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Title: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: Carl on June 09, 2011, 07:30:45 AM
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kentuck  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-09-11 05:39 AM
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Weiner v. Breitbart -- US Supreme Court
 Edited on Thu Jun-09-11 05:40 AM by kentuck
Griswold v. Connecticut, 1965, protected the individual's right to privacy. Roe v. Wade came later. It is an established law.

Personally, I think Anthony Weiner needs to take this case to the courts. It would be a precedent in the technology era. If you send someone a private photo, pornographic or whatever, does someone else have a right to get that photo and put it all over the Internet and the world? Unless this individual was CC'ed the photo, then he would have no claim to it. He would have no right to disseminate the photo and to humiliate or destroy the life of the other individual.

With that said, I think Weiner's career is possibly over. His political life, and perhaps his personal life, is ruined. It is not relevant whether or not he sent pornographic photos of himself to women or not? The question is whether or not Mr Breitbart had the right to intercept or to attain those photos and put them out for everyone to see? I think the law would say that he does not and that he should be held accountable, both monetarily and criminally.

I think Congressman Weiner should take this all the way to the Supreme Court. It is not about whether he was right or wrong in his actions. It is about his right to privacy.
 

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cali  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-09-11 05:43 AM
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2. He's a public figure.

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kentuck  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-09-11 05:45 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. That doesn't mean we can take a camera into his bedroom.
 He still has a right to a certain degree of privacy.

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cali  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-09-11 05:47 AM
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4. you're right. but no one did that. he sent a photo out on a twitter feed.
 there's a difference. 

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kentuck  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-09-11 05:49 AM
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5. I realize that but..
 I still think there are privacy issues here that need to be addressed by the Court. How did Breitbart get the photos? 

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ejpoeta  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-09-11 05:56 AM
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6. once weiner sent those pictures to another person, they could do whatever they wanted with them.
 they could have posted them all over hell with his name right on them if they wanted to and he couldn't have done anything about it. they could have sold them to the tabloids. if breitbart hacked into his computer to access the pictures, that might be a different matter, but if he and his minions were stalking weiner's twitter followers, then i'd bet they got access that way. if that is the case then weiner has no recourse.

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kentuck  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-09-11 06:03 AM
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7. I think that is the question?
 Is there a right to show a "private" photo to whomever you wish if it was sent to "you"? 
:mental:

No matter how many DUmmies have a moment of semi rationality kentuck insists Weiner should sue.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: ScubaGuy on June 09, 2011, 07:54:18 AM
I think Kentuck is trying to get the "Stupidest Person On The Internet" award.

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melm00se (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Jun-09-11 06:18 AM
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13. upon reading the ToS and Privacy policy
   
Edited on Thu Jun-09-11 06:19 AM by melm00se
I think the following apply:

Tweets, Following, Lists and other Public Information: Our Services are primarily designed to help you share information with the world. Most of the information you provide to us is information you are asking us to make public. This includes not only the messages you Tweet



Basic Terms
You are responsible for your use of the Services, for any Content you post to the Services, and for any consequences thereof. The Content you submit, post, or display will be able to be viewed by other users of the Services


Tip: What you say on Twitter may be viewed all around the world instantly. You are what you Tweet!


http://twitter.com/tos
http://twitter.com/privacy

I think that you give up your expectation of privacy once you publish it to a site like this

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Jun-09-11 06:21 AM
Response to Reply #13
14. But should you?
   
"give up your expectation of privacy"?

They can say anything they want in these agreements.

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Zywiec (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Jun-09-11 07:44 AM
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18. They can say anything they want in these agreements.
   
Correct, and you can either join or opt out.

No one is forcing you to be on Twitter and agree to their terms.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Jun-09-11 07:48 AM
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19. Some folks might question if these agreements are legal?
   
Many, many paragraphs and you check a little box that you agree with the terms. They have no idea of your mental capacity or anything else. I would question their legality also.

Only a complete IDIOT would question if it was illegal.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: Karin on June 09, 2011, 07:55:13 AM
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Is there a right to show a "private" photo to whomever you wish if it was sent to "you"?  

The answer is yes.  So, don't send naked pictures of yourself to people.  Actions have consequences.  Why is that such a difficult life lesson for so many people?  

The Supreme Court.   :lmao:
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: franksolich on June 09, 2011, 08:03:31 AM
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They have no idea of your mental capacity or anything else.

That's a major major problem for my fellow alum Skins, his not knowing for sure which primitives are mentally competent and which aren't. 
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: USA4ME on June 09, 2011, 08:50:28 AM
Just think about how stupid and incompetent Weiner is, and even he's got enough brain cells left to know not to even consider taking it to court claiming privacy.  Now consider that the bluegrass primitive believes there's a case to be made for invasion of privacy making him even more stupid than Weiner.  The bluegrass primitive is extremely stupid, and that's an gross understatement.

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Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: Traveshamockery on June 09, 2011, 09:04:01 AM
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Jun-09-11 07:48 AM
Response to Reply #18
19. Some folks might question if these agreements are legal?
   
Many, many paragraphs and you check a little box that you agree with the terms. They have no idea of your mental capacity or anything else. I would question their legality also.


It sounds like Kentuck may have gotten one of those evil mortgages, too.  You know, the ones where those evil bankers put thousands of pages of papers in front of you and forcibly make you sign your name to a mortgage with an adjustable rate? 

Kentuck is an excellent example of why these people should not be allowed to reproduce.  How dare they be expected to read, agree to, and sign contracts or agree to TOS for websites?

 :hammer:
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: GOBUCKS on June 09, 2011, 09:59:01 AM
The Supreme Court.   :lmao:
Don't laugh too hard. If the muslim gets a second term, we may end up with a Supreme Court with six or seven raving moonbats. Things that sound crazy to us today could become the law of the land. That's why a Republican win is far more important than whose name is on the ballot. Anything else can be corrected by one election, but the Supreme Court can take generations.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: thundley4 on June 09, 2011, 10:02:16 AM
Don't laugh too hard. If the muslim gets a second term, we may end up with a Supreme Court with six or seven raving moonbats. Things that sound crazy to us today could become the law of the land. That's why a Republican win is far more important than whose name is on the ballot. Anything else can be corrected by one election, but the Supreme Court can take generations.

That is why I would hold my nose and vote for a RINO GOP candidate over the DemonRat every time.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: Karin on June 09, 2011, 11:56:13 AM
Oh God, yes.  Understood.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: Celtic Rose on June 09, 2011, 12:11:37 PM
I think Kentuck is trying to get the "Stupidest Person On The Internet" award.

Only a complete IDIOT would question if it was illegal.


A person who was truly intellectually incapable of understanding a basic contract might have a leg to stand on when it comes to the check box signature on an internet contract.  I'm assuming that Representative Weiner is intelligent enough to understand written English, so I don't think he gets a pass on this one. 

Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: BattleHymn on June 09, 2011, 12:16:32 PM
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Jun-09-11 07:48 AM
Response to Reply #18
19. Some folks might question if these agreements are legal?
   
Many, many paragraphs and you check a little box that you agree with the terms. They have no idea of your mental capacity or anything else. I would question their legality also.

Anthony Weiner had to check the little box to find out what was in it.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: franksolich on June 09, 2011, 12:20:29 PM
Well, shit.

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They can say anything they want in these agreements.

Maybe we could try this: the taxpayers of Kentucky agree to send the bluegrass primitive a welfare check every month.

But then they don't do it, and using the bluegrass primitive's logic and reasoning, that's okay.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: Karin on June 09, 2011, 01:35:30 PM
If you row over, be sure to take plenty of stupid repellent.  The other DUmmies try to reason kentuck out of his thinking, but he just keeps coming and coming and coming.  I can't believe he alighted on the position that Weiner should walk into court and whine that he was too stupid to understand a TOS.  That should just catapult his career! 
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: Skul on June 09, 2011, 03:30:05 PM
I'm still a bit concerned that BattleHymn would use "Weiner" and "box" in the same sentence. :fuelfire:
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: JohnnyReb on June 09, 2011, 04:56:47 PM
Y'all want to see my junk?.....oh, nevermind. The thieves have stolen most of it and I sold most of what was left. I guess it's all in China by now....oh! They meant that "junk". Oh, hell no.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: Tucker on June 09, 2011, 04:58:46 PM
I almost logged in to tell kentac that once the weiner gave it away, it was no longer his. the recipient could do with it as they saw fit.

Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: Randy on June 09, 2011, 05:55:50 PM
Weiner's explicit weiner escaped yesterday in a non release release. Go to Twitter and visit @anthonycumia. 
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: Evil_Conservative on June 09, 2011, 08:10:55 PM
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kentuck  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-09-11 06:03 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. I think that is the question?
 Is there a right to show a "private" photo to whomever you wish if it was sent to "you"? 

Do you not listen to any of the advice that is given to the pre-teens and teenagers who "sext"?  They do what Weiner did.  Take provocative pictures and send them to their "boyfriends".  When the boyfriend gets a hold of the pictures, he then sends them to his friends.  His friends send them to their friends.  And it goes on and on and on.

Use your better judgement before sending pictures revealing more than you'd want your grandma to see.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: GOBUCKS on June 09, 2011, 08:48:04 PM
Use your better judgement before sending pictures revealing more than you'd want your grandma to see.
Some women may be confused by that standard.
If so, they can send the photos to me, and I'll let them know if they're too risque.
I do not, under any circumstances, want to see the photo coach has been bragging about.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: Airwolf on June 09, 2011, 08:50:16 PM
I say let the Congressman sue. I'm sure some Judge needs the good laugh the case will bring before him or her.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on June 09, 2011, 10:47:31 PM
You can't fight raging stupid like that, even with a whole planeload of retard-ant.

 :mental:
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: franksolich on June 10, 2011, 03:19:48 AM
Some women may be confused by that standard.

If so, they can send the photos to me, and I'll let them know if they're too risque.

I do not, under any circumstances, want to see the photo coach has been bragging about.

Of course not; that picture's intended to be viewed only by a woman capable of judging the merits of a man; a woman who can view it in a detached scientific clinical manner.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: diesel driver on June 10, 2011, 03:31:10 AM
Of course not; that picture's intended to be viewed only by a woman capable of judging the merits of a man; a woman who can view it in a detached scientific clinical manner.

I agree with the "clinic" part.   

One intense stare at that would require a visit to a clinic.   :lmao:

Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: franksolich on June 10, 2011, 07:27:36 AM
I do not, under any circumstances, want to see the photo coach has been bragging about.

Oh my.

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dummiedestroyer/assess.jpg)

I have no idea the sender of this; it's obviously been sent using a junk e-mail address.

I know, I know, one could probably "track back" an address, but I don't mess with it.....and besides, life is so much more interesting when one is compelled to figure out things, rather than it being known up front.

This surely puts a new unanticipated twist into the script, something not even the nadinostradamus primitive could have foretold.

This could be from my fellow alum Skins, or worse--worse beyond one's capacity to fathom--Fat Che, or it could be a bona fide offer from a member of the DUmpster here.

I'll consult with my spirit guide about it later; not now, as I've got things in real life to do this morning.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: Skul on June 10, 2011, 08:19:31 AM
     :lol:
This could end up being a real hoot. :lmao:
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: franksolich on June 10, 2011, 08:26:16 AM
     :lol:
This could end up being a real hoot. :lmao:

Yeah, it could be; funny how life can evolve into a comedy.

But actually this is serious scientific inquiry, for the purposes anthropologizing the primitives.

"Would a primitive hit on franksolich?"

Serious business here.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: WinOne4TheGipper on June 10, 2011, 08:34:21 AM
That's a major major problem for my fellow alum Skins, his not knowing for sure which primitives are mentally competent and which aren't. 

If you're posting to a site like DU, I think it's safe to assume some things about your mental competence.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: GOBUCKS on June 10, 2011, 09:28:57 AM

I have no idea the sender of this; it's obviously been sent using a junk e-mail address.

You don't need a spirit guide. When "junk e-mail" enters into the equation, a big red light should begin to blink, blink, blink, blink.
Were it not for deafness, the alarm would include a wailing siren and a blaring klaxon horn.

If it were possible to track your mystery e-mail, you'd probably discover it originated in Connecticut.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: Toastedturningtidelegs on June 10, 2011, 09:47:44 AM
That's a major major problem for my fellow alum Skins, his not knowing for sure which primitives are mentally competent and which aren't. 
Well when 90% of your membership is morally bankrupt to begin with i imagine it's damn near impossible to tell the difference.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: franksolich on June 10, 2011, 09:48:20 AM
If it were possible to track your mystery e-mail, you'd probably discover it originated in Connecticut.

Well, yeah, I'm treating this with the utmost discretion and distance; I haven't send the photograph to anyone yet.  delilah has seen it, but that was four years ago, and on Scamdy; if any picture of it remains with her yet, it's in her memory, not on her computer.

Anyway, for those who are squeamish about this, never fear.  It's a clean story, one that one can tell the children, when it's all said-and-done.

And the script ends with the primitives making asses of themselves.

As usual.

But getting to the end of the script is a problem; as my spirit guide TheHollywoodNeoCon said, it's too long (but also that it's a great script).  I hope to be able to incorporate parts of it into "Mrs. Alfred Packer does the 4th of July," coming out Monday morning, July 4. 

The primitives will be up here on the roof of Nebraska stalking franksolich (it's a parody, whatshisname, comprendere, stupid; it's a parody of the paranoia of the primitives) over the long holiday weekend, so why not?
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: franksolich on June 10, 2011, 09:52:21 AM
Well when 90% of your membership is morally bankrupt to begin with i imagine it's damn near impossible to tell the difference.

Sure, but I think in cases such as the subway cat or Pedro Picasso, it's obvious.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: GOBUCKS on June 10, 2011, 09:57:31 AM
So, I'm wondering, coach. Given the notoriety of this indiscreet photo, do you have any plans to resign?
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: Toastedturningtidelegs on June 10, 2011, 10:01:11 AM
Sure, but I think in cases such as the subway cat or Pedro Picasso, it's obvious.
UGP Would be B.F Skinners dream patient...Pedro is just an angry narcissistic asshole,as well as "ole whatshisname"  :-)
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: franksolich on June 10, 2011, 10:05:55 AM
So, I'm wondering, coach. Given the notoriety of this indiscreet photo, do you have any plans to resign?

Say what?

Remember, I was the innocent in all this--unlike Weiner, who apparently can't afford to quit his day job (according to Drudge)--it being taken without my consent and then posted on the internet without my consent.

Well, what's done is done--and this was done four years ago, remember--and one can't get it undone.

All one can do is laugh about it, which is what franksolich is doing.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: Karin on June 10, 2011, 10:09:59 AM
Yeah, and Delilah did say you had a nice ass, so no harm done. 
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: franksolich on June 10, 2011, 10:11:23 AM
Yeah, and Delilah did say you had a nice ass, so no harm done. 

But that didn't answer the scientific inquiry, madam.

franksolich already knows how decent and civilized people react to him.

The question however still remains: "Would a primitive hit on franksolich?"
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: GOBUCKS on June 10, 2011, 10:17:13 AM
Yeah, and Delilah did say you had a nice ass, so no harm done.
I think his account was probably hacked.
If this photo goes viral, Pitt will forget about Kevin Spacey, Ben Burch will reappear at the DUmp, Backwoods Bob will move into town, and all the other queer DUmmies tombstoned during the most recent Night Of The Long Knives will start roaming the Sandhills.

If that happens, coach's neighbors, few and far between as they may be, could find themselves living in the main gay mecca between Key West and San Francisco.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: franksolich on June 10, 2011, 10:22:08 AM
I think his account was probably hacked.
If this photo goes viral, Pitt will forget about Kevin Spacey, Ben Burch will reappear at the DUmp, Backwoods Bob will move into town, and all the other queer DUmmies tombstoned during the most recent Night Of The Long Knives will start roaming the Sandhills.

If that happens, coach's neighbors, few and far between as they may be, could find themselves living in the main gay mecca between Key West and San Francisco.

I re-examined the gmail.

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I don't want to post my comments about it on CC.

To me, that suggests this is someone from here.

If it is in fact from someone here, I don't care who it is, and I'm not going to bother with the time and trouble of finding out who it is; all things come out eventually, on their own.

I dunno, but I have to head out for a couple of hours now.

However, if it is in fact someone from here, remember: franksolich's clarebootheluce correspondence is always posted here, MINUS any possible identification of the sender.  Just as the above had been done.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: GCBill on June 12, 2011, 04:18:30 AM
That's a major major problem for my fellow alum Skins, his not knowing for sure which primitives are mentally competent and which aren't. 

It's simple. If they have made it over 1000 posts without getting a pizza, they are mentally incompetent.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: Tucker on June 12, 2011, 04:46:31 AM
It's simple. If they have made it over 1000 posts without getting a pizza, they are mentally incompetent.

My mole has 5 times that amount.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: GCBill on June 12, 2011, 10:34:54 AM
My mole has 5 times that amount.

Wow! in 3 tries, the best I could do was 168. Second one was burned in the first post.

I should have built them up in the Lounge and Cooking and Baking. Playing in GD, so many people say SO MANY stupid things, it's hard to get your message out without a pizza.
Title: Re: kentuck setting new records for stupidity.
Post by: Tucker on June 12, 2011, 04:04:00 PM
Wow! in 3 tries, the best I could do was 168. Second one was burned in the first post.

I should have built them up in the Lounge and Cooking and Baking. Playing in GD, so many people say SO MANY stupid things, it's hard to get your message out without a pizza.

99% is in GD or GDP