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Title: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: franksolich on June 20, 2011, 07:28:56 PM
Old-timers know this stuff; this is for new-timers.

I get a lot of personal messages from members who've started moles on Skins's island for the first time, or maybe their second or third time, expressing their unease with dealing with the primitives up-close and first-hand, rather than through the sanitizing wall of the DUmpster.  They're nervous, they're stressed, they don't think they can handle it (but would like to).

One can hardly blame them for their unease; the primitives are not exactly civilized.

If one has successfully got his toe onto Skins's island, established a mole, don't give up the opportunity.

If one is filled with fear, anxiety, and dread--utterly natural feelings for decent and civilized people--just back away.  The mole's been established, and it doesn't have to be used right way.  Just leave it alone, go on with life, and sometime sooner or later, one's going to be mentally "up", creatively enthusiastic, to using the mole.

One does not have to use a mole right away.

My fellow alum Skins has never said so, but it seems reasonable; one does not have to use a mole right away; one can wait.

So if one's new to this game, and got a mole set up, but is fearful and anxious, just back away, until a more opportune time.  Leave the mole sleeping.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: Tucker on June 20, 2011, 07:57:17 PM
If anyone has a mole, you never have to use it.

A great benefit is during elections and def-con 1. You will have access to the DUmp while the unregistered visitor won't.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: Chris_ on June 20, 2011, 08:01:33 PM
If anyone has a mole, you never have to use it.

A great benefit is during elections and def-con 1. You will have access to the DUmp while the unregistered visitor won't.

Bingo.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: Evil_Conservative on June 20, 2011, 08:03:37 PM
If anyone has a mole, you never have to use it.

A great benefit is during elections and def-con 1. You will have access to the DUmp while the unregistered visitor won't.

That's why I like having mine around.  It's just waiting for 2012.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: GOBUCKS on June 20, 2011, 08:27:06 PM
If anyone has a mole, you never have to use it.

A great benefit is during elections and def-con 1. You will have access to the DUmp while the unregistered visitor won't.
That is exactly true. Take it from me, if you post, you WILL be banned.
Dreamer Tatum is just the exception that proves the rule.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: ChuckJ on June 20, 2011, 08:45:37 PM
If you do decide to post with your mole try to refrain posting anything that makes sense or is just common sense.

As an example...
DUmmie: every time I cook a place my hand on the stove while it is hot and for some reason get burned.

Your reply should be along the lines of...
Your Mole: Ouch.
Your Mole: Wow.
Your Mole: I'll send you white light.

Never reply with...
Your Mole: Stop touching a hot stove.
Your Mole: Are you nuts?
Your Mole: You really are a dumbass.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: franksolich on June 20, 2011, 09:17:49 PM
If you do decide to post with your mole try to refrain posting anything that makes sense or is just common sense.

As an example...
DUmmie: every time I cook a place my hand on the stove while it is hot and for some reason get burned.

Your reply should be along the lines of...
Your Mole: Ouch.
Your Mole: Wow.
Your Mole: I'll send you white light.

Never reply with...
Your Mole: Stop touching a hot stove.
Your Mole: Are you nuts?
Your Mole: You really are a dumbass.

Good example, great example, sir.

Damn.  Awesome example.

But franksolich's rule still holds: my fellow alum has NEVER made a rule demanding that whenever a mole first registers, the mole MUST start commienting.

That is NOT a rule.

So if one's nervous, just back off, and go back later when one's more confident.

Bozo of Baltimore, the "Stinky the Clown" primitive, has a mole here on conservativecave, and he's doing all the right things.  I applaud him for that.  His purpose for being here is "opposition research," not to cause trouble.  In that department, Bozo of Baltimore is a smart man.  I think he learned from watching franksolich's mole on Skins's island, as I'm sure he knows who franksolich's mole is.  He's got to; he's been on Skins's island for a very long time now.

But because the sparkling husband primitive isn't breaking any rules, if an issue came up about him, franksolich would be the first to step up to bat for him.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: miskie on June 20, 2011, 09:25:17 PM
Do not respond to polls

Do not use DU's search feature for registered members.

Do not use the same photobucket account you use on other sites.

Do not log into DU using the same browser as you do on Conservative Cave- Use two browsers. Example: If you have both I.E. and Firefox, block DU access from one and CC access from the other.

Do not make your DU profile private - just put enough information in there  such that a casual perusal by an admin will tie the IP you log into DU with the town or city you live in. - Example: if you have an IP that lists as Boston, do not tell DU you live in San Francisco.

Use alert sparingly.

In other words, do not draw attention to yourself - be part of the faceless lynch mob. If your mole keeps getting highlighted here or on other sites, you are overplaying your hand.

If you get a PM wanting to meet you in real life - politely decline.

Do not resurrect an old thread - DU moves threads so rapidly that if your mole only responds to threads highlighted here or elsewhere days later, it will be noticed.

Use an email account for DU only with DU.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: franksolich on June 20, 2011, 09:37:57 PM
Do not respond to polls

Do not use DU's search feature for registered members.

Do not use the same photobucket account you use on other sites.

Do not log into DU using the same browser as you do on Conservative Cave- Use two browsers. Example: If you have both I.E. and Firefox, block DU access from one and CC access from the other.

Do not make your DU profile private - just put enough information in there  such that a casual perusal by an admin will tie the IP you log into DU with the town or city you live in. - Example: if you have an IP that lists as Boston, do not tell DU you live in San Francisco.

Use alert sparingly.

In other words, do not draw attention to yourself - be part of the faceless lynch mob. If your mole keeps getting highlighted here or on other sites, you are overplaying your hand.

If you get a PM wanting to meet you in real life - politely decline.

Do not resurrect an old thread - DU moves threads so rapidly that if your mole only responds to threads highlighted here or elsewhere days later, it will be noticed.

Use an email account for DU only with DU.

Rules from a professional; excellent, sir.

But the one about the search feature intrigues me; my mole's never used it, not because I knew such was a bad idea--but simply because intuition told franksolich, "don't use it."

I dunno why the intuition told me it--it had to be intuition, as until you mentioned it, I'd never heard about it--but obviously the intuition's good.

This by the way is why franksolich can so rarely find the bird-smacking stoned red-faced primitive, Chief S itting Bull, and comes across him only by chance.  franksolich doesn't use the "search feature" on Skins's island, and when one simply googles "Redstone" even specifically to democraticunderground, one gets all this garbage about some Hollywood personality.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: Ballygrl on June 20, 2011, 09:42:28 PM
Always logout of your account in case you accidently click a link from here while signed in.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: franksolich on June 20, 2011, 09:48:16 PM
Always Logout of your account in case you accidently click a link from here while signed in.

I use an option that isn't available to everybody, alas.

I never never never log on to Skins's island from this computer.  I lurk--obviously--on Skins's island from this computer, but I never log on to Skins's island from here.

When necessary, I go across the river to the home of the rich old grouch, who's usually gone anyway, and use his superduper agricultural-purposes internet service.  Or if I happen to be in town, I go to the home of a computer geek whose internet service provider doesn't show him as being up here on the roof of Nebraska.  And if I happen to be in the big city, I go and use a computer at an office, which has an ".edu" address.  And those rarer times, when I'm way out west, seeing the roving partner, I use his computer, another one of these superduper agricultural purposes internet service (he uses it for the automotive business and for the horse-trading business).
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: GOBUCKS on June 20, 2011, 09:54:30 PM
From another thread, an example of what not to do:
Quote
Balbus (1000+ posts)      Mon Jun-20-11 10:15 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. Well, just remember, that this is the site that coined the phrase...
"24 business hours"

DUmmy Balbus may survive, but only because Plagiarist Pitt has become such a laughingstock.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: Freeper on June 20, 2011, 09:56:47 PM
Some tricks I have used in the past, if you choose to post.
Find a post from a DUmmy who isn't quite in lockstep and challenge him or her on it politely.

For example DUmmy says I am not convinced that global warming is real.
Mole reply: There is scientific consensus  that Global warming is not only real, but as a result of the burning of fossil fuels.

Ask innocent questions.
 Dummy: I believe in MIHOP.
You: What does MIHOP stand for.
DUmmy; Made it happen on purpose, Bush was behind 9-11.
You: Now that you mention it, the whole 9-11 story never quite felt right, you may be on to something.

K and R the threads started by the popular kids.

Find posts in the lounge that share a common interest you have.
DUmmy: U2 is the best band ever.
You: Yeah they rock i saw them in concert back in 93. *Warning do lounge posts sparingly so you don't look like you are post padding.*

When you do post take the complete opposite position of what you really think odds are they will eat it up, just don't go too far.

Some don'ts

Never refer to any republican by their proper title and name.
 Example never say president Bush.
Start off by calling him Bush then slowly start working in the popular nick names the others use, Chimpy etc.

Never vote the wrong way in a poll.

Never disagree with any poster unless they say something that is unpopular at DU. For example if a DUmmy says that gays should not have the right to marry, then disagree, it helps to throw in some personal connection whether you claim to be gay yourself or you have a gay friend or relative.

Do not, no matter how much the temptation is, start a bouncy thread. if you want to try to sneak in a bouncy tale in another thread do so carefully.

Do not start I am debating a freeper and need help thread. If you want to sneak in some nugget of truth by saying a freeper said it, work it in to a thread someone else started.

Never bring over your own posts from DU to here. If your posts gets picked up by someone else it's best to not comment on it.

Other tips.

Use a separate browser for here and DU. Example: View and post here in Firefox. View DU only from Internet Explorer.

Never click on a link at CC from DU while logged in at DU. They actually can tell if you click on here to get a link to their site.




Most Important rule!!!!!!11111

never ever call the Democratic party the Democrat party.




Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: FreeBorn on June 20, 2011, 10:44:04 PM
He he he  :lmao: I am loving this whole thread. I've had a mole over there for the better part of a year now but mostly reserve myself to the Rip Van Winkle thing. Actually I can't believe I haven't been jettisoned yet as there have been times when I was sure I would be a goner for the daggers I've thrust there.

Perhaps it'e time Ol' Rip (not his real fake name) got out of his cave and went wilding again, no doubt this Farakhan flap as of late should offer many freshly plowed fields ripe for mayhem with enough ambiguity abounding to keep me sufficiently cloaked enough for a few quick jabs of the dagger. It's especially yummy when something like this breaks out and the DUmmies are all at each other's throats and there are no clear lines drawn.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: GOBUCKS on June 20, 2011, 11:19:32 PM
Most Important rule!!!!!!11111

never ever call the Democratic party the Democrat party.
Don't call a bouncy a bouncy.
Don't refer to DU as the DUmp.
Don't call a poster a DUmmy.
Don't call the president a jug-eared muslim. (Jug-eared messiah is okay.)
Never mention Obamacare.
Don't call the Kenyan "0bama".
Don't forget to capitalize democrat. The DUmp style is random capitalization, but always capitalize democrat....oops, I did it again.
Always show contempt for Christians (you must call them "Xtian"), Jews, Israel, and any other ally of the United States
Always express admiration for Fidel, Yugo, and Dinnerjacket. Stay neutral on Kim Jong il.
If you're not sure, ask yourself, "What would a decent and civilized person do?" Don't do that.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: Rebel on June 21, 2011, 07:45:26 AM
Don't call a bouncy a bouncy.
Don't refer to DU as the DUmp.
Don't call a poster a DUmmy.
Don't call the president a jug-eared muslim. (Jug-eared messiah is okay.)
Never mention Obamacare.
Don't call the Kenyan "0bama".
Don't forget to capitalize democrat. The DUmp style is random capitalization, but always capitalize democrat....oops, I did it again.
Always show contempt for Christians (you must call them "Xtian"), Jews, Israel, and any other ally of the United States
Always express admiration for Fidel, Yugo, and Dinnerjacket. Stay neutral on Kim Jong il.
If you're not sure, ask yourself, "What would a decent and civilized person do?" Don't do that.

...and defend Islam like your mole's life depended on it. Even if they started slaughtering women and gays by the thousands in Iran, your answer should be, "This is not indicative of the true, peaceful nature of Islam and should be viewed as such."
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: franksolich on June 21, 2011, 07:53:04 AM
Don't call a bouncy a bouncy.
Don't refer to DU as the DUmp.
Don't call a poster a DUmmy.
Don't call the president a jug-eared muslim. (Jug-eared messiah is okay.)
Never mention Obamacare.
Don't call the Kenyan "0bama".
Don't forget to capitalize democrat. The DUmp style is random capitalization, but always capitalize democrat....oops, I did it again.
Always show contempt for Christians (you must call them "Xtian"), Jews, Israel, and any other ally of the United States
Always express admiration for Fidel, Yugo, and Dinnerjacket. Stay neutral on Kim Jong il.
If you're not sure, ask yourself, "What would a decent and civilized person do?" Don't do that.

That's what's always made me RAOTFLMAO when watching the elmers out in the Wilderness discuss possible "freeper" moles on Skins's island.

They think our moles go over there and preach the same things we talk about on decent and civilized ground.

? ? ? ? ?

Now.....why would franksolich go to Skins's island to express franksolich's values and opinions?

Wouldn't that get franksolich banned, like, real quick?

It never occurs to them that our moles are the opposite, the total and complete and utter opposite, of what we really are.  For example, franksolich's mole doesn't say much, but about half the time when it speaks, it talks about the joy, the zest, the exhilaration, the ecstasy, one gets over abortion, and that it's too bad more people aren't as enthusiastic about it.

They just don't understand; one's mole from this place shows up on Skins's island the exact opposite of the way one really is.  And these are the smartest people on the internet?  What the ****?
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on June 21, 2011, 08:10:33 AM
Rules from a professional; excellent, sir.

But the one about the search feature intrigues me; my mole's never used it, not because I knew such was a bad idea--but simply because intuition told franksolich, "don't use it."

I dunno why the intuition told me it--it had to be intuition, as until you mentioned it, I'd never heard about it--but obviously the intuition's good.

This by the way is why franksolich can so rarely find the bird-smacking stoned red-faced primitive, Chief S itting Bull, and comes across him only by chance.  franksolich doesn't use the "search feature" on Skins's island, and when one simply googles "Redstone" even specifically to democraticunderground, one gets all this garbage about some Hollywood personality.

I don't know whether using the search function is a red flag or not.  I've had the same "mole" account for over 8 years, and have regularly used the search function while logged in with it.  Back when I compiled the year-end DUmmy wrapups, that's how I found some of the more interesting threads.

Perhaps someone has been caught in this fashion, I just know that I haven't.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: Ballygrl on June 21, 2011, 09:23:31 AM
Don't call a bouncy a bouncy.
Don't refer to DU as the DUmp.
Don't call a poster a DUmmy.
Don't call the president a jug-eared muslim. (Jug-eared messiah is okay.)
Never mention Obamacare.
Don't call the Kenyan "0bama".
Don't forget to capitalize democrat. The DUmp style is random capitalization, but always capitalize democrat....oops, I did it again.
Always show contempt for Christians (you must call them "Xtian"), Jews, Israel, and any other ally of the United States
Always express admiration for Fidel, Yugo, and Dinnerjacket. Stay neutral on Kim Jong il.
If you're not sure, ask yourself, "What would a decent and civilized person do?" Don't do that.

:lmao:

:clap:
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: DefiantSix on June 21, 2011, 12:12:36 PM
It never occurs to them that our moles are the opposite, the total and complete and utter opposite, of what we really are.  For example, franksolich's mole doesn't say much, but about half the time when it speaks, it talks about the joy, the zest, the exhilaration, the ecstasy, one gets over abortion, and that it's too bad more people aren't as enthusiastic about it.

They just don't understand; one's mole from this place shows up on Skins's island the exact opposite of the way one really is.  And these are the smartest people on the internet?  What the ****?

You wouldn't be using this example perchance, in an attempt to get at least 2 of the 3 Drek primitives lined up against the wall as accused moles, posing for tombstones, would you?  :whistling:  :-) :rotf:
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: BlueStateSaint on June 21, 2011, 12:31:30 PM
You wouldn't be using this example perchance, in an attempt to get at least 2 of the 3 Drek primitives lined up against the wall as accused moles, posing for tombstones, would you?  :whistling:  :-) :rotf:

H5 for thinking the same thing as I.  I was going to post that this morning, but I figured, let it develop.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: DefiantSix on June 21, 2011, 12:35:46 PM
H5 for thinking the same thing as I.  I was going to post that this morning, but I figured, let it develop.

And a H5 back at you, sir, for having greater impulse control than I do.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: BannedFromDU on June 21, 2011, 12:46:39 PM
Here are some of my recommendations as well:

1. Build a post count in GD itself - do not try to become a regular elsewhere. Become known or visible on GD first, then visit the other boards.
2. Do not choose a controversial avatar, or even an ironic one. Don't choose Marx, for example. Sports avatars are best.
3. Posting true "lefty" content is like bluffing in poker: you don't need to do it nearly as often as you think. One or two rabid or patently stupid posts of 50 is plenty.
4. Do not be hasty to start new threads. Let your count go into the 200s or so first.
5. Pick an "issue" that you can stomach to break your pick on, and make sure your stance is in the DU mainstream. Being anti-gun is palatable to some, and it pays to be known for one or two things on DU, even if you post often.
6. Do not resort to Philosoraptor-type names or spellings. "Rethuglikkkans" is unnecessary when "Rethugs" will do.
7. Do not engage oldtime DUers alone - wait until someone else calls them out, then pile on.
8. Do not be shy to use humor, but be sure that your humor fits within Skinner's guidelines.
9. Pick an innocuous DU bylaw to break, and break it more than once. Do not be afraid to have a couple of posts deleted, but just a couple.
10. Ape the usage of popular DU emoticons, e.g., the vomiting guy.


     That has helped...um...certain people...do well on DU.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: thundley4 on June 21, 2011, 12:52:14 PM
A classic example of how not to be a mole on Skin's Island.

Quote
Brianboru (218 posts)           Tue Jun-21-11 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #1
10. 0bama lies. He lied about Gitmo - still open. He lied about
   
ending the wars - he started two new ones.

He lied about gay marriage - he signed a questionnaire supporting it for political benefit, then changed his mind.

He lied about repealing the Bush tax cuts.

Seriously, who can trust this guy?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1337967
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: Ballygrl on June 21, 2011, 01:12:25 PM
What's the true purpose of the mole? is it to get inside info when you establish yourself? is it to eventually become a nuisance? is it just the satisfaction of getting 1 over on the other side? or is it to build your rep up enough and go out in a suicide run on the board?
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: Evil_Conservative on June 21, 2011, 01:12:42 PM
This thread has given me more reasons to use my mole.  I just wasn't sure how to fit in with those jackasses.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: thundley4 on June 21, 2011, 01:27:37 PM
What's the true purpose of the mole? is it to get inside info when you establish yourself? is it to eventually become a nuisance? is it just the satisfaction of getting 1 over on the other side? or is it to build your rep up enough and go out in a suicide run on the board?

Yes.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: Rebel on June 21, 2011, 01:37:42 PM
What's the true purpose of the mole? is it to get inside info when you establish yourself? is it to eventually become a nuisance? is it just the satisfaction of getting 1 over on the other side? or is it to build your rep up enough and go out in a suicide run on the board?

When they go into Defcon mode, they shut down all access to outsiders. Moles come in handy then.  :evil:
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: Ballygrl on June 21, 2011, 01:53:26 PM
Thanks for the replies :lmao:
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: BannedFromDU on June 21, 2011, 01:56:41 PM
What's the true purpose of the mole?


To have fun, first and foremost. There would be no need for moles if DU had similar free speech policies to those it claimed George Bush got rid of.

The greatest use of the mole, in my estimation, is to flush out the DUmmies. To get them to own up to silly opinions, conspiracies, and so forth. All it takes is the subtlest of pushes, and the angle of repose steepens. From that point, much hilarity ensues, and maybe, if you're crafty, you can get two DUmmies to go to war with each other.

As someone who has stirred that pot several times, I recommend it with great relish.


Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skiin's island
Post by: franksolich on June 21, 2011, 02:27:01 PM
You wouldn't be using this example perchance, in an attempt to get at least 2 of the 3 Drek primitives lined up against the wall as accused moles, posing for tombstones, would you?  :whistling:  :-) :rotf:

Man, you have no idea how much I wish I could.

There's some people who are primitives, and there's some people who are trash.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: franksolich on June 21, 2011, 02:30:37 PM
What's the true purpose of the mole? is it to get inside info when you establish yourself? is it to eventually become a nuisance? is it just the satisfaction of getting 1 over on the other side? or is it to build your rep up enough and go out in a suicide run on the board?

I dunno about anybody else, but I myself, have nothing but the most noble and honorable motives, untainted by malice or self-interest.

That, purely for the advancement of anthropological knowledge.  Nothing more.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: BannedFromDU on June 21, 2011, 02:39:48 PM
I dunno about anybody else, but I myself, have nothing but the most noble and honorable motives, untainted by malice or self-interest.

That, purely for the advancement of anthropological knowledge.  Nothing more.


     But Frank - someone has to be the eel that stimulates the fish you observe. If they all settled down without any provocation, we'd be left with Judi Lynn's Venezuelan onanism and the slow, now-unfunny death spiral known as Beth. We already lost Pam Dawson!
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: franksolich on June 21, 2011, 02:43:57 PM

     But Frank - someone has to be the eel that stimulates the fish you observe. If they all settled down without any provocation, we'd be left with Judi Lynn's Venezuelan onanism and the slow, now-unfunny death spiral known as Beth. We already lost Pam Dawson!

I was being facetious there, sir.

Actually, all motives for being a mole on Skins's island are noble and principled, others no less than mine.

As Lord Baring said circa 1924, the primitives need to feel the lash.  The lash might turn a tiny few of them into decent and civilized people, and half-civilize a few more.  But as for most of the primitives, they need to feel the lash simply because they're primitives.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: BannedFromDU on June 21, 2011, 02:45:22 PM
I was being facetious there, sir.

Actually, all motives for being a mole on Skins's island are noble and principled, others no less than mine.

As Lord Baring said circa 1924, the primitives need to feel the lash.  The lash might turn a tiny few of them into decent and civilized people, and half-civilize a few more.  But as for most of the primitives, they need to feel the lash simply because they're primitives.

Oh, they feel the lash, alright. Just before getting up in the morning and several times during the day.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: Ballygrl on June 21, 2011, 05:10:09 PM

To have fun, first and foremost. There would be no need for moles if DU had similar free speech policies to those it claimed George Bush got rid of.

The greatest use of the mole, in my estimation, is to flush out the DUmmies. To get them to own up to silly opinions, conspiracies, and so forth. All it takes is the subtlest of pushes, and the angle of repose steepens. From that point, much hilarity ensues, and maybe, if you're crafty, you can get two DUmmies to go to war with each other.

As someone who has stirred that pot several times, I recommend it with great relish.

Oh! that's good.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: Freeper on June 21, 2011, 05:11:06 PM
What's the true purpose of the mole? is it to get inside info when you establish yourself? is it to eventually become a nuisance? is it just the satisfaction of getting 1 over on the other side? or is it to build your rep up enough and go out in a suicide run on the board?

Back when I used to mole, I did it for fun and as a way to counter some of their posting by using their own talking points against them. Oddly enough they hate it when someone points out when they are being hypocrites.  :-)

My best mole job was when I said I had just returned from Iraq and I got to blast the assholes who posted bad things about the military.
They loved the idea of a soldier coming back from Iraq being a flaming lib. I ended up getting banned not for any post I made, but I clicked on a link from CU to DU while my mole was logged in.

Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: miskie on June 21, 2011, 05:53:12 PM
What's the true purpose of the mole? is it to get inside info when you establish yourself? is it to eventually become a nuisance? is it just the satisfaction of getting 1 over on the other side? or is it to build your rep up enough and go out in a suicide run on the board?

For me, the mole(s) I may or may not have - as I will neither confirm or deny their existence - is to stir up paranoia amongst the primitives. Paranoia that results in genuine primitives getting banned. Posting things that make primitives suspicious of other primitives is fun.

And though I will neither confirm or deny moles, I will confirm that I have never been banned by DU.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: franksolich on June 21, 2011, 05:56:41 PM
Paranoia that results in genuine primitives getting banned. Posting things that make primitives suspicious of other primitives is fun.

Uh huh.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: BannedFromDU on June 21, 2011, 06:08:40 PM
One more thing:

Do not call out an obvious troll on DU. It could be an unskilled or careless mole. You should take the high road and say "unrec" or "flamebait" or
"alerted." This makes you appear to care about decorum, which goes a long way with people who have banning power on DU.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: Tucker on June 21, 2011, 06:09:08 PM
At our old home, my mole became the confidant of a well know DUmmy. I shared the messages with someone that is here now and who knew my identity. It was nothing earth shattering, but it could have led to something important.

Get to be friends with them. Get them to divulge secrets or useful info. Stuff like when Anne Pritchett is going to be at a conservative book signing and alert the right people. Anne is a big Code Pink supporter. They follow Rove around trying to do a citizens arrest. The queen pink moonbat tries to handcuff herself to Rove every chance she gets.

You never know.



Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: Mr Mannn on June 21, 2011, 06:37:56 PM
Wow. I've broken a number of the rules and I'm still there...

Or have I? Maybe I'm just saying that to divert attention... Maybe this thread is a diversion from whats REALLY going on.

How do you DUmmies know? You don't.

Thats said, take this for what it's worth: Don't start threads until you have the magic 1000 number. To many DUmmies a thread started at say post 100 is a sure sign of a mole. Even real liberals get beat up by their peers for breaking the unnamed rule.

After 1000 DU considers you safe and you can get away with all sorts of things...as long as you're careful.
Everything in moderation. Even old timers get the Pizza.

after 1000, I still follow many under cover rules. Never ever post in a poll. Unless you take the PC approach.
Remember DUmmies are no more free to express their opinions than we are. They are paranoid and will report you in a millisecond. They are sissified tattle tales.

Some threads you just KNOW to stay out of. No mater how tempting.
Go with your gut feeling.

Never make fun of an atheist. In spite of all the Christian and Jew bashing that goes on, never point out the hypocrisy: seriously. even in plain English, these brain dead worms would still not get it.
An old mole of mine was banned on a Christian bashing thread for making atheist jokes...
"Q) Whats the difference between a busload of intolerant atheists and a porcupine?
A) On a Porcupine the pricks are on the outside."


that was it. Thats all I did. Bottom line DUmmies can dish it out but they can't take it. They will go running to mommy (mods) the first chance they can get.

DUmmies are the rejects of the Socialist elite. Daily Kos gets a Vegas vacation with free entertainment and champagne. DUers get gold stars. When you walk amongst poop-flinging monkeys, its best to look like a monkey.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: Tucker on June 21, 2011, 06:44:11 PM
Something else.

I don't know if this is a taboo but I never start a thread here that I have posted in over there.

I never quote in a thread here one of my posts from there.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: delilahmused on June 21, 2011, 07:02:22 PM
I so admire those of you who have moles over there, especially long term ones. I couldn't do it, it would offend my tender sensibilities.

Cindie
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: Freeper on June 21, 2011, 07:22:25 PM
For me, the mole(s) I may or may not have - as I will neither confirm or deny their existence - is to stir up paranoia amongst the primitives. Paranoia that results in genuine primitives getting banned. Posting things that make primitives suspicious of other primitives is fun.

And though I will neither confirm or deny moles, I will confirm that I have never been banned by DU.

I've been banned several times. In fact there were 2 or 3 that got banned before I could make the first post.
In hindsight choosing the handle, Fat Che, was probably not a good idea.  :-)

On a side note when they first opened the place up they did let conservatives post for a bit. I had maybe 10 posts or so before I got the axe.  :-)
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: GOBUCKS on June 21, 2011, 07:59:33 PM
Stuff like when Anne Pritchett is going to be at a conservative book signing and alert the right people. Anne is a big Code Pink supporter. They follow Rove around trying to do a citizens arrest. The queen pink moonbat tries to handcuff herself to Rove every chance she gets.
(http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/ac32/gobucksnumbers/rachel-corrie-pancake-breakfast-lg.gif)
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: Mr Mannn on June 21, 2011, 08:58:36 PM
Ya know its funny that according to their own rules, they can't even discuss this thread.

You just know they are reading it. But they.can't.say.a.word...
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: franksolich on June 21, 2011, 09:10:57 PM
Ya know its funny that according to their own rules, they can't even discuss this thread.

You just know they are reading it. But they.can't.say.a.word...

Yep, lots of lurking primitives have seen this thread.

I'm sure the link to here's been personal-messaged all over Skins's island.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: Revolution on June 21, 2011, 09:27:05 PM
Who's going to break the rule. There are many instances where it is not broken, but I don't think your prediction of "No more mention of the Cave" is quite wound totally down yet, Frank. This is just the kind of thread to get them talking. Get them to slip up. Maybe an up, and comer gets hot under the collar via PM, and mentions this very thread in GD. I've no idea, but that's it. That's all it takes. My spine shivers in anticipation just thinking about it. :shucks:
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: franksolich on June 21, 2011, 09:32:01 PM
This is just the kind of thread to get them talking. Get them to slip up. Maybe an up, and comer gets hot under the collar via PM, and mentions this very thread in GD. I've no idea, but that's it. That's all it takes. My spine shivers in anticipation just thinking about it.

This is one of those cases when I'm testing out the ParGen, sir, the primitive paranoia generator.

By the way, I'm going to be launching "Mrs. Alfred Packer does the 4th of July" sometime later this week.

It's a little early, but I'm rather proud of it.  This will be the first time I've done a second draft of a story and posted it here (they've always been hastily-written first-drafts), and this one is finely sculpted and refined.  It's really remarkable, how much different a second draft can be from a first draft; it's turned out nothing the way I had planned it.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: JLO on June 21, 2011, 09:37:10 PM


By the way, I'm going to be launching "Mrs. Alfred Packer does the 4th of July" sometime later this week.

It's a little early, but I'm rather proud of it.  This will be the first time I've done a second draft of a story and posted it here (they've always been hastily-written first-drafts), and this one is finely sculpted and refined.  It's really remarkable, how much different a second draft can be from a first draft; it's turned out nothing the way I had planned it.

I'm looking forward to that   :-)  You are quite the storyteller, I must say.   :cheersmate:
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: Revolution on June 21, 2011, 09:37:47 PM
Will certainly be looking forward to it. (And I hope you didn't reveal something in the first paragraph that you werre trying to keep secret on account of me.) However, primitives hasve very sor attention spans, so it may not be a problem at all.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: GOBUCKS on June 21, 2011, 09:50:57 PM
I think even know-it-all nadin is looking forward to coach's new story. She made an indirect reference to his genre in her Murican post:

Quote
yes they do stupid shit like run explosive dogs


Most of the people and things in a franksolich story are ultimately explosive.

Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: franksolich on June 22, 2011, 08:01:49 AM
I think even know-it-all nadin is looking forward to coach's new story. She made an indirect reference to his genre in her Murican post:
 

Most of the people and things in a franksolich story are ultimately explosive.



Well, "Mrs. Alfred Packer does the 4th of July" will have an explosive ending, I promise you--after all, it's the 4th of July.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: franksolich on June 22, 2011, 08:24:39 AM
(And I hope you didn't reveal something in the first paragraph that you werre trying to keep secret on account of me.)

I advertised, publicly, here about three weeks ago that the ParGen, the primitive paranoia generator, existed.

It was inspired by GOBUCKS, and I had recently put it together, and was testing it, and it was exceeding my wildest expectations, so I revealed its existence.

And then last week, I got all worried because it seemed I had carelessly targeted it on the grasswire primitive, making a little old lady nervous, when I had no intention at all of making a little old lady nervous.

Anyway.

There are members here--Tucker and GOBUCKS the best example--who can play the primitives like a harp; they know the right strings to pull, the right tunes they want the primitives to yelp.

Damn.  Talk about artists.  Talk about artists with a skill and a flair.

There are other members here--franksolich and USA4ME the best example--who can only slam a sledge-hammer down on the primitives, nothing more than that.  True, a sledge-hammer is a pretty effective instrument, but we need to learn to play the primitives like Tucker and GOBUCKS do, because some months ago the two of us targeted a certain group on Skins's island that's a peril to the Republic, and are at kind of a loss at how to play them.  We don't want to hammer them; we want to play them, and would like to be playing them by the time the presidential campaign gets started in spring 2012.

(Note to the sparkling husband primitive: you aren't one of them.)

The ParGen, the primitive paranoia generator, is but one tool we'd like to use, but it's still being refined.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on June 22, 2011, 08:33:41 AM
Something else.

I don't know if this is a taboo but I never start a thread here that I have posted in over there.

I never quote in a thread here one of my posts from there.

Absolutely, good catch.  I've started DUmp threads and made some provocative posts, but NEVER brought them here or CU.  If they're good enough, someone usually picks them up anyway.
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: Ree on June 22, 2011, 01:17:40 PM
I was banned so many times they banned every IP addy from the college I was goin to..;
Title: Re: hint for all those with moles on Skins's island
Post by: franksolich on June 22, 2011, 02:14:31 PM
I was banned so many times they banned every IP addy from the college I was goin to..;

Yeah, I remember that.  Good times, good times.

I myself recently gave the elusive enigmatic Elad another clue about franksolich's mole--I dunno why he can't find me, as I don't exactly hide--saying that, when in the big city, I use an ".edu" ISP.  Well, there's not many ".edu" addresses in the big city, because the big city, by standards other than in Nebraska, isn't a big city; it's a small town with a small community college.

If there's a primitive at that small community college, and if Elad saw my clue, probably the primitive's gone.

Oh well. 

Excresence happens.