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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-29-11 10:29 AM
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Sorry Paul Ryan, My Mom Will Live Updated at 10:29 AM
SAT MAY 28, 2011 AT 11:37 PM PDT
Sorry Paul Ryan, My Mom Will Live
byStevenJoseph
Last week, I got a call from my brother. He told me that our mother had breast cancer. On Thursday, two days ago, our mother was operated on. They removed the breast cancer and two thirds of the lymph nodes in her right arm. That meant the cancer may have spread. That basically means chemotherapy for my mom, and that really sucks.
However, the surgery and the chemo will give my mom a fighting chance. Furthermore, it is a chance she would never have if there weren't programs like Medicaid and Medicare. You see, without those programs, our family could never pay for all the care she is going to need. With those programs, my mom will probably live years, and, I hope, maybe many years longer. Odds are without these programs, my mother would be gone in a few years.
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I can rejoice that Medicare is still here and so is my mom. Mom, I hope you live many more days and then go to heaven as you believe. I love you Mom.
As for Paul Ryan, well you can rot in hell. In fact, assuming there is a God, I think you probably will.
MORE:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/05/29/980276/-Sorry-...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1192987
Paul Ryan's plan does not touch anyone currently on medicare.
I know facts are as foreign to you goons as soap and deodorant.
Under the democrats plan of spending until we collapse, medicare along with every thing the govt funds will be gone.
Paul Ryan is the only one so far with a plan that will save medicare, you idiots are too short sighted to see this.
If Ryan had a D next to his name you morons would be praising his brilliance.
:banghead:
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Democrats certainly are fond of fear as a political tool, aren't they ?
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ObamaCoup cuts hundreds of billions from MediCare. Ryan just gives the money to people in the form of a voucher, not cuts.
How come kpete doesn't take Obama to task?
Oh, right, Obama is half non-white.
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This crap is really starting to piss me off :argh:
kpete you fool, now WTF are you saying?
Robert Reich on Socialized Medicine:
[youtube=425,350]IT7Y0TOBuG4[/youtube]
UK's NICE rejects Roche's Avastin in breast cancer
http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/07/08/roche-avastin-idUSLDE66710920100708
LONDON, July 9 (Reuters) - Roche's (ROG.VX) blockbuster cancer drug Avastin has been spurned once again by Britain's health cost watchdog NICE, this time as a treatment for breast cancer.
Ezekiel Emanuel quotes:
Journal of the American Medical Association, June 18, 2008
"Doctors take the Hippocratic Oath too seriously, as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless of the cost or effects on others"
Health Affairs Feb. 27, 2008
"Vague promises of savings from cutting waste, enhancing prevention and wellness, installing electronic medical records and improving quality are merely 'lipstick' cost control, more for show and public relations than for true change,"
What Are the Potential Cost Savings from Legalizing Physician-Assisted Suicide? New England Journal of Medicine, July 1998
"There is a widespread perception that the United States spends an excessive amount on high-technology health care for dying patients. Many commentators note that 27 to 30 percent of the Medicare budget is spent on the 5 percent of Medicare patients who die each year. They also note that the expenditures increase exponentially as death approaches, so that the last month of life accounts for 30 to 40 percent of the medical care expenditures in the last year of life. To many, savings from reduced use of expensive technological interventions at the end of life are both necessary and desirable."
"Many have linked the effort to reduce the high cost of death with the legalization of physician-assisted suicide. One commentator observed: "Managed care and managed death [through physician-assisted suicide] are less expensive than fee-for-service care and extended survival. Less expensive is better." Some of the amicus curiae briefs submitted to the Supreme Court expressed the same logic: "Decreasing availability and increasing expense in health care and the uncertain impact of managed care may intensify pressure to choose physician-assisted suicide" and "the cost effectiveness of hastened death is as undeniable as gravity. The earlier a patient dies, the less costly is his or her care."
"Although the cost savings to the United States and most managed-care plans are likely to be small, it is important to recognize that the savings to specific terminally ill patients and their families could be substantial. For many patients and their families, especially but not exclusively those without health insurance, the costs of terminal care may result in large out-of-pocket expenses. Nevertheless, as compared with the average American, the terminally ill are less likely to be uninsured, since more than two thirds of decedents are Medicare beneficiaries over 65 years of age. The poorest dying patients are likely to be Medicaid beneficiaries. Extrapolating from the Medicare data, one can calculate that a typical uninsured patient, by dying one month earlier by means of physician-assisted suicide, might save his or her family $10,000 in health care costs, having already spent as much as $20,000 in that year."
"Drawing on data from the Netherlands on the use of euthanasia and physician-assisted suicide and on available U.S. data on costs at the end of life, this analysis explores the degree to which the legalization of physician-assisted suicide might reduce health care costs. The most reasonable estimate is a savings of $627 million, less than 0.07 percent of total health care expenditures."
Where Civic Republicanism and Deliberative Democracy Meet, Hastings Center Report, Nov.-Dec.1996
"This civic republican or deliberative democratic conception of the good provides both procedural and substantive insights for developing a just allocation of health care resources. Procedurally, it suggests the need for public forums to deliberate about which health services should be considered basic and should be socially guaranteed. Substantively, it suggests services that promote the continuation of the polity-those that ensure healthy future generations, ensure development of practical reasoning skills, and ensure full and active participation by citizens in public deliberations-are to be socially guaranteed as basic. Conversely, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia."
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1192987
Paul Ryan's plan does not touch anyone currently on medicare.
I know facts are as foreign to you goons as soap and deodorant.
Under the democrats plan of spending until we collapse, medicare along with every thing the govt funds will be gone.
Paul Ryan is the only one so far with a plan that will save medicare, you idiots are too short sighted to see this.
If Ryan had a D next to his name you morons would be praising his brilliance.
If Paul Ryan were a democrat, the union thugs, entitlement drones, sex perverts, and professional minorities would have killed him in the primary.