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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on April 20, 2008, 03:39:02 PM
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first, the OP's post. How did I know this would turn out bad?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x7670894
Wcross (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-20-08 10:54 AM
Original message
I am going Coyote hunting this evening- wish me luck!
Advertisements [?]They are getting too close to the house, I am concerned for the safety of my pet dogs & cats. Last night I saw three right in the treeline 100 feet from the house. Normally I leave ALL wildlife alone, I do not hunt or fish. I even leave venomous snakes alone (unless they are hanging around my yard). I can't take the risk that they will leave my cats alone, I have tried keeping the cats inside but they run outside sometimes. I have six smaller sized dogs that would have no chance alone against Coyotes. I have a couple of dogs who are braver than they are smart, an elderly dog who still thinks he can kick ass & a pup who is "pup stupid". I hate to kill anything but they are a clear danger to my animals.
I know why they are here too but there is little I can do to change their behavior. Down in the Valley there is a chicken farm. Normal procedure for the farmers is to remove any dead chickens daily from the barn & place them in a 55 gallon drum for burning. They wait until the drum is full before they burn them. The Coyotes have figured it out as an easy source of food.
anti-gun hating bitch shows his 'luv'.
Paladin (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-20-08 03:00 PM
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25. Bullshit.
A chance to use those precious firearms of yours in some bloodletting? I think you're absolutely horny at the prospect.
Some of us have been reading your posts at DU for a long time. We're not deceived. There are bound to be some non-lethal measures you can take to protect your pets;you're just not interested in implementing them. May the coyote population grow and prosper in your neighborhood....
and another;
Blarch (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-20-08 01:48 PM
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6. WTF ?
You decided to live where the coyotes live ...and now you think you have to kill them off ?
Disgusting. utterly disgusting
Blarch (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-20-08 02:06 PM
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8. Who was there first ?
If he moved to a area with coyotes while he had small dogs then he is foolish.
The coyotes don't threaten him at all ...but since he insists on moving to a area with coyotes and insists on having small dogs ...he believes the innocent coyotes should die.
**** that. I also live near coyotes, yet I have large dogs ...The coyotes have killed about 12 chickens and a goat over the years, but I would never ever think of shooting them, I moved onto their turf. Think about it ...The only reason the coyotes have to die is because he insists on having small dogs.
The OP is disgusting. I always love it when the hunters shoot themselves, I love the irony.
that's because you are a *****, Blarch.
Blarch (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-20-08 02:09 PM
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10. So you admit.
The coyotes are not a threat to you....just your pets.
I must ask, what 'city' do you live in ?
Blarch (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-20-08 02:17 PM
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14. From my experience...
1 large dog can keep coyotes away...I have 3 and have no problem, the coyotes don't want to tangle with a dangerous dog.
But from what I can tell, The poster has ten dogs and some cats. ..NONE of them capable of keeping the coyotes away..
I can assure you that this person DOES NOT live in any city with all those dogs..and living next to a chicken farm.
So the people here defending killing a coyote in the middle of a city ...I agree with you, but this IS NOT the case here.
The ONLY reason the coyotes will die tonight is because he insists on have a house full of small dogs.
For gods sake, the coyotes haven't even killed anything yet ...yet he wants them dead.
I would bet, if blarch's pets get killed, he'll bitch to the government to solve his problems. Also, he'd bitch about his 'rights'...but deny anyone elses. A true liberal.
Blarch (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-20-08 02:30 PM
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20. This is what I have learned about you from this thread.
You own small dogs...this leaves you with 2 choices about where you want to live.
You can move to the city and not worry about coyotes killing your dogs...or you can move to the country and just kill the coyotes when you see them.
You made the choice to live in the country and just kill the coyotes.
If you already lived in the country ...and wanted dogs...then you still made the choice..you can get large dogs so the coyotes won't be a problem, or you can get small dogs and just kill the coyotes.
Either way ...You were presented with a choice...and you chose to kill coyotes. Tonight you will find a mother coyote looking for food for her young, you will shoot her dead, her orphaned pups will starve and die a horrible death in their den, take a bow.
what. a. *****.
English Lady (239 posts) Sun Apr-20-08 03:04 PM
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26. I'm so pissed off at you
I have sheep, cow/calf pairs, horses and free range laying hens and also ducks. Not to mention 6 cats and two dogs. We are surrounded by coyotes and they give us no trouble. We need them to go after the rocks chucks, gophers and mice. It's plain ignorance to kill them!
OK, I own 1000 acres and I don't poison or harm in anyway the coyotes natural prey. Deer hunters are told to **** off. When my chickens die from natural causes I don't leave their bodies kicking about. My dogs are both airedales and my cats are savvy and also some are very elderly, they hunt gophers in the meadow all day long. Cattle are unmolested by the little coyotes, my cows ignore them when they hunt mice in the meadows right next to the calves.Just giving you a little clue how life can be when your open minded, live with nature instead of being fearful and ignorant.
We farm for real and we're not ****ing about here.
In your situation I'd get a huge dog to protect the little ones. There is a breed of dogs that was breed to keep wolves away from sheep. Look it up. Also some illegal firecrackers shuts the coyotes up at night when their having a singsong to close to the house, although yelling at them works as well. There are many thing's to try before doing something so stupid as killing.
I would imagine your neighbors, who are real farmers, don't like you much. Cows hunting mice? Frank? WTF?
Some sort of meat eating english cow, may-hapse?
mike_c (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-20-08 03:28 PM
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32. I wish the coyotes could shoot back....
Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 03:29 PM by mike_c
Sorry 'bro-- I think you should reconsider and MOVE if you and your pets can't coexist with the wildlife or simply accept some risk of mortality if that's where you want to live. I too live in coyote country, in a small rural town in norcal. We even get occasional reports of mountain lions in town at night. I have indoor/outdoor cats that I love more than most humans I know, and so far none have been killed by predators (in ten years, knock on wood). Still, living with wildlife is one of the costs of living here and I moved into their territory, not the other way around.
I've struggled with small mammals for YEARS here-- skunks and raccoons mostly, but also fox and opossum that enter my house through the cat door most nights and trash it occasionally. I relocate them when I can, but I won't kill them no matter how much they inconvenience me. The world doesn't exist for my convenience. Just my $0.02. If you're looking for advice, trap the coyotes and relocate them (and understand that if you want to live in their habitat, you'll have to trap and relocate forever).
**** you mike. I'm just hoping my agent orange kicks up when youa re around.
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Typical asshat libs. The Coyotes are more important then someones family and pets. They also seem to fail to understand that those same coyotes they want to save can and have become a large problem if left unchecked with any small animal around a home like a cat or small dog. Those same coyotes have been running loose for years and with all the people like those libs moving into the rural areas of our country there are going to be more encounters with them.
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re-reading this, I assume the coyotes are hunting the mice.
Good Lord, can't the DUmmies be english majors once, instead of womyn's studdies?
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You know, it would help if the original posting primitive had given some idea, some vague idea, of his location, so the reader could understand what sort of coyotes the primitive is dealing with.
Nebraska is famous for coyotes, but in real life, they're pretty tiny things, the biggest no larger than a really scrawny medium-sized dog, and usually smaller.
There's coyotes around here, but the cats Abbie, Snow, Junior, Apricot, Floyd, Gordon, Harold, George, Ellie, and Leo generally keep them at bay, on the other side of the river.
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We had coyotes back home. I saw them now and again while walking through our back yard (10 acres up against state forest). They never where any problems though. We had a Rottie, a small mutt, and 2 geese. We let them roam outside without any fear of danger (hell, our neighbors dog was the one that actually killed one of the geese).
I understand and support the need to hunt them if they are being a nuisance. But only if they begin to prove to be a nuisance. They aren't attacking his lively-hood, like chickens or whatnot, he's just afraid of the risk to his pets. So he should take steps to keep his pets under control. Not snuff out their life because of a possible risk to his pets.
And before you jump on me, I'm an avid sportsman. I do hunt and fish.
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Go ahead and shoot 'em. "It's the circle of life."
:rotf:
However, I doubt he gets more than one shot ever at that treeline, coyotes are pretty quick learners.
Around my home turf, they are a moderate threat at calving, when the mother cow may be too weak to defend her calf. Not as many have goats but they are pretty common, and coyotes are a much bigger threat to them. Quite a few folks keep a burro, they will aggressively fight off four-legged intruders. Unfortunately the burros are about equally agreeable to people, you pays yer money and you takes yer choice.
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Just put a fetus head on a coyote and they will be fine with it. :bird:
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A longhorn will f*** a coyote up.
I have an opportunity to chime in on a guided coyote hunt in south Texas in Nov for $300. The guides average about 10 dogs per hunt. I'll shoot one just for you Bugsy.
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I think I would shoot my dog just to piss of bugsy. :bird: He is such a huge bitch.
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Put that coyote or racoon or what evere else near a damn piping plover and the bombing of Nagasaki seems tame to what happens.............****ing piping plovers
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You know, it would help if the original posting primitive had given some idea, some vague idea, of his location, so the reader could understand what sort of coyotes the primitive is dealing with.
Nebraska is famous for coyotes, but in real life, they're pretty tiny things, the biggest no larger than a really scrawny medium-sized dog, and usually smaller.
There's coyotes around here, but the cats Abbie, Snow, Junior, Apricot, Floyd, Gordon, Harold, George, Ellie, and Leo generally keep them at bay, on the other side of the river.
I was thinking the same thing about location, Coach, as the eastern coyotes are pretty big. We manage to at least shoot at one each deer season at the camp I belong to, and we've gotten one the last two years. Yes, I've sent lead in their directions, and each time, my attempt at "traumatic lead poisoning" the coyotes went awry. (Damn things can run fast.)
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Of course anyone is well within their rights to shoot dangerous wild animals coming on to their property, and of course those hypocritical jackasses are way out of line, but what else the the OP expect posting on DU? Honestly, he may as well come out and say he only has sex with his wife and they're keeping the baby. ::)
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Of course anyone is well within their rights to shoot dangerous wild animals coming on to their property, and of course those hypocritical jackasses are way out of line, but what else the the OP expect posting on DU? Honestly, he may as well come out and say he only has sex with his wife and they're keeping the baby. ::)
H5! :rotf: :lmao:
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So they wish the OP death? Tolerant much DU??? *eyeroll*
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Sorry but I can't believe a DUmmie would own 1000 acres, when some of them say it should be illegal to own a house over 350 square feet.
English Lady (239 posts) Sun Apr-20-08 03:04 PM
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26. I'm so pissed off at you
I have sheep, cow/calf pairs, horses and free range laying hens and also ducks. Not to mention 6 cats and two dogs. We are surrounded by coyotes and they give us no trouble. We need them to go after the rocks chucks, gophers and mice. It's plain ignorance to kill them!
OK, I own 1000 acres
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Of course anyone is well within their rights to shoot dangerous wild animals coming on to their property, and of course those hypocritical jackasses are way out of line, but what else the the OP expect posting on DU? Honestly, he may as well come out and say he only has sex with his wife and they're keeping the baby. ::)
They would hunt him down and shoot him for that.
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Once the coyote figures he can order cool stuff from the Acme corporation, like rocket-powered roller skates, it's all over for that DUmmie.
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Some pretty harsh responses..what a happy bunch... :mental: