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Title: Entitlement' is just a fancy word for dependency
Post by: Tucker on May 28, 2011, 02:23:59 PM
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110528/COLUMNIST0150/305280010/Thomas-Sowell-Entitlement-just-fancy-word-dependency?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|s

Not AP article.

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Thomas Sowell

Thomas Sowell: 'Entitlement' is just a fancy word for dependency

Those who regard government “entitlement” programs as sacrosanct, and regard those who want to cut them back as calloused or cruel, picture a world very different from the world of reality.

To listen to some of the defenders of entitlement programs, which are at the heart of the present financial crisis, you might think that anything the government fails to provide is something that people will be deprived of..../


/.....The goal is not to keep the poor from starving but to create dependency, because dependency translates into votes for politicians who play Santa Claus.

Great read.
Title: Re: Entitlement' is just a fancy word for dependency
Post by: rich_t on May 28, 2011, 02:59:56 PM
Ok.

Define entitlement.

Let's take SS or Medicare.  I have been paying into these systems since I was 16.  I wasn't given a choice to pay into them.  It is mandatory.

Is it wrong for me to feel entitled to get some of my money back out of those programs?  They are after all, a type of insurance programs (albeit ones that I never had a choice to NOT purchase)

I pay life insurance premiums.

I pay auto insurance premiums.

I pay home owners insurance premiums.

Is it wrong for me to expect that these companies pay out in accordance with the contract that I have signed in the event that I need to file a claim?

On the other hand, things mentioned in the article...  School lunches, subsidized house, EIC (not mentioned) etc.  are indeed open for cutting to the core IMO.

Excellent article.

Title: Re: Entitlement' is just a fancy word for dependency
Post by: CG6468 on May 28, 2011, 03:16:24 PM
I don't think Social Security and Medicare should be lumped in with "entitlements." Like Rich said, almost all of us have involuntarily paid into those systems for our entire working lives. Some retirement packages are TIED to Social Security.
Title: Re: Entitlement' is just a fancy word for dependency
Post by: Tucker on May 28, 2011, 03:27:12 PM
What burns me up more than anything else is that the democrat party uses entitlements like a drug. Once the poor are reduced to a helpless human, devoid of any hope, the democrat party says if you don't vote for my party forever, the mean ole nasty Republican Party will take it all away.

Most democrats aren't smart enough to see through this.
Title: Re: Entitlement' is just a fancy word for dependency
Post by: docstew on May 28, 2011, 03:49:59 PM
I agree with most of your sentiments about "entitlements", but a system very similar to the EIC was proposed by none other than Milton Friedman, who proposed it as a replacement for the current Welfare system.