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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Skul on June 11, 2011, 12:40:53 AM
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Seems the kiddies on the left that squealed like little pigs for Ms. Palin's e-mails, are having second thoughts.
The worms fell all over themselves to browse and dig for dirt.
They really haven't found much, so, they must manufacture some sort of false outrage.
Seems the e-mails were released in their full context.
Now the primatives are crying foul because the e-mails are complete.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1272677
Segami (1000+ posts) Fri Jun-10-11 06:27 PM
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Sarah Palin Uses EMAIL DUMP To RELEASE Critics Personal Information
" As the media swarms over Sarah Palin’s emails has anyone thought to ask why the personal information of those who wrote emails critical of Palin was not redacted?
Some very ugly things are going to come out of these emails and not against Sarah Palin. Frankly I’m very disturbed by her legal team’s choices in what I’m reading. Sarah Palin and her legal team spent two and half years combing these emails for pages they wanted to withhold and for redactions to protect the privacy of some people. But you want to know whose information they left in?
-I feel sorry for those media members who traipsed to Alaska thinking that they were going to get unfettered information. What we are seeing in these emails is an attempt by Palin and the people who were appointed by her and working for her in Alaska to create a narrative of revenge and the victimization of Sarah Palin.
The people who emailed Palin have all had their names, email addresses, addresses, and in some cases phone numbers made public in this email dump. This is a problem for those who sent her criticism like the email below:
>snip<
Small campfire right now. Should get better.
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OOPS! Be careful what you ask for DUmmies.....
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This is one of the most ridiculous articles I've read in a long time. Even more ridiculous than Politico's "I totally made up a quote and said Sarah Palin said it" "non-apology" apology today. You people are unraveling and the world is watching.
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CNN finding that Palin was hard-working governor
Link (http://www.therightscoop.com/cnn-finding-that-palin-was-harding-working-governor/)
This is a great video by CNN showing that they are finding nothing so far other than awesomeness about Governor Palin. Sarah Palin is exactly what she’s represented herself to be and this appears to be backfiring on the MSM. Kudos to this reporter on CNN for representing the truth of what they are finding.
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Fri Jun-10-11 07:04 PM
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6. I am afraid for these people.
All it takes is one Jared Laughner and one gun.
You mean, a democrat on democrat shooting?
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You mean, a democrat on democrat shooting?
Ouch.
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Those emails to Governor Palin are public documents misfits. The sender's email address, phone number, address etc. is not protected information under any statute so the press could rightfully cry foul if there were any redaction done for that sole purpose.
Deal with it.
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Those emails to Governor Palin are public documents misfits. The sender's email address, phone number, address etc. is not protected information under any statute so the press could rightfully cry foul if there were any redaction done for that sole purpose.
Deal with it.
Yeah. I'd imagine there's a bunch of people out there wondering and fretting that their spittle flecked , barely literate rants will become public knowledge.
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an attempt by Palin and the people who were appointed by her and working for her in Alaska to create a narrative of revenge and the victimization of Sarah Palin.
OMG...OMG...OMG... Those e-mails are going to confirm that Palin told the truth!!!!!1!!1!!11!!1111 PANIC!!!! PANIC!!!11!!1 [/DUmmy Mode]
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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OMG...OMG...OMG... Those e-mails are going to confirm that Palin told the truth!!!!!1!!1!!11!!1111 PANIC!!!! PANIC!!!11!!1 [/DUmmy Mode]
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Paul Revenge rides again. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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The article quoted in the OP... http://www.politicususa.com/en/sarah-palin-critics-info
Palin fans will come away from these emails enraged about the alleged media harassment (or perceived whines, if you will) and the rather horrid emails she allegedly received from time to time. If getting nasty emails makes one worthy for Office of the President or the cross, she’d better make room for the rest of us.
With this email dump, Sarah Palin shows that she hasn’t lost her taste for cross hairs.
She put a whole bunch of them on her fellow Alaskans.
Kinda seems like the responsibility for nasty e-mails would belong to the sender...and the exposing of those e-mails would belong to those that demanded them. :-) IF anyone put crosshairs on anyone, it was the left. :lmao:
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CNN finding that Palin was hard-working governor
[Trunicated solely for my reply purposes]
Too bad the video didn't start by showing the CNN Desk and the reporter in Juneau AK wiping their chins to remove all of the drool from maniacally searching through the e-mails for something, anything, to pin on Palin.
Poor bastards. Beforehand, they expected her to present through the e-mails as sort of like a Demon-RAT politician. Vengeful, petty and constantly smearing opposing views. Turns out, they are getting a look at a governor concerned more about her State and its citizens than her future political career.
I wish the MSM would start comparing Palin's e-mails with the way Weiner, Dodd, Ried and Obama's public statements made in efforts to sling mud, make up accusations and generally trying the deflect blame and responsibility of the mistakes and foibles.
But I guess that sort of positive light won't be turned on for Palin. This will go on for a few more days with fewer and fewer reports because they can't and probably won't find the dirt they are looking (Snooping?) for.
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Can any imagine the howls of outrage if the parts they're upset about would have been left out?
(DUmmie mode)
"COVER_UP!!1!1!!111 Show us everything!!!" Little fists clinching, little feet stomping.
"Oops, never mind what we said. HOW DARE YOU release that information!!!! Fist and feet thing again.
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For the smartest people i the history of the universe, the media and the lsft (but I repeat myself) sure do a lot of very, very stupid things.
As my father the used salesman used to say, "People that keep telling you how smart they are, aren't" and "People that think they are very smart are the easiest to fool."
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"Sunlight is the best disinfectant!"
Hasn't that been the mantra of you DUmbasses out there all this time regarding the WikiLeaks and Brad Manning affair? Suck on it, losers.
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-11-11 01:05 AM
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10. For background, who was in charge of reviewing the emails?
The New Yawk Tymes??
The people that Teh Tymes begged to review the e-mails?
Beats me, I have no idea.
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I'm a bit lost. Why were these emails released?
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I'm a bit lost. Why were these emails released?
Liberals demanded it in order to find fault with Mrs. Palin.
You can pretty much understand why.
Technically, they are public record, but, the push for them was not necessarily benign.
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Liberals demanded it in order to find fault with Mrs. Palin.
You can pretty much understand why.
Technically, they are public record, but, the push for them was not necessarily benign.
Remember when the media demanded to see all of Obama's, Biden's, and McCain's emails too?
Oh wait they only wanted to go after Sarah Palin.
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Liberals demanded it in order to find fault with Mrs. Palin.
You can pretty much understand why.
Technically, they are public record, but, the push for them was not necessarily benign.
Thought so, but didn't want to assume.
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I'm a bit lost. Why were these emails released?
The New York Times, and The Washington Post filed a "Freedom of Information Request" with the State of Alaska......and as her emails were part of the public record as long as she was in office.....they were released.
As a part of this, it appears that she received a lot of "hate mail", and once those emails hit the state's server, they, along with the names, email addresses, and phone numbers of the senders (if included in the message) become public record as well.........that's what the DUmmies are upset about........some folks are going to have egg on their faces.
It appears now that this action is coming back to bite them in the ass.......and likely will continue to bite them for the forseeable future. Makes it pretty tough for the MSM to continue to use half-truths, and innuendo to discredt her, when pretty much her entire public life is out there for anyone to review.
doc
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The New York Times, and The Washington Post filed a "Freedom of Information Request" with the State of Alaska......and as her emails were part of the public record as long as she was in office.....they were released.
As a part of this, it appears that she received a lot of "hate mail", and once those emails hit the state's server, they, along with the names, email addresses, and phone numbers of the senders (if included in the message) become public record as well.........that's what the DUmmies are upset about........some folks are going to have egg on their faces.
It appears now that this action is coming back to bite them in the ass.......and likely will continue to bite them for the forseeable future. Makes it pretty tough for the MSM to continue to use half-truths, and innuendo to discredt her, when pretty much her entire public life is out there for anyone to review.
doc
What will happen is the same thing that happened to Nixon, the missing 18 minutes (or in this case 200 pages of emails not released) will be what they focus on.
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What will happen is the same thing that happened to Nixon, the missing 18 minutes (or in this case 200 pages of emails not released) will be what they focus on.
Perhaps, but I doubt it......the FoIA wasn't around with Nixon, and under the provisions of the Act, there has to be an overriding reason for redaction or confidentiality. I suspect that this issue has already been before a judge, and a ruling rendered.
G*d forgive me, but I SO love it when liberals form a "circular firing squad".........
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A couple fine examples of their desperation.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1271305
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Fri Jun-10-11 02:37 PM
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Help us trawl the Sarah Palin emails (Guardian)
Thousands of emails relating to Sarah Palin are being released later today and we would like your help sifting them
See the Sarah Palin emails here and get started ...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jun/10/sarah-...
Same thread.
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Fri Jun-10-11 02:46 PM
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3. ... the Guardian was the first to get Palin emails online, but
the Los Angeles Times and the New York Times were a close second and third ...
Sarah Palin emails - live coverage
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jun/10/sarah-...
Here's theTymes take on the issue.
http://projects.nytimes.com/palin-emails/date/2008-08-01
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Perhaps, but I doubt it......the FoIA wasn't around with Nixon, and under the provisions of the Act, there has to be an overriding reason for redaction or confidentiality. I suspect that this issue has already been before a judge, and a ruling rendered.
G*d forgive me, but I SO love it when liberals form a "circular firing squad".........
doc
You missed my point, I was making the comparison how the focus was on that 18 minutes and how the focus this time will be on the missing emails.
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You missed my point, I was making the comparison how the focus was on that 18 minutes and how the focus this time will be on the missing emails.
I don't think that I've missed your point.......in Nixon's case the tapes required a "Special Prosecutor" and a subpoena to obtain........18 minutes were erased, gone, kaput........an obvious cover-up.
In Palin's case, 200 documents were placed before the Attorney General of Alaska, and he (and likely a state judge) reviewed them and determined that they were beyond the purview of the FoIA. They still exist.....they are there.......they just can't be publically released. No cover-up. Not that MSM won't claim that, but 200 documents out of 24,000 would seem to me, as an average unbiased observer.....to be reasonable.
For all we know, Alaska has many military installations, and those emails possibly have "national security" implications........a damn good reason for withholding their publication.
doc
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I don't think that I've missed your point.......in Nixon's case the tapes required a "Special Prosecutor" and a subpoena to obtain........18 minutes were erased, gone, kaput........an obvious cover-up.
In Palin's case, 200 documents were placed before the Attorney General of Alaska, and he (and likely a state judge) reviewed them and determined that they were beyond the purview of the FoIA. They still exist.....they are there.......they just can't be publically released. No cover-up. Not that MSM won't claim that, but 200 documents out of 24,000 would seem to me, as an average unbiased observer.....to be reasonable.
For all we know, Alaska has many military installations, and those emails possibly have "national security" implications........a damn good reason for withholding their publication.
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My point has nothing to do with the legalities of either case. The point is how the conspiracy theorists will run with what is missing rather than with what is there. In both cases they create what they think went on in the missing data. I bet you anything in the next few days there are going to be all kinds of speculation of what was in the missing emails, and they will run with it as gospel truth like they do with any conspiracy theory that they can come up with to blast republicans.
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My point has nothing to do with the legalities of either case. The point is how the conspiracy theorists will run with what is missing rather than with what is there. In both cases they create what they think went on in the missing data. I bet you anything in the next few days there are going to be all kinds of speculation of what was in the missing emails, and they will run with it as gospel truth like they do with any conspiracy theory that they can come up with to blast republicans.
Ditto. They are going to try and move focus to the emails they cannot access.
Some of the left have been moving off of this though. Such as Andrew Sullivan who has renewed his investigation into tracking down Trig Palin's real mother. ::)
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My point has nothing to do with the legalities of either case. The point is how the conspiracy theorists will run with what is missing rather than with what is there. In both cases they create what they think went on in the missing data. I bet you anything in the next few days there are going to be all kinds of speculation of what was in the missing emails, and they will run with it as gospel truth like they do with any conspiracy theory that they can come up with to blast republicans.
Again perhaps......however, they way this is shaping up, even in CNN reporting, is that it is a witch hunt, that backfired.
There are conspiracy theories about everything public.......hell the DUmmies are still building models of the WTC out of cinder blocks and chicken wire. Doesn't make them close to credible to the average citizen however.
More important, the farther "out there" the media drives this, the more audience of reasonable voters they will lose (and the more Palin will look like a persecuted martyr)........they know that. Even the most left-wing of media personalities is aware that pushing a non-story beyond the bounds of credibility hurts THEM, and not the subject. Example: "Special Keef"
doc