dorsey with Jake off the board. But he could be a good fit for Atlanta for sure ifhe is there. Also, fwiw, Seattle has been making a little noise about trading out of first round. (pick 25) Brohm IMHO will be the best QB from this class. He is ready right now and will be good by year two. (I think)
Yeah, his stock dropped after returning for his senior to put up huge numbers for a bad team.  He would've been top ten last year.

This mock has Seattle taking James Stewart.  He looks like he could be another Jamal Lewis.  Would be a steal at 25.
Title: Re: Mock Draft. I hope the Falcons draft this good, but.......
Post by: john c calhoun on April 22, 2008, 02:33:26 PM
IF the draft goes this way, it will be great for ATL, but I know their history in the draft.  I look for them to draft Matt Ryan, even though I don't think they should.  Of course, I was deadset against the trade up to draft Vick.  How prophetic, even though he would never have won consistently anyway.  I was robbed of my foresight by his dogfighting, but just watch Vince Young to see what would've happened.


How does your team look for this weekend?

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

looks pretty good & better than alot of drafts I've seen.... since I think gholston goes first & these guys have him going 2nd...

I'm still doubting the Pats are gonna pass up brandon albert or ryan clady though..... but, its possible & they obviously know what else is out there far as Olinemen that we're not seeing or hearing...

I've pretty well figured miami will either go Vernon Gholston or Jake Long..... thats parcels style alright...

as far as the Rams, they are total fools if they take gholston over albert, clady or ANY of the top 5 Olinemen 

Falcons will take Matt Ryan & there ain't no way he's as bad as Vick... or should I say they SHOULD take matt ryan....
Raiders...who knows & who cares ?? :lmao: ...actually, I say they take Chris Long if he's still around, cause the  raydas went out of their way resigning 4 capable running backs this offseason & Long of course if an alumni...

Jets- they'll take mcfadden or dorsey

Pats- I have no friggen idea now..... :p .... if I were coach, obviously my primary concern is giving Brady protection against pressure D's.... but if brandon albert & the others aren't capable, then I'm going Ellis or  Harvey  to make my pass rush more fierce as to buffer the makeshift 2ndary (ie: like the Giants did so well).

...&  I can't remember when belichick actually drafted a starting LB, so I'm not looking for him to start now (bruschi/mcguiness/johnson were parcels guys, colvin/phifer/vrabel/Thomas were all F/As & at least 2 of those guys weren't even LB's in college, they were DE's)

ravens- CB or QB...

bungholes- running back or Dlineman

seattle- WR

Nola- Keith Rivers


I don't know.  They could go for the safer pick, Dorsey, and get Brohm in the second.  They have alot of picks in the second round, so they could possibly trade up to the late first round if neccessary.  I don't like drafting a QB that high, too big a risk.

true ...

dorsey is a great player, but won't do diddly for the falcons.......& when you lose Mike Vick, you had better replace him w/ something seemingly special ...and they need a QB,  I doubt brohm & ryan will be around for them in the 2nd ....

hell if joey harrington can keep their offense semi productive, I'm thinking Ryan may do wonders, especially w/ the addition of michael turner....
Title: Re: Mock Draft. I hope the Falcons draft this good, but.......
Post by: Odin's Hand on April 22, 2008, 02:35:48 PM
I think the Rams will go DL despite their need for interior O-line.
Title: Re: Mock Draft. I hope the Falcons draft this good, but.......
Post by: ReardenSteel on April 22, 2008, 02:37:09 PM
I don't know.  They could go for the safer pick, Dorsey, and get Brohm in the second.  They have alot of picks in the second round, so they could possibly trade up to the late first round if neccessary.  I don't like drafting a QB that high, too big a risk.

I know the Rams like Dorsey with Jake off the board. But he could be a good fit for Atlanta for sure ifhe is there. Also, fwiw, Seattle has been making a little noise about trading out of first round. (pick 25) Brohm IMHO will be the best QB from this class. He is ready right now and will be good by year two. (I think)
Yeah, his stock dropped after returning for his senior to put up huge numbers for a bad team.  He would've been top ten last year.

This mock has Seattle taking James Stewart.  He looks like he could be another Jamal Lewis.  Would be a steal at 25.

I saw that and I agree. Which is also why I'm 97% sure he will be gone.  :(
Title: Re: Mock Draft. I hope the Falcons draft this good, but.......
Post by: john c calhoun on April 22, 2008, 02:37:23 PM
I don't know.  They could go for the safer pick, Dorsey, and get Brohm in the second.  They have alot of picks in the second round, so they could possibly trade up to the late first round if neccessary.  I don't like drafting a QB that high, too big a risk.

I know the Rams like Dorsey with Jake off the board. But he could be a good fit for Atlanta for sure ifhe is there. Also, fwiw, Seattle has been making a little noise about trading out of first round. (pick 25) Brohm IMHO will be the best QB from this class. He is ready right now and will be good by year two. (I think)

good for a team that can protect him....

thats why the Rams &  chiefs have gotta grab other top Olinemen, to protect their current QB's ... the falcons already have a decent Oline & now they'll have a better running game, so the table is perfectly set for a QB to takeover & flourish...

Rams won't go gholston, they cannot be that stupid...
Title: Re: Mock Draft. I hope the Falcons draft this good, but.......
Post by: Odin's Hand on April 22, 2008, 02:38:37 PM
Aqib Talib going higher that Cason??? WTF are they smoking. Cason is superior in MtM coverage.
Title: Re: Mock Draft. I hope the Falcons draft this good, but.......
Post by: Rebel Yell on April 22, 2008, 02:43:09 PM
I don't know.  They could go for the safer pick, Dorsey, and get Brohm in the second.  They have alot of picks in the second round, so they could possibly trade up to the late first round if neccessary.  I don't like drafting a QB that high, too big a risk.

I know the Rams like Dorsey with Jake off the board. But he could be a good fit for Atlanta for sure ifhe is there. Also, fwiw, Seattle has been making a little noise about trading out of first round. (pick 25) Brohm IMHO will be the best QB from this class. He is ready right now and will be good by year two. (I think)

good for a team that can protect him....

thats why the Rams &  chiefs have gotta grab other top Olinemen, to protect their current QB's ... the falcons already have a decent Oline & now they'll have a better running game, so the table is perfectly set for a QB to takeover & flourish...

Rams won't go gholston, they cannot be that stupid...
I could see Brohm being around in the early second round.  I don't think he should, but he could be.  If the draft works out for the players they have ATL taking are available, this could be one the best classes for one team in a long time.  Check all 3 rounds and see how it could play out for the Falcons.

Plus Matt Ryan's not gonna replace the ticket sales Vick brought to the table, but on the field he's not that hard to replace.
Title: Re: Mock Draft. I hope the Falcons draft this good, but.......
Post by: john c calhoun on April 22, 2008, 02:48:07 PM
I don't know.  They could go for the safer pick, Dorsey, and get Brohm in the second.  They have alot of picks in the second round, so they could possibly trade up to the late first round if neccessary.  I don't like drafting a QB that high, too big a risk.

I know the Rams like Dorsey with Jake off the board. But he could be a good fit for Atlanta for sure ifhe is there. Also, fwiw, Seattle has been making a little noise about trading out of first round. (pick 25) Brohm IMHO will be the best QB from this class. He is ready right now and will be good by year two. (I think)

good for a team that can protect him....

thats why the Rams &  chiefs have gotta grab other top Olinemen, to protect their current QB's ... the falcons already have a decent Oline & now they'll have a better running game, so the table is perfectly set for a QB to takeover & flourish...

Rams won't go gholston, they cannot be that stupid...
I could see Brohm being around in the early second round.  I don't think he should, but he could be.  If the draft works out for the players they have ATL taking are available, this could be one the best classes for one team in a long time.  Check all 3 rounds and see how it could play out for the Falcons.

Plus Matt Ryan's not gonna replace the ticket sales Vick brought to the table, but on the field he's not that hard to replace.

exactly....

& thats why the falcons owner needs to replace vick w/ the highest rated QB available....because he will be filling big shoes & he will get NATIONAL MEDIA & he will be SUCCESSFUL because the falcons have a good Oline /running game already AND as you said, Vick was only great in the homers eyes, so ryan only needs to be average to look as good & better than vick
Title: Re: Mock Draft. I hope the Falcons draft this good, but.......
Post by: Rebel Yell on April 22, 2008, 02:58:27 PM
I don't know.  They could go for the safer pick, Dorsey, and get Brohm in the second.  They have alot of picks in the second round, so they could possibly trade up to the late first round if neccessary.  I don't like drafting a QB that high, too big a risk.

I know the Rams like Dorsey with Jake off the board. But he could be a good fit for Atlanta for sure ifhe is there. Also, fwiw, Seattle has been making a little noise about trading out of first round. (pick 25) Brohm IMHO will be the best QB from this class. He is ready right now and will be good by year two. (I think)

good for a team that can protect him....

thats why the Rams &  chiefs have gotta grab other top Olinemen, to protect their current QB's ... the falcons already have a decent Oline & now they'll have a better running game, so the table is perfectly set for a QB to takeover & flourish...

Rams won't go gholston, they cannot be that stupid...
I could see Brohm being around in the early second round.  I don't think he should, but he could be.  If the draft works out for the players they have ATL taking are available, this could be one the best classes for one team in a long time.  Check all 3 rounds and see how it could play out for the Falcons.

Plus Matt Ryan's not gonna replace the ticket sales Vick brought to the table, but on the field he's not that hard to replace.

exactly....

& thats why the falcons owner needs to replace vick w/ the highest rated QB available....because he will be filling big shoes & he will get NATIONAL MEDIA & he will be SUCCESSFUL because the falcons have a good Oline /running game already AND as you said, Vick was only great in the homers eyes, so ryan only needs to be average to look as good & better than vick
Brohm can do the same thing, plus you can shore up other holes as well. 
Title: Re: Mock Draft. I hope the Falcons draft this good, but.......
Post by: john c calhoun on April 22, 2008, 03:05:06 PM
I don't know.  They could go for the safer pick, Dorsey, and get Brohm in the second.  They have alot of picks in the second round, so they could possibly trade up to the late first round if neccessary.  I don't like drafting a QB that high, too big a risk.

I know the Rams like Dorsey with Jake off the board. But he could be a good fit for Atlanta for sure ifhe is there. Also, fwiw, Seattle has been making a little noise about trading out of first round. (pick 25) Brohm IMHO will be the best QB from this class. He is ready right now and will be good by year two. (I think)

good for a team that can protect him....

thats why the Rams &  chiefs have gotta grab other top Olinemen, to protect their current QB's ... the falcons already have a decent Oline & now they'll have a better running game, so the table is perfectly set for a QB to takeover & flourish...

Rams won't go gholston, they cannot be that stupid...
I could see Brohm being around in the early second round.  I don't think he should, but he could be.  If the draft works out for the players they have ATL taking are available, this could be one the best classes for one team in a long time.  Check all 3 rounds and see how it could play out for the Falcons.

Plus Matt Ryan's not gonna replace the ticket sales Vick brought to the table, but on the field he's not that hard to replace.

exactly....

& thats why the falcons owner needs to replace vick w/ the highest rated QB available....because he will be filling big shoes & he will get NATIONAL MEDIA & he will be SUCCESSFUL because the falcons have a good Oline /running game already AND as you said, Vick was only great in the homers eyes, so ryan only needs to be average to look as good & better than vick
Brohm can do the same thing, plus you can shore up other holes as well. 

brohm will be gone if the falcons don't grab him at #3....

the fins, chiefs, ravens, bears, lions, vikings, 49ers, texans, Buccs, panthers & jets are in need of QB's....

Title: Re: Mock Draft. I hope the Falcons draft this good, but.......
Post by: Rebel Yell on April 22, 2008, 03:07:46 PM
I don't know.  They could go for the safer pick, Dorsey, and get Brohm in the second.  They have alot of picks in the second round, so they could possibly trade up to the late first round if neccessary.  I don't like drafting a QB that high, too big a risk.

I know the Rams like Dorsey with Jake off the board. But he could be a good fit for Atlanta for sure ifhe is there. Also, fwiw, Seattle has been making a little noise about trading out of first round. (pick 25) Brohm IMHO will be the best QB from this class. He is ready right now and will be good by year two. (I think)

good for a team that can protect him....

thats why the Rams &  chiefs have gotta grab other top Olinemen, to protect their current QB's ... the falcons already have a decent Oline & now they'll have a better running game, so the table is perfectly set for a QB to takeover & flourish...

Rams won't go gholston, they cannot be that stupid...
I could see Brohm being around in the early second round.  I don't think he should, but he could be.  If the draft works out for the players they have ATL taking are available, this could be one the best classes for one team in a long time.  Check all 3 rounds and see how it could play out for the Falcons.

Plus Matt Ryan's not gonna replace the ticket sales Vick brought to the table, but on the field he's not that hard to replace.

exactly....

& thats why the falcons owner needs to replace vick w/ the highest rated QB available....because he will be filling big shoes & he will get NATIONAL MEDIA & he will be SUCCESSFUL because the falcons have a good Oline /running game already AND as you said, Vick was only great in the homers eyes, so ryan only needs to be average to look as good & better than vick
Brohm can do the same thing, plus you can shore up other holes as well. 

brohm will be gone if the falcons don't grab him at #3....

the fins, chiefs, ravens, bears, lions, vikings, 49ers, texans, Buccs, panthers & jets are in need of QB's....


If need be trade up from the second round.  They have plenty of picks.
Title: Re: Mock Draft. I hope the Falcons draft this good, but.......
Post by: ReardenSteel on April 22, 2008, 03:08:15 PM
I don't know.  They could go for the safer pick, Dorsey, and get Brohm in the second.  They have alot of picks in the second round, so they could possibly trade up to the late first round if neccessary.  I don't like drafting a QB that high, too big a risk.

I know the Rams like Dorsey with Jake off the board. But he could be a good fit for Atlanta for sure ifhe is there. Also, fwiw, Seattle has been making a little noise about trading out of first round. (pick 25) Brohm IMHO will be the best QB from this class. He is ready right now and will be good by year two. (I think)

good for a team that can protect him....

thats why the Rams &  chiefs have gotta grab other top Olinemen, to protect their current QB's ... the falcons already have a decent Oline & now they'll have a better running game, so the table is perfectly set for a QB to takeover & flourish...

Rams won't go gholston, they cannot be that stupid...
I could see Brohm being around in the early second round.  I don't think he should, but he could be.  If the draft works out for the players they have ATL taking are available, this could be one the best classes for one team in a long time.  Check all 3 rounds and see how it could play out for the Falcons.

Plus Matt Ryan's not gonna replace the ticket sales Vick brought to the table, but on the field he's not that hard to replace.

exactly....

& thats why the falcons owner needs to replace vick w/ the highest rated QB available....because he will be filling big shoes & he will get NATIONAL MEDIA & he will be SUCCESSFUL because the falcons have a good Oline /running game already AND as you said, Vick was only great in the homers eyes, so ryan only needs to be average to look as good & better than vick
Brohm can do the same thing, plus you can shore up other holes as well. 

brohm will be gone if the falcons don't grab him at #3....

the fins, chiefs, ravens, bears, lions, vikings, 49ers, texans, Buccs, panthers & jets are in need of QB's....



Or the Browns could grab him in case Anderson and Quinn both go down.   :tongue: :-)