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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on June 11, 2011, 09:39:16 AM
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-10-11 10:27 PM
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Draft maps of California redistricting are out and it looks good for Dems
Check out Daily Kos Elections for the scoop. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/06/10/983971/-Califo...
There's a lot of information to process, but in a nutshell, this could lead to no less than 5 pickups in the House for Democrats in 2012, maybe more if we have good candidates and campaigns.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1273956
Just wait when some other states do theirs and the DUmmies find out the GOP may pick up some seats, there will be cries of fraud, cheating, and on and on.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1273956
Just wait when some other states do theirs and the DUmmies find out the GOP may pick up some seats, there will be cries of fraud, cheating, and on and on.
Didn't that just happen in Ohio?
I'm thinking Kookcinich lost "his" district.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1273956
Just wait when some other states do theirs and the DUmmies find out the GOP may pick up some seats, there will be cries of fraud, cheating, and on and on.
You should watch this DUmmie. See what it has to say when Texas gets done! LOL
KC
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You should watch this DUmmie. See what it has to say when Texas gets done! LOL
KC
Same in MI. It's being redrawn to pit dem against dem.
Just as this state turns Red, I'm leaving.
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Thank God we are moving back to Texas. I literally feel like we are jumping off a sinking ship.
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You should watch this DUmmie. See what it has to say when Texas gets done! LOL
KC
The hoots and howls were amazing to behold.
The dems are still suffering spasms.
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We lost a congressional district here in MO. With veto proof majorities (required, due to our governor's decision to veto), we passed a district map that now pits two Democrats near St Louis against each other.
We fell short of a few votes in the Missouri House to override the veto, and ended up requiring four votes from democrats. Four black democrat house representatives chose to vote with the Republicans, to protect the congressional seat in St. Louis that is currently held by a black Democrat. One of the black Democrats justified his vote in favor of the map by stating that "I'm black before I'm a Democrat."
:racist:
Missouri will be a 6R-2D state, down from being 6R-3D.
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Nebraska, as it did before, has three congressional districts, but shifts in population required some realigning of boundaries.
The first is Omaha, very pale pink, the second is Lincoln, medium pink, and the third is the other three-quarters of the state, very deep red.
Democrats hoped that Omaha could be made at least very pale blue (0bama carried the district in 2008, much to the shame and embarrassment of the state), even at the cost of making Lincoln dark pink.
What happened was that Omaha became pale pink, moving up from very pale pink.
Lincoln became dark pink, moving up from medium pink.
The boundaries of the districts are, as required by law, compact and geographically consistent.
Too bad for the Democrats, but Nebraska's a small state, and Democrats in big states with many more seats have been doing this for decades, for two or three generations.
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The bare facts are that Republicans control redistricting in 202 districts. Democrats have control in 47. Other ("independent" commissions, etc) control 179.
The last numbers I saw were that 50 Republican incumbentswere likely to benefit from redistricting, while Democrats will only have 15 incumbentsbenefit.
The 800-pound redistricting gorilla continues to howl and beat his chest, in spite of the primitives throwing a kumbaya party over one state.
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Frank,
I forgot to add that Cook Political has now listed Ben Nelson is the most vulnerable Democrat incumbent running in 2012. :popcorn:
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Frank,
I forgot to add that Cook Political has now listed Ben Nelson is the most vulnerable Democrat incumbent running in 2012. :popcorn:
Yeah, vulnerable he is.
Ben Nelson is the reason that if one's conservative, and the choices are between a RINO and a conservative Democrat, one should vote for the RINO.
The bottom line is, political parties own their candidates, and when push came to shove, Ben Nelson proved the liberal Democrat party owned him.
But Ben's pretty old anyway; I'm surprised he's even thinking of running.
The latest (R) candidate for the Republican nomination is a cowboy from the Sandhills, Deborah Fisher, currently a state senator.
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Yeah, vulnerable he is.
Ben Nelson is the reason that if one's conservative, and the choices are between a RINO and a conservative Democrat, one should vote for the RINO.
The bottom line is, political parties own their candidates, and when push came to shove, Ben Nelson proved the liberal Democrat party owned him.
But Ben's pretty old anyway; I'm surprised he's even thinking of running.
The latest (R) candidate for the Republican nomination is a cowboy from the Sandhills, Deborah Fisher, currently a state senator.
The problem with a RINO is, if they vote with the dems every-time anyway, how is that better than having a dem?
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The problem with a RINO is, if they vote with the dems every-time anyway, how is that better than having a dem?
My key quote, sir, "when push comes to shove."
On all things essential, unity; on all other things, freedom.
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The bare facts are that Republicans control redistricting in 202 districts. Democrats have control in 47. Other ( "independent" commissions, etc) control 179.
As it always is in political matters, the word "independent" is a synonym for "bullshit".
In every case, independent commissions are controlled by whichever party gets to appoint the members.
Here in red state hell, we could refer every single decision to an independent commission, and it would be exactly the same as if made by our elected rethugs. I'm sure the same principle applies in blue cesspools like California.
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The problem with a RINO is, if they vote with the dems every-time anyway, how is that better than having a dem?
It goes like this: RINOs give the Republicans a majority. Therefore, the Republicans control the legislative agenda, not the Democratics.
:tongue: to the DUmb**** lurkers ("Democratics")
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Funny, when one looks at the most gerrymandered districts in the country, aren't they mostly favoring Democrats?
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It goes like this: RINOs give the Republicans a majority. Therefore, the Republicans control the legislative agenda, not the Democratics.
Having a party majority is way more important than how an individual votes on a given bill. The majority party, even by one seat, controls every single committee by a large margin, and decides whether a bill ever sees the light of day for a vote.
And the worst, the very, absolute worst, most liberal-leaning, most hated and scorned, banned-from-FR, leftist, near-Stalinist Republican still votes with us 90% of the time. But if we can't get 100%, we'd rather give the seat to a blue dog democrat who votes with us 10% of the time. We're smarter than the DUmmies, right?
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Gerrymandering created a safe district for one of the best members of Congress, Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee, and pushed an adjacent democrat district into the red column. It's hard to imagine a stranger looking district map.
(http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/ac32/gobucksnumbers/TN07_109.gif)
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Texas is still under the jurisdiction of the DoJ under the Voting Rights Act. I fully expect Texas to be sued big time in order to carve out minority districts for Mexican Americans. It is all the rage in Houston to scream for 2 seats for Mexican Americans. Problem is, the Black activists are screaming "under representation" and warn of dire results if black districts are diluted for voting purposes. Mexican acivists are screaming that Latinos are the majority in Houston now and want 2 seats. Redistricting is going to
a massive fight on race which the Feds were suppose to eliminate with the VRA. You think Holder is going to want to touch this in Texas when Blacks would actually lose seats in Texas that are legacy districts?
Pop the corn and chill the beer. :cheersmate: :popcorn:
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Sadly I live in Kalifornia with the highest sales tax, highest personal income tax, and the least friendly business climate. Guess what that got us?
The highest unemployment, the highest budget deficit, and net outflows of both business (in fact they are leaving in droves) and population. This is what regressives do to a healthy economy.
BTW I live in what is called the ribbon of shame district that only has the coast of central Kalifornia and we have a former school nurse that has an IQ of slightly less than 80 as a sure and reliable vote for the hard left agenda of bankrupting the USA. She toured a plant here that is working on organic LCDs (DuPont Co.). At one point in the tour she asked, and I shit you not, "Where do you grow the LCD screens?" The president dropped his jaw and the whole place went silent for a few seconds. Then He got his composure, did not answer her asinine question and moved along with the tour of the factory.
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Sadly I live in Kalifornia with the highest sales tax, highest personal income tax, and the least friendly business climate. Guess what that got us?
The highest unemployment, the highest budget deficit, and net outflows of both business (in fact they are leaving in droves) and population. This is what regressives do to a healthy economy.
BTW I live in what is called the ribbon of shame district that only has the coast of central Kalifornia and we have a former school nurse that has an IQ of slightly less than 80 as a sure and reliable vote for the hard left agenda of bankrupting the USA. She toured a plant here that is working on organic LCDs (DuPont Co.). At one point in the tour she asked, and I shit you not, "Where do you grow the LCD screens?" The president dropped his jaw and the whole place went silent for a few seconds. Then He got his composure, did not answer her asinine question and moved along with the tour of the factory.
LOL! I would have told her the secret was to not plant them too deep.
KC
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Gerrymandering created a safe district for one of the best members of Congress, Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee, and pushed an adjacent democrat district into the red column. It's hard to imagine a stranger looking district map.
Until the 1980 census, district 7 had been held by Democrats for over a hundred years.
I wonder what it looked like before then.