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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on June 29, 2011, 09:51:13 AM
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cali (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-29-11 09:07 AM
Original message
Democrats pass austerity budget for California
Universities, courts and the poor would be among those losing funding in the new California budget. Officials admit the plan would not restore the state to fiscal health.
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-29-11 09:50 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. Maybe the Democrats should put more effort into addressing the objections of the Republican members
I know that sounds bizarre, but it is how the system is supposed to work. The minority members do have a right to air their views and to oppose legislation they object to. They were duly elected to represent millions of real people.
Making a workable budget is not going to be easy. I cannot abide a member of either party who stands on a soap box and tries to put all of the blame on the opposing party. That's lazy, petulant, and intellectually dishonest regardless of which side is doing it.
freeper troll
NV Whino (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-29-11 10:05 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. No budget would have been passed
if the Republicons had any say. There is no "cooperating" when it comes to Republicons in CA.
*IF* the republicans had any say...but they don't...so why didn't the dems pass a real bill assnugget?
slackmaster (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-29-11 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #6
10. That's precisely the attitude that is preventing any real budget reform
(http://www.lewrockwell.com/grigg/Colors_of_contention.jpg)
I-i-i-interesting...right-click the image then click "Properties" and see where slacker got the image.
msongs (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-29-11 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #5
9. republicans here have only ONE position = NO to anything dems propose nt
OK, Mr. Bipartisan, tell us all the GOP policies proposals you agree to say YES to.
azul (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-29-11 09:47 AM
Response to Original message
4. And since the republicans were shut out of the deal,
do they get a pass on the blame for the pain and backwardness of the results?
The media noise is the D's call the R's moronic for their unrealistic budget stance, and the R's respond that the D's are juvenile for saying so. At least Brown is talking some sense.
How low have we been brought if Gov Moonbeam is the voice of sense and reason.
deacon (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-29-11 10:08 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. They shouldn't. They are the ones that ran the country down and left us with drastic measure
solutions.
In California?
azul (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-29-11 10:32 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. "Reduce taxes, reduce spending" the republicans have said this
so many times it is like a broken record. And the psychology of this mesmerization is that looking forward to having more money overpowers looking back at soured deals, regardless of facts.
They seem to want the collapse of government, because then its services can be privatized and it will have little power to regulate business.
Hm-m-m...a conservative version of Cloward-Piven
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I LIKE IT!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1383429
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The rate of businesses leaving kalifornia is going up exponentially. Our green economy is now killing 3.4 jobs for every one that it creates. Our unemployment is 33% higher than the national average and 50% higher than that of Texas. The donks solution is to increase taxes, increase payouts to looters and moochers, while increasing government regulations, and increasing public pensions.
I wish I had left when all my customers did.
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There is no doubt in my conservative mind that slackmaster is a mole. He is hard core pro gun. I've suspected this for years and years.
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Our unemployment is 33% higher than the national average and 50% higher than that of Texas.
California is ultraliberal, suffering under a deluge of illegal Mexicans.
Texas is conservative, suffering under a deluge of illegal Mexicans.
Strange, huh? The swarms of illegals are A problem. Not THE problem.
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California is ultraliberal, suffering under a deluge of illegal Mexicans.
Texas is conservative, suffering under a deluge of illegal Mexicans.
Strange, huh? The swarms of illegals are A problem. Not THE problem.
Well put.
The main reason we are dying is regulation. Even the state says that 35% of everything made and sold in kalifornia are due to regulatory cost. My university graduated had more environmental engineers than the mechanical, electrical/electronic, chemical, and nuclear engineers combined. That is not the way to win the future but a way to get a job for life.