Depends on who it is. If it is Romney I'm going third party but there are other fairly liberal republicans who would still be a better choice than Obama.
Depends on who it is. If it is Romney I'm going third party but there are other fairly liberal republicans who would still be a better choice than Obama.
I'm unsure what I will do. My tendency has always been that a RINO is better than a communist, but I've changed in the last few years. I'm a conservative. My vote is not a sure thing for Republicans.That is the way I see it. No to Romney.
Romney IS a liberal. His Supreme court choices won't be any better than Obama's. He agrees with the democrats on every issue, including health care...If he gets the nod, I'm either gonna sit this out of vote for a 3rd party.
Not even a conservative Veep will get me to support a RINO anymore.
I know the argument that a vote for a 3rd party is a vote for Obama. But what else am I going to do?
Romney and Obama see to take the same path. I respect neither one.
and one last note. I refuse to vote for that lunatic Ron Paul. Libertarians will never have my vote.
If no true conservative runs, then there is no reason for me to vote at all.
The poll options assume a true conservative runs.
If we get a republican controlled senate and house, a RINO in the Whitehouse wouldn't be to bad...and I remember what Ross Perot gave us. A cigar smoking "fat girl in a thong chaser" and his lesbian wife who said "WE are the President."
Well now that depends.... On how many RINOs are in the senate and house at the same time. We need more "conservatives" not just folks with an R behind their name.
IMO.
For those who would vote third party or write in, may I remind you of the other Jug Eared Champion, who ran against the RINO, Read my Lips, Bush the Elder, giving us Willy the Sick, despoiler of the realm. Good job.
Ruthless Ross sure did know them charts and graphs, hey? And don't even get me started on the Ronulans. Good grief. Save all the drama for your dump moles. If your uber conservative candidate cannot deliver the Republican Nomination they are no better than a Perot or Paul, a spoiler.
Save yourself the trouble of writing in Elmer Fudd, just check Obama, then go peacefully away, secure in the knowlege that you have helped destroy the evil RINO. But, please remember, Ronald Reagan was a card carrying Democrat for years before he had his Damascus moment, would you have voted against him too on that basis as well?
And, if you are voting third party, does your determined course of action also contain the obligatory "I'll leave the country" if candidate X loses? Now there is a viable Wishado. If candidate X wins I need money to move to country Y. :hammer:
For those who would vote third party or write in, may I remind you of the other Jug Eared Champion, who ran against the RINO, Read my Lips, Bush the Elder, giving us Willy the Sick, despoiler of the realm. Good job.
Ruthless Ross sure did know them charts and graphs, hey? And don't even get me started on the Ronulans. Good grief. Save all the drama for your dump moles. If your uber conservative candidate cannot deliver the Republican Nomination they are no better than a Perot or Paul, a spoiler.
Save yourself the trouble of writing in Elmer Fudd, just check Obama, then go peacefully away, secure in the knowlege that you have helped destroy the evil RINO. But, please remember, Ronald Reagan was a card carrying Democrat for years before he had his Damascus moment, would you have voted against him too on that basis as well?
And, if you are voting third party, does your determined course of action also contain the obligatory "I'll leave the country" if candidate X loses? Now there is a viable Wishado. If candidate X wins I need money to move to country Y. :hammer:
If we get a republican controlled senate and house, a RINO in the Whitehouse wouldn't be to bad...and I remember what Ross Perot gave us. A cigar smoking "fat girl in a thong chaser" and his lesbian wife who said "WE are the President."
^ Just curious, what major differences are there between Clinton and Obama?
I honestly will vote for Elmer Fudd if it means getting rid of 0bama.I have to agree with Freeper, but it's going to be tough to hold my nose and vote for Romney. The problem for me is that however liberal a RINO might be, they at least aren't as socialistic as Obama. And I feel that they would probably have more competent cabinet members.
Yes I know a RINO can be damaging, but I would think he (not going to say she since all the females that could run are not RINOs) would have to be better than 0bama.
The country is at a moral and political crossroad.
Voting for a Democrat or Republican is no choice. For decades, they've been
one and the same. Maintaining their security with a game paid by the masses.
I only answered "unsure" because if a viable conservative runs as a third-party candidate and actually has a chance to win, I would vote for them. That scenario isn't very likely, but a lot can happen in a year and a half.
3rd Party
It all depends on 'Which RINO' for me, so I went with 'Sit it out.' I actually would vote for most of the RINOs, but there are a couple for which I just can't say I could really do it.
You think we can survive another 4 years of the rookie?
Nope, but I will not vote for a repug who I damn well know will continue the Plan to ruin America.
Wow, really? :whatever:
Just considering that a couple of Supreme Court justices may retire is enough to vote for any RINO over any Demonrat.
Just considering that a couple of Supreme Court justices may retire is enough to vote for any RINO over any Demonrat.
I'll hold my nose and vote RINO. "Third Party" gave us Clintoon.
But what if the third party is a Conservative?
I'll hold my nose and vote RINO. "Third Party" gave us Clintoon.
I would trade 12 years of The Klintoons for the Bush2 and BHO fiascoes in a heartbeat.
How old were you when Clinton was president?
Quite likely old enough to be your daddy.
But what if the third party is a Conservative?
Not likely, however you clearly weren't paying much attention during the Clinton years.
Now I would take Billy-Jeff over Obama, but there is no way in hell I would take him over GWB.
Or what if a RINO is selected as the Repub nominee and the Tea party backs someone like Trump as an independent. Trump could possibly win enough states to prevent either party from gaining a plurality. Then the House of R. would decide. It would get very interesting if that scenario happened provided Tea party candidates made huge gains in the House.
Actually quite likely that you are kinda young if you have sooooo little background that you are unable to see Dubya for the pee poor excuse for a prez that he was.
That's where I am going with this. What if the Republicans can't help themselves, again, and select a RINO, and a conservative gets pissed off enough, to run third party? Someone like Palin, Cain, Bachman?
I dont think it will happen. If anybodys goin 3rd party ... its the RINO this time.
Clinton was soooo much better, you wish you have him for another twelve years. Uh-huh.
:yawn:
Certainly better than Bush2 aka The AWOL flyboy or BHO aka The Kenyan.
That's where I am going with this. What if the Republicans can't help themselves, again, and select a RINO, and a conservative gets pissed off enough, to run third party? Someone like Palin, Cain, Bachman?
Certainly better than Bush2 aka The AWOL flyboy or BHO aka The Kenyan.
AWOL flyboy?
:rotf:
Gosh, my apologies. I had you pegged for a Dr. Ron worshiper. You are a leftist, and a extremely daft one at that.
Carry on misfit.
Well littlebigmouthed man you are about a third-right. I DO have a high regard for Ron Paul, but not anywhere near the level of worship. I believe he is wrong about the importance he attaches to gold for example. As to leftist and daft????? I expect you tell yourself that about anyone who annoys you by displaying a sound grasp on Reality which you on your best day will be unable to even halfway match. The dotd are right there in the public record for connection- Bush2, he of the idiot smirk and serial business failure was AWOL from the air guard.........but hey thats ok, right? since Bush2 is a ,conservative' :lol:
Is there another one amongst us? :banghead:
Lots of smartassedness from a newbie.
Sigh.
So it would seem, yes.
Renewal, not that it matters that much, but formerlurker is a gal.
Secondly, she does a marvelous job of defending herself and her points of view so I won't tread that much here, but when you get beyond your bullshit blustering and actually post some documented evidence as to Bush2's "AWOL" status, perhaps your credibility might inch a notch or two above the sewer level.
Well littlebigmouthed man you are about a third-right. I DO have a high regard for Ron Paul, but not anywhere near the level of worship. I believe he is wrong about the importance he attaches to gold for example. As to leftist and daft????? I expect you tell yourself that about anyone who annoys you by displaying a sound grasp on Reality which you on your best day will be unable to even halfway match. The dotd are right there in the public record for connection- Bush2, he of the idiot smirk and serial business failure was AWOL from the air guard.........but hey thats ok, right? since Bush2 is a ,conservative' :lol:
I would trade 12 years of The Klintoons for the Bush2 and BHO fiascoes in a heartbeat.
Klintoon gave us the market drop at the beginning of Bush's first term, try again.
June 22, 2011
Clinton Unzipped: One of the Worst Presidents Ever
By Stella Paul
Conventional wisdom has it that Bill Clinton was a flawed man, but a good president. Let's blast that claptrap to smithereens with a Fast and Furious AK-47, because Bill Clinton was an unadorned calamity for our national security, and, in all probability, remains one to this day.
In the last week, we learned some piquant facts about Clinton's associates: First, his wife's most intimate aide, Huma Abedin, has a Saudi mother and brother who are both prominent members of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Glamour girl Abedin accesses our most sensitive national secrets through her longtime, joined-at-the-hip relationship with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. This jihadist penetration into our government's innermost sanctums is A-OK with Bill Clinton, who risibly presided over Abedin's wedding to proud pervert Anthony Weiner.
And then there's Clinton's former chief of staff, CIA chief Leon Panetta, who we now discover may be hiding a colorful past of Communist entanglements. Naturally, Panetta's odd choice of friends proved no impediment to his confirmation as Secretary of Defense; the Senate just unanimously approved him.
This Unholy Trinity in the news -- Weiner, Abedin, and Panetta -- brings back memories of the many splendored treacheries of the Clinton years. It seems just yesterday that Bill and Hill were guzzling down illegal campaign contributions from China and handing them advanced military technology in exchange for cash. And who can forget the Clintons' most heinous betrayal of all, which was...what, exactly?
We'll probably never know because Sandy Berger took care of that. Remember him?
There aren't enough Conservatives to secure the win. Unless this Conservative appeals to the middle (the middle being independents, and moderate R/D), then forget it -- just hand the keys back to the messiah and call it a day.
The former penis in charge did other bad things, too, in concert with his commie wife. The troll(s) should appreciate this: >>>
And then there's Clinton's former chief of staff, CIA chief Leon Panetta, who we now discover may be hiding a colorful past of Communist entanglements. Naturally, Panetta's odd choice of friends proved no impediment to his confirmation as Secretary of Defense; the Senate just unanimously approved him. >>>
Uh, no he wasn't.
My assessment of you stands. You are DU material, actually they have better material... you aspire to be DU material.
believe what you will fool.
Well littlebigmouthed man you are about a third-right. I DO have a high regard for Ron Paul, but not anywhere near the level of worship. I believe he is wrong about the importance he attaches to gold for example. As to leftist and daft????? I expect you tell yourself that about anyone who annoys you by displaying a sound grasp on Reality which you on your best day will be unable to even halfway match. The dotd are right there in the public record for connection- Bush2, he of the idiot smirk and serial business failure was AWOL from the air guard.........but hey thats ok, right? since Bush2 is a ,conservative' :lol:
Well littlebigmouthed man you are about a third-right. I DO have a high regard for Ron Paul, but not anywhere near the level of worship. I believe he is wrong about the importance he attaches to gold for example. As to leftist and daft????? I expect you tell yourself that about anyone who annoys you by displaying a sound grasp on Reality which you on your best day will be unable to even halfway match. The dotd are right there in the public record for connection- Bush2, he of the idiot smirk and serial business failure was AWOL from the air guard.........but hey thats ok, right? since Bush2 is a ,conservative' :lol:
Lurker, I think we have another happy customer! :lmao:
Hey, Tool, try not to let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, m-kay?
believe what you will fool.
lol.
I blame Lewrockwell.com for this. Just say no kids, that stuff will rot your brain.
My my that sounds soooooo very DU- truth is dangerous and will rot your brain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just more documentation as if anymore were needed that the insane clown partisans of bolshevik 'progressive' marxism and neoconned menshevik 'conservatism' are simply two sides of the same rotting chunk of statist pork. Y'all, can't even be bothered to disagre all that much on just which decent folk shoul be gunned down, robbed and anal probed by the minions of 'law' enforcement ever on the lookout for terrorist grandma's in wheelchairs and their toddler cohorts.
No rant- just a small dose of truth for those blindly bent on self-destruction. Sadly you people may well take down all of America with you.
Y'all, can't even be bothered to disagre all that much on just which decent folk shoul be gunned down, robbed and anal probed by the minions of 'law' enforcement ever on the lookout for terrorist grandma's in wheelchairs and their toddler cohorts
Nice sig there Firechild.TY Janice :cheersmate:
:cheersmate:
Just say no to Romney. RINO extraordinaire
Unsure...depends on the RINO. I could gladly vote for McCain because of his past service to our country and his outstanding VP choice. SOME people running for the GOP nomination, if they get it, well, I'll sit out the election.
Doubt AZ is going blue, with or without my particular vote, but there are some folks I cannot stomach who claim to be Republicans.
You really believe that we are statists who agree with the TSA here? Just look around. You will find none of us match that accusation, troll.
Lets just say so far I see no reason to believe that many here oppose TSA for what it does- shredding the Constitution as it harasses the American People. Any opposition I expect is based entirely on a partisan opposition to the TSA's Boss BHO being in charge of anything.You would be wrong, but it sounds like you're used to that.
Lets just say so far I see no reason to believe that many here oppose TSA for what it does- shredding the Constitution as it harasses the American People. Any opposition I expect is based entirely on a partisan opposition to the TSA's Boss BHO being in charge of anything.
Under BHO TSA is a useless and dangerous fraud (which needs to be 100% shutdown with full criminal punishment for those who committed what would ordinarily be considered crimes while hiding under the cover of 'duty'), just as it was under Bush2.
Lets just say so far I see no reason to believe that many here oppose TSA for what it does- shredding the Constitution as it harasses the American People. Any opposition I expect is based entirely on a partisan opposition to the TSA's Boss BHO being in charge of anything.
Under BHO TSA is a useless and dangerous fraud (which needs to be 100% shutdown with full criminal punishment for those who committed what would ordinarily be considered crimes while hiding under the cover of 'duty'), just as it was under Bush2.
RINO!
I sound like a broken record BUTIt's the Supreme Court people!
Kennedy has said he'll retire after the next election, you want another Sotomayor or Kagan on the Court to replace him?
And it's been pointed out above that it's no guarantee that a Repub president would appoint a conservative justice. Look what happened to Kennedy - appointed by Reagan in 1988, he's been largely a swing voter and cannot be assumed to vote a conservative POV on the cases he's reviewed.
I'll absolutely grant you that there's no question that Barry would appoint another socialist to SCOTUS in the same vein as Sotomayor and Kagan so I'm more than willing to throw Barry's ass out of office to keep that from happening -- but putting a Repub in there doesn't guarantee another Kennedy from happening.
And it's been pointed out above that it's no guarantee that a Repub president would appoint a conservative justice. Look what happened to Kennedy - appointed by Reagan in 1988, he's been largely a swing voter and cannot be assumed to vote a conservative POV on the cases he's reviewed.
I'll absolutely grant you that there's no question that Barry would appoint another socialist to SCOTUS in the same vein as Sotomayor and Kagan so I'm more than willing to throw Barry's ass out of office to keep that from happening -- but putting a Repub in there doesn't guarantee another Kennedy from happening.
The senate made their full intentions known they would block any conservative that Reagan nominated (Bork). For a truly conservative SCOTUS nomination we will need to secure both the WH and the Senate in 2012.
Yes, Kennedy is a swing vote but at least he seems to side with the right most of the time. Souter was another pain in the butt pick made by a Republican, but I highly doubt that a Republican President will appoint anyone even close to Sotomayor and Kagan.
Uhh no, George W. Bush was widely criticized by conservatives for the bailouts. Also, no one here is a fan of anyone's police state. If you had bothered to look around this forum, you would have seen no one here worshiped Bush. Until you back up your accusation, you are just a bullshitter.
Ummm, fellow CCers, I so rarely get to use the cutest icons, so indulge me here and
:trolls:
Oh but madam, we're feeding him.
Mouthfuls, we're feeding him.
Check the last several pages of the thread in the "Mind Numbing Stupidity" forum.
Are you serious? there were many Republicans who were furious at things Bush did, in particular Bush allowing the Democrat majority to spend like drunken sailors which in turn caused the majority of problems we're going through now. His always wanting to be a gentleman and want to get along attitude was infuriating.
Even before that, criticism about his open border policy was almost unanimous. I do not recall many conservatives being a fan of No Child Left Behind either.
... we were some of Bush's harshest critics.
Are you serious? there were many Republicans who were furious at things Bush did, in particular Bush allowing the Democrat majority to spend like drunken sailors which in turn caused the majority of problems we're going through now. His always wanting to be a gentleman and want to get along attitude was infuriating.
^ Just curious, what major differences are there between Clinton and Obama?
Besides color?
Looking through nolimits post history, and that one begged an answer. Pissy little fruitloop, isn't he?
Looking through nolimits post history, and that one begged an answer. Pissy little fruitloop, isn't he?
Most of them are. I just love drive-by Poopers and Scooters. I'll bet he even drags his butt on the carpet like my dog does.
You think he's gone back to his asylum and posted links to his thorough (and predictable) ass busting yesterday?
:-)
Most of them are. I just love drive-by Poopers and Scooters. I'll bet he even drags his butt on the carpet like my dog does.