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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on April 22, 2008, 08:44:04 AM
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Oh my.
Ms. Ed, the unappellated eohippus, wants to enjoy some of the joys of rural life.
Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 06:37 PM
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Check it out for yourself...is it chickenshit?
I have been getting tons of requests for chickens on freecycle.
So I checked out craigslist...and there are tons of people looking for chickens.
I was at Atwoods (farm store) recently...and I have been thinking about getting chickens...and they were completely sold out of baby chicks...last year they had hundreds of them.
Is this a new national phenomenon?
Or is it that people are just getting hungry?
For some reason, I don't think hungry people are into raising food; I think authentically hungry people are into just simply finding and getting food, here and now, rather than waiting for it to grow.
If chickens are chic, it must be one of those affluent white liberal trends, nothing more.
uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 06:43 PM
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2. I have answers, really, since I had trouble finding chicks too.
I've been scrambling to find replacements for my raccooned flock. I've been to my usual feed store, and several other that carry chicks and there is a real shortage this yr due to a couple factors.
Some major hatcheries had a couple bad hatches this spring.
A few yrs ago demand dropped off during the "OMG! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE OF BIRD FLU!!!!", so hatcheries had to cut back how many they hatched. Some smaller hatcheries have gone out of business, or almost.
People have figured out that no, we're probably not going to die right away from bird flu, so demand is up again and hatcheries just don't have the numbers.
Now, with food prices going up, more people are thinking of getting a small flock. Even in some cities you can have chickens (In Seattle you can have I think 3 hens, no roosters).
Wait until people notice how fast chicken food is going up in price also. I'm planting extra lettuce, greens, brassicas, etc in my garden to supplement the chicken food (went from $8/bag to $12/bag so far).
I got a bunch of silkies to act as moms next yr, hoping to hatch my own from a mixed flock. I found a few Rhode Island Reds, but otherwise have only see ornamentals. Guy at local store called when some came in and said come get them fast because they are going out fast also. And they did.
Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 06:55 PM
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4. My next door neighbor just replenished her laying hen supply and said chicks were in short supply this year due to increased demand.
She's also chewing her fingernails, hoping the chicks were sexed correctly.
brer cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 09:42 PM
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12. Off topic, but I have to share.
I worked this tax season for a CPA. I almost ruined a keyboard when I started one return and saw the occupation as "chicken sexer." THAT was never mentioned in any career seminar I had in high school!
Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 10:36 PM
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13. It's a very specific skill that is in short supply
It's really hard to tell one cute, fuzzy little hatchling from another but they manage.
My next door neighbors chicks have their grown up plumage coming in and I still can't tell.
They're cute little buggers, though.
And here comes a primitive who anticipates franksolich's now-not-needed comment:
Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 10:40 PM
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14. I knew a chicken sexer once
He made pretty good money at it-- more than the average professor at the local university.
Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 07:24 PM
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7. I grew up in the city and we had chickens in our backyard.
As did many of the neighbors. But I was born on the tail end of the great depression. Then, for many, if you didn't produce your own food. You didn't eat. The space that wasn't occupied by the chickens. That was planted with vegitables. Once you find out that you can get your food pretty much for free. It's hard to go back to the grocery store and buy it. It wasn't easy. But we got by.
Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 07:55 PM
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9. How many chickens do you need for a family of 5?
This is where I get lost...
What about if you wanted to sell some as well?
Is it worth the feed and the time to sell them or does it simply just pay for itself?
Wow, a financial wizard, Ms. Ed.
Feeding--not to mention clothing and roofing--a family of five on her $24,000 annual salary, $6,000 of which pays for her medical insurance.
Ms. Ed is allegedly an R.N., remember.
It's a reasonably large bonfire on Skins's island.
I dunno.
Growing up in small-town rural Nebraska, the only livestock I've ever raised were dogs and cats.
However, when it comes to personal cuisine, I am the dairy-and-eggs man's best friend.
I think the primitives considering raising chickens should explore another avenue of possible profitability regarding chickens, although this is pigs, not chickens. Lurking primitives should check out the three or four posts I've made in "General Discussions" here, about the William Rivers Pitt.
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I called an Atwood's. The particular location I called does not stock livestock. They gave me the number to a location that does offer live baby chickens. I was assured they have enough in stock for everybody.
Headline: "No Run On Chickens In North Texas"
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In case the chicken-raising primitives can't find the commercial possibilities, the links here:
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=5112.0;highlight=swine+excrement
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=6035.0;highlight=swine+excrement
I'm sure I've written far more than this about the now-famous William Rivers Pitt, but I have to run to town to get some cigarettes now.
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And when it comes time to whack the chicken (god I hope schade doesn't read this thread) and pluck it........................hell wait a damn minute, do they not realize that they will have to kill the chicken??? Or do they just plan to stay all chicken executions................
Free FogHorn LegHorn!!!!!!!
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In case the chicken-raising primitives can't find the commercial possibilities, the links here:
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=5112.0;highlight=swine+excrement
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=6035.0;highlight=swine+excrement
I'm sure I've written far more than this about the now-famous William Rivers Pitt, but I have to run to town to get some cigarettes now.
Ahh, tobacco. Another plant which has numerous natural enemies. ChemicalsChemicalsChemicals...just so Frank can smoke. :tongue:
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I have a friend who just got a couple dozen baby chicks. They are almost ready to lay eggs. They won't eat them, just rely on the eggs and they will sell the surplus.
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The chickens are coming home to roost.
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Where are they going to get the corn and chicken feed to feed them in this horrible * economy? :whatever:
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And when it comes time to whack the chicken (god I hope schade doesn't read this thread) and pluck it........................hell wait a damn minute, do they not realize that they will have to kill the chicken??? Or do they just plan to stay all chicken executions................
Free FogHorn LegHorn!!!!!!!
Yeah, we just killed three roosters this weekend. Some just turn into assholes right around the time they get close to a year old. Most people I know don't mind the occasional rooster...either you get a good one who will entertain you with his antics or you get dinner. As a general rule I don't kill my old hens, though. Mine free range so it doesn't cost all that much to have them around and older hens make wonderful broodies. Of course, they could always buy sex links and then they'd know they'd get pullets. They're extremely efficient layers. I just ordered 30 pullets and 3 roosters, including some rare breeds like barnvelders and faverolles. No problem. I also ordered 20 meat birds. No problem. I also ordered ducks, geese, and turkeys. No problem. But Ms. Ed has a very large poultry breeder in her state. I've ordered from Ideal and was sent exactly what I ordered. My favorite hen came from them, in fact. Well, Sophie Clucker's not a chicken really, she's a pet.
Cindie
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I called an Atwood's. The particular location I called does not stock livestock. They gave me the number to a location that does offer live baby chickens. I was assured they have enough in stock for everybody.
Headline: "No Run On Chickens In North Texas"
Well, remember, Ms. Ed has some problems sometimes, keeping all of her lies straight.
Sometimes Ms. Ed is from northern Texas, other times Ms. Ed is from eastern Texas.
Maybe in this case Ms. Ed is from eastern Texas, and so maybe there's a shortage in eastern Texas, while not in northern Texas.
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I would like to get 4 peacocks and 4 more guinea hens. I wonder how hard peacocks are to take care of. The guineas are really resilient, you don't have to do much of anything for them.
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I would like to get 4 peacocks and 4 more guinea hens. I wonder how hard peacocks are to take care of. The guineas are really resilient, you don't have to do much of anything for them.
Yeah but those guineas are about as intelligent as your average DUmmie. I love how they chatter back and forth with each other and I haven't seen a tick for years but they don't seem to know enough to get out of the middle of the driveway when the truck is coming toward them. They're SO ugly they'd fit on any DUmmie picture thread. I do want some lavender ones.
Peafowl are pretty easy to care for but keep in mind they can live as long as 50 years. They can eat what ever you feed the rest of your poultry. They forage as well as the guineas. They do need to be wormed each year though.
Cindie
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Our Guinea, Jenny, is in love with my SUV hubcap. She just stands there talking and pecking at it. She really isn't smart or pretty but she is smart enough to peck on my kitchen window until I get up and feed her. :-) I would post a picture but photobucket seems to be having issues right now. :whatever:
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Our Guinea, Jenny, is in love with my SUV hubcap. She just stands there talking and pecking at it. She really isn't smart or pretty but she is smart enough to peck on my kitchen window until I get up and feed her. :-) I would post a picture but photobucket seems to be having issues right now. :whatever:
Larry, Curly, and Moe (I have a female named Hagred but she's always the last one in or out...dumber than the boys but they just adore her):
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/delilahmused/R6quqZmfjtI/AAAAAAAAAZc/GADExe385hc/DSCF0155.JPG)
Cindie
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Our Guinea, Jenny, is in love with my SUV hubcap. She just stands there talking and pecking at it. She really isn't smart or pretty but she is smart enough to peck on my kitchen window until I get up and feed her.
Sounds like my ex-wife.
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(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c64/mamacags/100_3983.jpg)
Jenny
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(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c64/mamacags/100_3983.jpg)
Jenny
Aaaaawwwww! What color is she? I did read they don't tolerate snow well, but mine never seem to have a problem.
Cindie
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She is black with white polka dots. We have COLD winters here and she goes somewhere to hide. No one has ever found out where she hides. She isn't scared at all of cats and tolerates the dog barking at her way better than people do. I will see if I have a better picture of her. I always wanted some white ones.
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Moms, I meant to ask you earlier.
Are you a zookeeper, or do you live near a zoo, or what?
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No, the guinea came with the house. I think she is about the coolest bird ever.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 06:55 PM
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4. My next door neighbor just replenished her laying hen supply and said chicks were in short supply this year due to increased demand.
She's also chewing her fingernails, hoping the chicks were sexed correctly.
You just have to laugh at that!
Maybe the warped one can commingle with the subterranean cat for some help with that...re-sexing thing.
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And when it comes time to whack the chicken (god I hope schade doesn't read this thread) and pluck it........................hell wait a damn minute, do they not realize that they will have to kill the chicken??? Or do they just plan to stay all chicken executions................
Free FogHorn LegHorn!!!!!!!
I think most of the time they just choke it for a while.
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And when it comes time to whack the chicken (god I hope schade doesn't read this thread) and pluck it........................hell wait a damn minute, do they not realize that they will have to kill the chicken??? Or do they just plan to stay all chicken executions................
Free FogHorn LegHorn!!!!!!!
I think most of the time they just choke it for a while.
Oh shit!
Gay-Bi-Lez-Transgendered-Furry-ReGendered-GLBT-BiGendered-pedophiles-beastiality-Feltchers-Turkey Basters!
Now a fracking chicken-choking vision pops into my head. :o
I think I am going to puke!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 06:55 PM
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4. My next door neighbor just replenished her laying hen supply and said chicks were in short supply this year due to increased demand.
She's also chewing her fingernails, hoping the chicks were sexed correctly.
How opressive. That's the kind of talk one would expect from a Neo-KKKon, not liberated Womyn-types that frequent Progressive websites.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 06:37 PM
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Check it out for yourself...is it chickenshit?
I have been getting tons of requests for chickens on freecycle.
huh? I thought Freecycle was for books and old clothes.
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She is black with white polka dots. We have COLD winters here and she goes somewhere to hide. No one has ever found out where she hides. She isn't scared at all of cats and tolerates the dog barking at her way better than people do. I will see if I have a better picture of her. I always wanted some white ones.
Oh, she's a Pearl Guinea. Getting her companions would be a wonderful idea (especially from her point of view). Guineas HATE being alone. In fact, when you're training them to return to the coop, as opposed to having them roost in the trees, you let one out and keep the other ones in the fenced part of the coop. That guinea will stick to that fence like glue. Once you've done this for about a week they can pretty much be one their own. The only time they wander off is when the female lays eggs (they lay a very large clutch) but are notoriously terrible mothers...kiind of like liberals. They just kind of wander off and forget where they put them and the poor little keet will get left behind in the dewy grass and die.
Cindie
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We had about 60 chickens each year when I was growing up. Each Sunday afternoon my job was to clean out the chicken house. We sold eggs each week to the various nieghbors, and fryers each fall.
I was just a kid, so I have no idea the money envolved.
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We had about 60 chickens each year when I was growing up. Each Sunday afternoon my job was to clean out the chicken house. We sold eggs each week to the various nieghbors, and fryers each fall.
I was just a kid, so I have no idea the money envolved.
According to farming folklore, cleaning the chicken coop was the dirtiest possible job.
I have no idea.
You think so?
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We had about 60 chickens each year when I was growing up. Each Sunday afternoon my job was to clean out the chicken house. We sold eggs each week to the various nieghbors, and fryers each fall.
I was just a kid, so I have no idea the money envolved.
According to farming folklore, cleaning the chicken coop was the dirtiest possible job.
I have no idea.
You think so?
Well, it's the dirtiest job I do but it's not so bad. Of course my chickens run around outside all day so they're not inside pooping day and night. I use straw in the coop so I just throw it all around the trees in the orchard or where the garden is and in the spring we plow it into the soil. The coop is right across from the garden plot so it's pretty convenient. On coop cleaning days I take my shower in the afternoon rather than first thing in the morning, for obvious reasons.
Cindie
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I wondered, because I helped somebody clean out a chicken coop once.
Of course, it had had no chickens for a year or so.
For me, it was interesting, but as a weekly chore, I think it would be less interesting.
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Maybe after he aquires his chickens he can post a picture thread of him wringing their heads off prior to plucking and gutting.
I'm sure the whole Earth types over there would be FASCINATED! ;)
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Maybe after he aquires his chickens he can post a picture thread of him wringing their heads off prior to plucking and gutting.
I'm sure the whole Earth types over there would be FASCINATED! ;)
We just shoot ours in the head. Their heads are small enough that one shot pretty much blows their brains out.
Cindie
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Maybe after he aquires his chickens he can post a picture thread of him wringing their heads off prior to plucking and gutting.
I'm sure the whole Earth types over there would be FASCINATED! ;)
We just shoot ours in the head. Their heads are small enough that one shot pretty much blows their brains out.
Cindie
I take it that one has to be at very nearly contact range, eh?
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Maybe after he aquires his chickens he can post a picture thread of him wringing their heads off prior to plucking and gutting.
I'm sure the whole Earth types over there would be FASCINATED! ;)
We just shoot ours in the head. Their heads are small enough that one shot pretty much blows their brains out.
Cindie
I take it that one has to be at very nearly contact range, eh?
Yes, we have a place away from the other chickens and if we're doing more than one we'll hang them by upside down (this is NOT cruel, in fact carrying a rooster upside down...grabbing his legs...calms him down) from a rope. If it's just one we hold it in one hand and shoot with the other. It's usually my husband...I'm too much of a bleeding heart unless the rooster has really pissed me off, or meat birds...they're so stupid and messy the closer it gets to killing time the more anxious I am to see them in the freezer.
Cindie
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Maybe after he aquires his chickens he can post a picture thread of him wringing their heads off prior to plucking and gutting.
I'm sure the whole Earth types over there would be FASCINATED! ;)
We just shoot ours in the head. Their heads are small enough that one shot pretty much blows their brains out.
Cindie
That sounds like a "Whose Line" bit: "things you can say about chickens but not democrats."
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Maybe after he aquires his chickens he can post a picture thread of him wringing their heads off prior to plucking and gutting.
I'm sure the whole Earth types over there would be FASCINATED! ;)
We just shoot ours in the head. Their heads are small enough that one shot pretty much blows their brains out.
Cindie
That sounds like a "Whose Line" bit: "things you can say about chickens but not democrats."
LOL, H5 for you...there's a tag line there somewhere! :rotf:
Cindie