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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on June 22, 2011, 02:57:35 PM
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This just in, found by our esteemed friend and colleague, bijou.
As the eternal optimist, we can hope for the best, and reports trickling out seem to indicate the Venezuelan psychopath may be in much worse condition than has been reported.
Venezuela's voluble and ubiquitous President Hugo Chávez hasn't returned to the public eye after a surgery in Cuba that has friends and foes alike speculating about the state of his health and the future of his rule.
Mr. Chávez has been in Cuba since June 8, when he was felled by a pelvic abscess for which he underwent an operation two days later. Soon after, Venezuelan officials said the flamboyant leader was in good health but would recuperate in Havana for a "few days."
Those few days have stretched to 11, punctuated by false alarms over the date of his return. On Monday, a ruling party lawmaker said Mr. Chávez was hours from touching down in Caracas and urged his supporters to prepare a "tremendous" welcome for him. The claim was quickly refuted on the Twitter account of Venezuela's Communications Minister Andres Izarra. ...
Original thread's at
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,60870.msg701321/topicseen.html#msg701321
Brownie points from franksolich to the first member here who can find the reaction of the primitives to this.
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-22-11 02:56 PM
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Venezuelans Puzzle Over Their Leader's Health (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4892779)
Source: Wall Street Journal
CARACAS—Venezuela's voluble and ubiquitous President Hugo Chávez hasn't returned to the public eye after a surgery in Cuba that has friends and foes alike speculating about the state of his health and the future of his rule.
Mr. Chávez has been in Cuba since June 8, when he was felled by a pelvic abscess for which he underwent an operation two days later. Soon after, Venezuelan officials said the flamboyant leader was in good health but would recuperate in Havana for a "few days."
Those few days have stretched to 11, punctuated by false alarms over the date of his return. On Monday, a ruling party lawmaker said Mr. Chávez was hours from touching down in Caracas and urged his supporters to prepare a "tremendous" welcome for him. The claim was quickly refuted on the Twitter account of Venezuela's Communications Minister Andres Izarra.
In Cuba, he suffered acute pain during a meeting with former Cuban leader Fidel Castro and was rushed into surgery.
Read more: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304070104...
Proletariatprincess (436 posts) Wed Jun-22-11 03:43 PM
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1. uh oh.
Ihope Hugo didn't smoke any poison cigars from the CIA.
FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-22-11 03:51 PM
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2. Hugo, please don't die.
The conspiracy nuts will have a field day. At least it was in Cuba. Imagine if this happened in the U.S.? DU would have to create an entire forum for Chavez conspiracies.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jun-22-11 12:51 PM
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2. Hugo, please don't die.
The conspiracy nuts will have a field day. At least it was in Cuba. Imagine if this happened in the U.S.? DU would have to create an entire forum for Chavez conspiracies.
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Wow. That was quick.
Mr. Wiggum gets his 11,987,654th brownie point from franksolich.
Thank you, sir!
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Pelvic abscess? Is that a nice way of saying he has his head up his ass?
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Wow. That was quick.
Mr. Wiggum gets his 11,987,654th brownie point from franksolich.
Thank you, sir!
Shit.
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Shit.
Not to worry, sir; your own collection of brownie points is awesome, too.
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Shit.
Beat you by thirty seconds. :tongue:
That was the only thread I could find about it. I'm sure we'll have Beth & the other Hugo lovers commenting soon.
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Beat you by thirty seconds. :tongue:
That was the only thread I could find about it. I'm sure we'll have Beth & the other Hugo lovers commenting soon.
Yeah, that's what I'm looking forward to.
But given the weather, I'm not up to taking out the boat and rowing over to Skins's island, myself.
Thank you! to all.
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Beat you by thirty seconds. :tongue:
That was the only thread I could find about it. I'm sure we'll have Beth & the other Hugo lovers commenting soon.
Actually, I haven't seen Judi Lynn over there in a while. That pelvic abscess might be her mouth chemically bonded to Hugo's penis.
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-22-11 03:51 PM
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2. Hugo, please don't die.
The conspiracy nuts will have a field day. At least it was in Cuba. Imagine if this happened in the U.S.? DU would have to create an entire forum for Chavez conspiracies.
**** you, DUmmie. You assholes cheer the news of the deaths or illnesses of good and decent people, and then you have the nerve to send best wishes to a ****ing tyrant? Just shut the **** up. :banghead:
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Shit.
Go into DUmmie mode and demand Franksolich re-distribute half the brownie point to you. :-)
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Just asked my wife for the definition of "pelvic abscess" because she is a nurse.
"a what"? A "pelvic abscess", dear. "Oh, that's not good"!
Apparently this is a condition where a tear develops inside the rectum. Fecal matter enters and forms a festering pocket like a little shit filled water balloon. It pops. Bad things happen. You go septic, quick.
They have to open you up and flush it all out, boost you full of a staggering amount of antibiotics and install a colostomy bag upstream from the blowout. Your colon is left outside of your body, marinating in an antibiotic soup for awhile as your nether regions are continually flushed out. Odds are good that you are toast as infections like this spread like wildfire.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. :fuelfire:
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**** you, DUmmie. You assholes cheer the news of the deaths or illnesses of good and decent people, and then you have the nerve to send best wishes to a ****ing tyrant? Just shut the **** up. :banghead:
^ Bump.
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Just asked my wife for the definition of "pelvic abscess" because she is a nurse.
"a what"? A "pelvic abscess", dear. "Oh, that's not good"!
Apparently this is a condition where a tear develops inside the rectum. Fecal matter enters and forms a festering pocket like a little shit filled water balloon. It pops. Bad things happen. You go septic, quick.
They have to open you up and flush it all out, boost you full of a staggering amount of antibiotics and install a colostomy bag upstream from the blowout. Your colon is left outside of your body, marinating in an antibiotic soup for awhile as your nether regions are continually flushed out. Odds are good that you are toast as infections like this spread like wildfire.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. :fuelfire:
Wow, I'm glad lunch was sufficiently digested after reading that.
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Oh, going septic means you are a dead man. Game over.
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Just asked my wife for the definition of "pelvic abscess" because she is a nurse.
"a what"? A "pelvic abscess", dear. "Oh, that's not good"!
Apparently this is a condition where a tear develops inside the rectum. Fecal matter enters and forms a festering pocket like a little shit filled water balloon. It pops. Bad things happen. You go septic, quick.
They have to open you up and flush it all out, boost you full of a staggering amount of antibiotics and install a colostomy bag upstream from the blowout. Your colon is left outside of your body, marinating in an antibiotic soup for awhile as your nether regions are continually flushed out. Odds are good that you are toast as infections like this spread like wildfire.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
"Karma" is a concept invented by some half-witted heathens while they waited for their H1B visas to arrive. But it is a fitting situation for Yugo to suffer.
If lurking DUmbasses wonder if we rejoice in the painful end of a socialist dictator, I can only speak for one person: yes.
And I'm glad he's being treated in a dirty, primitive Cuban hospital.
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"Karma" is a concept invented by some half-witted heathens while they waited for their H1B visas to arrive. But it is a fitting situation for Yugo to suffer.
If lurking DUmbasses wonder if we rejoice in the painful end of a socialist dictator, I can only speak for one person: yes.
And I'm glad he's being treated in a dirty, primitive Cuban hospital.
I can only hope Michael Moore heeds his own advice next time he gets sick or injured and flies his fat ass down to Cuba for treatment. "Sicko" was all about how our healthcare system sucked, and how Cuba's was top notch. Yeah.....right. :whatever:
http://www.therealcuba.com/Page10.htm
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I can only hope Michael Moore heeds his own advice next time he gets sick or injured and flies his fat ass down to Cuba for treatment. "Sicko" was all about how our healthcare system sucked, and how Cuba's was top notch. Yeah.....right. :whatever:
http://www.therealcuba.com/Page10.htm
The problem with that, sir, is that after 50 years of socialist dictatorship, one doesn't suppose Cuban medical personnel are too adept in handling problems of the obese.
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The problem with that, sir, is that after 50 years of socialist dictatorship, one doesn't suppose Cuban medical personnel are too adept in handling problems of the obese.
Nor the obtuse.
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I'd bet Judi Lynn will have an anxiety attack before the night is over.
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Pelvic abscess = Gonorrhea?
The thing rotted off so they went ahead with the rest of the "change over" operations? :-)
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A few more responses from my link above:
rabs (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-22-11 05:31 PM
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5. Photo from Sat., June 18
(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/fjAnuxE2YkTNm2AWE_M.PQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD02MTI7cT04NTt3PTQ2MA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/abd0c3339c1f7d0df00e6a70670017be.jpg)
Chavez foes, domestic and international, can judge for themselves.
As can his millions of supporters.
And his several thousand supporters at the DUmp. :whatever:
hack89 (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-22-11 05:43 PM
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6. The question is what is his underlying illness
the news story says that what he was operated on is just a symptom of a more serious underlying disease. I have seen relatively healthy looking cancer patients for example - that picture does not really answer the question of just how sick he really is.
JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-22-11 05:46 PM
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8. Or, of course, if he has one.
Edited on Wed Jun-22-11 05:46 PM by JackRiddler
Because it's not like Murdoch-WSJ would want to make imminent-death propaganda out of a mere abscess.
hack89 (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-22-11 05:50 PM
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9. You must admit that it is not like Chavez to stay out of the public eye
a mere abscess would not prevent a remote TV or radio broadcast to allay the concerns of his people.
JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-22-11 05:44 PM
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7. Wall Street Journal, home of Chavez death-porn fan fiction.
The wishful thinking is powerful in this one.
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Well, shit... that's where he's been. On vacation with his friends.
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Is this in a Cuban hospital or the food court at Mall of America?
(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/fjAnuxE2YkTNm2AWE_M.PQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD02MTI7cT04NTt3PTQ2MA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/abd0c3339c1f7d0df00e6a70670017be.jpg)
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The problem with that, sir, is that after 50 years of socialist dictatorship, one doesn't suppose Cuban medical personnel are too adept in handling problems of the obese.
Once again making the point that America is the only place in human history where the poorest, least productive, most useless members of society can be identified by their obesity.
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Not to worry, sir; your own collection of brownie points is awesome, too.
I have like, 5. :lmao:
Since you don't feel like it as of now, Frank, I'll do a bit of digging tonight at the DUmp. Already found something, but it's not related to the literal shitball.
Also, thanks for the post FreeBorn. Very informative.
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Oh great... If this guy dies, there will be threads about how the Freepers Killed Hugo for months on end at the DUmp... :rotf:
Maybe the problem is Doug's stupid Ex -- Seems she spreads potentially fatal illnesses wherever she goes...
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^ (http://dealseekingmom.com/files/2010/11/clorox-bleach.gif)
And I look forward to the threads. More sDUpid hilarity is upon us. :-)
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Michael Savage was thinking out loud when wondering what's going on with Chavez, he was wondering if maybe to curry favor with the US aka Obama that Cuba slipped a little something in Chavez's food LOL.
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Michael Savage was thinking out loud when wondering what's going on with Chavez, he was wondering if maybe to curry favor with the US aka Obama that Cuba slipped a little something in Chavez's food LOL.
In a third world shithole like Cuba, there's always a little something in your food.
Unfortunately, Venezuela is also a third-world shithole, so Yugo is probably immune.
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Two things: The photo looks like that cardboard cutout of Paul McCartney on the Sgt. Pepper's album. And, didn't Papa Castro fly in actual good doctors from Europe when he had his bout with death a few years ago?
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And, didn't Papa Castro fly in actual good doctors from Europe when he had his bout with death a few years ago?
No, Castro left Cuba and had his surgery in Spain.
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http://www.therealcuba.com/Page10.htm
The things at that site... I had no idea.
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The things at that site... I had no idea.
The pictures are nothing like as seen up close and first hand.
<<has seen "free medical care for all" up close and first hand. And touched it and smelled it too.
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No, Castro left Cuba and had his surgery in Spain.
Thanks, I knew Castro didn't trust Cuban doctors, so why didn't he tip off Chavez?
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The Hugo crew showed up:
Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-22-11 06:43 PM
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19. Really. The man sent his troops to fire directly into crowds of protesting citizens.
No one had any warning it was coming, they couldn't protect themselves.
This man NEEDED to be removed. He WAS removed. He was impeached, spent time in jail, and under house arrest.
Because of his efforts against Carlos Andres Perez, Hugo Chavez became a national hero, and here the US right-wing attempts to use the attempted coup against a mass-murdering asshole as talking point against him. Very strange twist, but predictable.
Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-22-11 06:45 PM
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20. So that whole "democratically elected" thing is really only in play
...after one sweeps into power via coup.
Uh huh.
Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-22-11 07:51 PM
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21. Take some time out to do your homework. Perez' mass murder is called "El Caracazo."
In February, 1989, he took the steps by slaughtering Venezuelans to pass the point of no return.
Hugo Chavez went to jail, served time, was pardoned by President Rafael Caldera.
Don't even imagine you are going to mislead anyone. Anyone who cares enough to have a valid opinion takes the time to find out the truth first.
JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-22-11 10:10 PM
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27. Uh, hello? Chavez did not come to power in a coup. He led a FAILED coup.
He went to prison for it.
He was pardoned years later, since the government he had tried to topple had murdered its citizens and its officials were in the end imprisoned (by another government, not by Chavez).
THEN, YEARS LATER...
Chavez won the 1998 election, and has been reelected in elections certified as fair and free by international observers ever since.
So either you're rubbing out the history... or you are showing us your cluelessness.
A smart move on your part would be not to snark (and dig your hole further) but just learn the facts and then come back and... apologize for getting the details wrong. It doesn't mean you therefore must support Chavez.
Come on now, show some character!
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-22-11 08:44 PM
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24. Chavez could fart kittens and cupcakes and people would still find a reason
to complain.
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-22-11 08:44 PM
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24. Chavez could fart kittens and cupcakes and people would still find a reason
to complain.
LOL!
But wait...I think Poor, stupid Beth has argued that he does just that.
Poor, stupid Beth, for some unknown reason, fancies herself a Latin American heroine.
I wonder...is she the whore of a conquistador, or a virgin Aztec princess, sacrificed to a sun god atop a jungle pyramid?
In her current incarnation, does Doug play the role of Montezuma, or Cortez?
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LOL!
But wait...I think Poor, stupid Beth has argued that he does just that.
Poor, stupid Beth, for some unknown reason, fancies herself a Latin American heroine.
I wonder...is she the whore of a conquistador, or a virgin Aztec princess, sacrificed to a sun god atop a jungle pyramid?
In her current incarnation, does Doug play the role of Montezuma, or Cortez?
That's one of the things that fascinates me about EMataHari, Doug's stupid ex-wife.
She's a lapsed Catholic, but it's still in her, and it's never going to be eradicated.
One of the principle tenets of Catholicism is to share in the sufferings of the suffering.
Which Doug's stupid ex-wife is doing, although in a rather perverted and grotesque way.
So as to "identify" with the suffering, she pretends to be a Latina, when in fact she's as northern Mediterraneac as Melissa Agrippina or Julia Octavia or Helena Augusta.
This way, by "being" one of the oppressed, she's "sharing" in their sufferings and afflictions.
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Pelvic abscess? Is that a nice way of saying he has his head up his ass?
One would hope so, and the "abscess" removed.