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Title: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: Freeper on June 21, 2011, 05:17:43 PM
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somone (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jun-21-11 04:29 PM
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Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
   
http://www.gallup.com/poll/148100/Hesitant-Support-Morm...

In U.S., 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Anti-Mormon sentiment hasn't eased since it was first measured in 1967
by Lydia Saad

PRINCETON, NJ -- Though the vast majority of Americans say they would vote for their party's nominee for president in 2012 if that person happens to be a Mormon, 22% say they would not, a figure largely unchanged since 1967.

The new Gallup poll, conducted June 9-12, finds nearly 20% of Republicans and independents saying they would not support a Mormon for president. That is slightly lower than the 27% of Democrats saying the same.

The largest differences in opposition to voting for a Mormon for president are by educational level, with adults who have not attended college more resistant than those with some college experience or college graduates. This educational pattern is seen in attitudes about voting for someone from almost all of the specific religious or demographic groups tested in the poll.

There are no significant differences on this question by gender, age, region of the country, or religious preference. Additionally, the views of Americans who attend their place of worship weekly are no different from those of less frequent attenders or non-attenders...
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jun-21-11 04:35 PM
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2. Don't know why. I, for one, would have no problem supporting
   
a strong progressive/liberal Mormon.













:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Like Harry Reid?

I wonder how many of these idiots know that Dingy Harry is Mormon.

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jun-21-11 04:55 PM
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8. IMHO the practice of Mormonism is incompatible with progressivism.
   
It is a VERY conservative religion, with no room for those who don't toe the line. If you are in good standing it is because you obey your bishop without question. If you do not obey, you are OUT.

Frankly, I happen to think the practice of Mormonism is fundamentally incompatible with our democracy, and it requires that people put obedience to church hierarchy above all else, including the Constitution.

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Adenoid_Hynkel (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jun-21-11 06:13 PM
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11. Mormonism = Scientology of the 1800s
   
complete with magic underwear and a Garden of Eden in Missouri.

Although, to be fair, all religions are equally stupid.
   

Even Islam? Why do you hate brown people? You racist.
 :-)
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: Vagabond on June 21, 2011, 05:33:06 PM
Mormon?  Who could they be talking about?  The rich guy that comes off like a cheap used car salesman or the Bureaucrat with McCain's stances and none of his resume or charisma?
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: miskie on June 21, 2011, 05:41:30 PM
I saw something interesting in this study - that the Primitives have yet to address...

"The largest differences in opposition to voting for a Mormon for president are by educational level, with adults who have not attended college more resistant than those with some college experience or college graduates."

20% of Republicans and independents saying they would not support a Mormon for president.
27% of Democrats saying the same.

Wait, what's this ? This poll suggests that Dems are less educated than Reps and Inds.. And at a percentage outside of statistical noise. oopsie.  :tongue:



Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: GOBUCKS on June 21, 2011, 06:45:10 PM
The same poll, just before Kennedy's election in 1960, had a higher number who could not support a Catholic.
Of course, he was elected by Mayor Daley's voters in Cook County, many of whom died during the 1918 flu epidemic.
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: jukin on June 21, 2011, 08:52:40 PM
Sounds like 22% of America are democrats and bigots but I repeat myself.
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: NHSparky on June 22, 2011, 08:00:08 AM
I don't distrust Huntsman and Romney because they're Mormons.

I distrust them because they're both as phony as a three-dollar bill.
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: renewal2012 on June 22, 2011, 08:57:00 AM
Both mormons and moslems have beliefs which simply disqualify the holder from any position of authority in civil society.
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on June 22, 2011, 09:08:22 AM
I don't have any particular problem with Mormons, though I personally regard the tenets of their faith to be about as plausible as Scientology's.  What I have a problem with is RINOs.
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: thundley4 on June 22, 2011, 09:11:49 AM
Harry Reid has said that he would support Jon Huntsman over Mitt Romney.  Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: NHSparky on June 22, 2011, 10:10:03 AM
Both mormons and moslems have beliefs which simply disqualify the holder from any position of authority in civil society.

And which beliefs might those be, dipshit?  Self-reliance?  Strong family values?  C'mon, give us some examples!
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: BlueStateSaint on June 22, 2011, 01:28:34 PM
I don't have any particular problem with Mormons, though I personally regard the tenets of their faith to be about as plausible as Scientology's.  What I have a problem with is RINOs.

Ditto.
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: Ptarmigan on June 22, 2011, 01:47:38 PM
I have issues with Romney. I have known Mormons, there are some of the nicest people you can come across.
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: miskie on June 22, 2011, 01:58:20 PM
I have no problems with mormons either - yeah, their religion is a bit on the eccentric side, but as a whole they are good people.
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: Karin on June 22, 2011, 02:04:32 PM
The only problem I have with Mormons is that they have no vices.  Their weddings are super boring.  Just send a gift and call it good. 
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: renewal2012 on June 22, 2011, 08:00:55 PM
And which beliefs might those be, dipshit?  Self-reliance?  Strong family values?  C'mon, give us some examples!

Yeppers, both mormons and muzzies have 'strong family values'. How else would any man put up with more than one wife at a time, eh.

That said- any loon who thinks he has the horse power to deserve a shot at g_ding his own Universe (or is it just a planet in this universe-BOM is kinda vague on that) or thinks himself such a badass for the 'faith' in this life that he deserves 72 honeys in the next is NOT the sort of person who should be placed in charge of anything, certainly not a Nation.
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: NHSparky on June 23, 2011, 08:16:21 AM
Yeppers, both mormons and muzzies have 'strong family values'. How else would any man put up with more than one wife at a time, eh.

That said- any loon who thinks he has the horse power to deserve a shot at g_ding his own Universe (or is it just a planet in this universe-BOM is kinda vague on that) or thinks himself such a badass for the 'faith' in this life that he deserves 72 honeys in the next is NOT the sort of person who should be placed in charge of anything, certainly not a Nation.

You realize that the Mormon church has disavowed polygamy for over a century, do you not?  That those who practice it have been excommunicated from the church?

Do they have beliefs that I think are a little off?  Yup--but as has been pointed out, Mormons are some of the most grounded, simple, honest-to-goodness people you'll ever want to meet.  Would that we take some of that and apply it to our own lives.
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: renewal2012 on June 23, 2011, 08:40:39 AM
You realize that the Mormon church has disavowed polygamy for over a century, do you not?  That those who practice it have been excommunicated from the church?

Do they have beliefs that I think are a little off?  Yup--but as has been pointed out, Mormons are some of the most grounded, simple, honest-to-goodness people you'll ever want to meet.  Would that we take some of that and apply it to our own lives.

Disavowed???????? Sure thing, say whatever to get Statehood........BUT DISCONTINUED???? Nah, polygamy among the LDS (not just FLDS) goes on to this day. Fairly common and open if you know where to look and who to ask. All done while keeping nominally in step with the letter of the law, but polygamy in practice. Another trait mormons share with muzzies is a willingness to deceive outsiders without the hint of a blush.
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: NHSparky on June 23, 2011, 08:41:39 AM
Again, show me where a practicing member of the LDS church in good standing is also a polygamist.

Just one example will suffice.

I spent a good portion of my childhood and teen years in heavily Mormon communities such as Price, UT; Montpelier, ID; Soda Springs, ID; Green River, WY; and Idaho Falls, ID.  Ask a practicing Mormon what they think of polygamy. 

THAT'S how I know you're full of shit, scooter.
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on June 23, 2011, 10:04:58 AM
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jun-21-11 04:55 PM
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8. IMHO the practice of Mormonism is incompatible with progressivism.
   
It is a VERY conservative religion, with no room for those who don't toe the line. If you are in good standing it is because you obey your bishop without question. If you do not obey, you are OUT.

Frankly, I happen to think the practice of Mormonism is fundamentally incompatible with our democracy, and it requires that people put obedience to church hierarchy above all else, including the Constitution.

Does this mean we can finally kick the dirt over "multi-culturalism"?
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: vadawg on June 23, 2011, 02:25:32 PM
Hopefully more than 50% will be hesitant to vote for the moron who is there now.  Bumper sticker should read Mormon before the Moron.
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: franksolich on June 23, 2011, 07:07:27 PM
Hopefully more than 50% will be hesitant to vote for the moron who is there now.  Bumper sticker should read Mormon before the Moron.

Good one, sir.

Awesome.
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: vadawg on June 24, 2011, 09:43:51 AM
Why thank you Franksolich, all i can say is im glad you didnt come after me whilst i was on the DU  :)     
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: franksolich on June 24, 2011, 10:00:35 AM
Why thank you Franksolich, all i can say is im glad you didnt come after me whilst i was on the DU  :)     

Well, I do recall that I quoted you some, but as you were making sense, there was no need for sarcasm, sir.

Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: BlueStateSaint on June 24, 2011, 10:05:49 AM
Well, I do recall that I quoted you some, but as you were making sense, there was no need for sarcasm, sir.



Hence, Coach is a man of honor. :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: vadawg on June 24, 2011, 10:06:23 AM
I think that was my downfall, probuably why my wife invited me on there, she figured that i would be better at showing common sense than her and i would get a kick out of the discussions.  I guess i didnt give enough bouncys as you call them or enough donations  lol     funnily i remember them celebrating my demise and then my wifes subsequent changing from a solid Dem vote to now voting Republican, i think we can call that a KO rather than an ippon or whatever such nonsense the Dump used.
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: franksolich on June 24, 2011, 10:07:07 AM
Hence, Coach is a man of honor. :cheersmate:

vadawg was the cop on Skins's island who was always getting bashed by the primitives.

Yes, he's legit.
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: vadawg on June 24, 2011, 10:12:41 AM
I think the issue they had with me was not my being a cop but rather that i had a job and that i didnt blame others for mistakes that i had made, though some on the DU where good people (Tangerine being one, though we disagreed a lot) i quickly figured the majority where nuts or just complete losers and then some where wired to the moon, Bobbo and UGP being the craziest at least in my mind.
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: Rebel on June 24, 2011, 10:14:29 AM
Bobbo and UGP being the craziest at least in my mind.

UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE YEAR!  :lmao:
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: franksolich on June 24, 2011, 10:19:08 AM
I think the issue they had with me was not my being a cop but rather that i had a job and that i didnt blame others for mistakes that i had made, though some on the DU where good people (Tangerine being one, though we disagreed a lot) i quickly figured the majority where nuts or just complete losers and then some where wired to the moon, Bobbo and UGP being the craziest at least in my mind.

Ah, Tangerine LaBamba of blessed memory.

She's my literary muse, sir.

She was a member here, but alas for too short a time.

I'll never forget it; it was near Christmas 2009, and I had gotten up in the middle of the night to let one of the cats outdoors.  It was one of those winter nights when the sky was filled with stars, and of course there were multi-colored lights flickering inside this house.  It was all very nice, very comfortable.

I logged on here to see what was going on, and lo and behold, there was Tangerine LaBamba herself, trying to figure out the layout of conservativecave.  She and some others and I had a long long long conversation, and it was delightful, it was as if an early Christmas present.

But then alas she departed this time and place a few days later.

By the way, sir, speaking as an outsider, I don't think the bobbling primitive and the subway cat were really the "craziest" primitives; EMataHari (sfexpat2000, now EFerrari) immediately comes to mind.  And of course Pedro Picasso (Atman) is by far the stupidest.
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: vadawg on June 24, 2011, 10:26:11 AM
sfexpat2000 and eferrara are one and the same, you know i never made the connection i figured the crazy was just infectious   :mental:   the ones that scared me the most where the teachers, kinda scared me that they thought that they where more important than the kids or the parents wishes.  gotta say i have spent the last couple of shifts trawling through the history of the dumpster reliving laugh my ass of memories.  Spending 12 hours just laughing my ass off
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: franksolich on June 24, 2011, 10:29:48 AM
sfexpat2000 and eferrara are one and the same, you know i never made the connection i figured the crazy was just infectious   :mental:   the ones that scared me the most where the teachers, kinda scared me that they thought that they where more important than the kids or the parents wishes.  gotta say i have spent the last couple of shifts trawling through the history of the dumpster reliving laugh my ass of memories.  Spending 12 hours just laughing my ass off

That's one of the purposes of the DUmpster, sir; light entertainment.

I haven't polled members lately, but last I figured, about 70% here read the DUmpster for amusement.

About 25% use the DUmpster as a means to respond to the allegations, claims, distortions, and lies of the primitives.

About 4% use the DUmpster for purposes of illumination before they infiltrate.

And then there's 1% who use the DUmpster for anthropological enlightenment.
Title: Re: Gallup: 22% Are Hesitant to Support a Mormon in 2012
Post by: GOBUCKS on June 24, 2011, 11:52:23 AM
Ah, Tangerine LaBamba of blessed memory.

She's my literary muse, sir.

She was a member here, but alas for too short a time.
Blessed memory? Coach, you forgot to use that stupid "sarcasm"  thingy from the DUmp.  Her infamous comment on 9/11: "When I heard Barbara Olsen was on that plane, I knew the day wasn't a total loss."

And her comment on the plan for a memorial at the site where Flight 93 went down in Pennsylvania:
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts)      Mon Jan-19-09 05:56 PM
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38. We must honor our dead,
and I cannot think of anything more fitting than a Brazilian BBQ buffet.
Maybe they could open one at that site?
 
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=8423697&mesg_id=8430405

She was a savage DUmbass of the most despicable strain the DUmp has to offer.

She did humanity a favor when she chose to end her miserable existence.

If she's a literary muse, she's Ian David's.