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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: FiddyBeowulf on May 18, 2011, 02:10:04 PM
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed May-18-11 11:30 AM
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Ed Schultz shows his RW roots with slurs against poverty
Ed Schultz has never been kind toward poor people, but then, most "progressives" ignore poverty altogether so I didn't see him as that much different.
In an article last month, Salon brought some of Schultz's anti-poverty stances to light:
Last September, for example, Schultz responded to a wave of gang violence in Chicago by calling on Obama to deploy the military in the city:
Mr. President, I got a great idea as to where you can send those troops that you just brought home from Iraq. How about Chicago, Illinois and a bunch of other big cities in this country? It's time we look out for our own backyard, security is an issue.
The right-wing version of Schultz opposed abortion in all circumstances, mocked homeless people by sneering, "How about getting a job?" and proclaimed that "I'd like to see the president get all the illegals out of the country, so we can start all over again."
But in his books, Schultz describes a first date with his future wife, Wendy -- whom he met for lunch at a homeless shelter -- as the event that sparked his reconsideration of politics. In his 2010 book, "Killer Politics," Schultz claims he didn't even know there were homeless people in Fargo:
Wendy asked me to meet her at a homeless shelter where she volunteered. It hadn't really dawned on me that homelessness could exist in Fargo. In my mind, a homeless person was a slacker, someone who just wasn't trying hard enough, and said these self-righteous things on the air. I didn't know then that one in four homeless people is a Vietnam veteran.
I will never forget as Katrina was unfolding, Schultz loudly questioned the poor people who stayed there, characterizing them as too stupid to know enough to get out of the rain. *He* would have left, so why didn't those who had no transportation, no money, and nowhere to go *NOT* leave?
That shows now that not only was this not a new (ignorant) stance for Schultz, but that he hadn't changed all that much, at least where poverty is concerned. His ignoring of poverty today is now all the more clear -- at least when it comes to poverty, Schultz is a RWer.
THIS is why it is so important for other "progressive" media to be talking about poverty and homelessness. Many people who listen to Schultz will take on his attitude, and when there is *no counter voice*, the ignorace gains favor.
Please write LTTEs about the issue of homelessness, and please, as many have asked before, write to your favorite progressive spokespeople and push for them to cover this issue.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1127008 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1127008)
DontTreadOnMe (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed May-18-11 11:41 AM
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2. "but then, most "progressives" ignore poverty altogether"
I call bullshit.
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed May-18-11 11:43 AM
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3. personal attack rather than any rebuttal.
:crazy:
Drop the epithets and post links.
Some good left on left snark is going to be going on.
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The right-wing version of Schultz opposed abortion in all circumstances, mocked homeless people by sneering, "How about getting a job?"
:clap:
How about getting out of the backseat of the Buick & find a freaking job, Bobo?
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed May-18-11 11:43 AM
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3. personal attack rather than any rebuttal.
:crazy:
Drop the epithets and post links.
Yeah, make that beyotch prove a negative, dammit!
:rotf:
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Shireling (194 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed May-18-11 01:57 PM
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20. Recommend
I recommended this thread, but for some reason it is not registering as such.
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed May-18-11 02:10 PM
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24. That's because the UNrec Brigade is out in force.
They don't like anything by me about poverty and homelessness, and that is their way of showing it.
:(
bobo is not getting the love. Maybe trying not to one-up everyone in the "moral authority" department on those two issues may help.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Wed May-18-11 02:10 PM
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24. That's because the UNrec Brigade is out in force.
They don't like anything by me about poverty and homelessness, and that is their way of showing it.
Why? Because it makes 0bama look bad. You don't discuss the homeless when a Democrat is in office, only when an evil uncaring Republican is. :rulez:
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DontTreadOnMe (1000+ posts) Wed May-18-11 11:41 AM
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2. "but then, most "progressives" ignore poverty altogether"
I call bullshit.
I have to agree with DUmmy DontTreadOnMe on this one.
"Progressives" don't ignore poverty at all.
They caused most of it.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed May-18-11 02:37 PM
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30. Ed Schultz is important
He has a unique quality to grab the gun totin' anti gov crowd and change them. He's kinda crude, but that's what makes him palatable to pukes.
I assume "pukes" means Republicans, that being the case I do not find him palatable. I do not know of anyone (of those few who know who he is) that find him palatable. The words I hear mentioned in the same breath as his name are: idiot, blowhard, crazy, and Keith-lite.
salinen, you are defending someone who bobo is against. You have been put on "the list"
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That does it. Cage match to the death.
Bobo the Hobo versus NadinKnowItThe****All.
Winner will be beaten with the bloody stumps of the loser.
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About New Orleans DUmmies, did you not watch all the TV News, did you not look at the scenes of devastation they showed, did none of it register on neither one of your brain cells? I saw piles of nice SUV's in the "poor sections" of New Orleans. Almost every house had two (that's 2, you know 1+1=2 and no potatoes) cars and/or SUV's around them. Don't tell me they couldn't get out.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed May-18-11 03:44 PM
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31. Very true, so it was another example of a bit of hypocrisy.
I'm trying to stay away from "the pot calling the kettle black" because it is racist, IMO, and I don't have another cliche' to put in that place. ^_^
The wall of silence, especially around homelessness, is HUGE, and I haven't found the way to break through it.
Suggestions welcome...
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Gandhi
I don't even know how to get through the first step.... :(
That has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
I guess calling my neighbors black SUV as black is racist! What an asshole.
Is black a word that we're not supposed to use?
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I assume "pukes" means Republicans, that being the case I do not find him palatable. I do not know of anyone (of those few who know who he is) that find him palatable.
That's a key point. The audience actually listening to one of those PMSNBC moonbat shows is about the same as the attendance at a decent college football game. That's big in terms if ticket sales, but microscopic in terms of national politics. What are the odds that the person you're talking to attended last year's Texas-Oklahoma game? That's how likely it is for him to have an opinion on a PMSNBC moonbat like Schultz. (And nearly every person at that game was a decent, civilized American, so if he ever did heard Schultz, he'd be sickened.)
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed May-18-11 03:44 PM
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31. Very true, so it was another example of a bit of hypocrisy.
I'm trying to stay away from "the pot calling the kettle black" because it is racist, IMO, and I don't have another cliche' to put in that place. ^_^
The wall of silence, especially around homelessness, is HUGE, and I haven't found the way to break through it.
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Elect a Republican. Your progressive buddies will be trotting the parade of misery out. The problem is, right now, progressives own the white house and the senate so you will remain invisible until that changes. Remember when Dinkins made all your NYC homeless pals citiless by shipping them out in advance of some sort of convention? That is progressive compassion for you.
Me, on the other hand, I am anti-poverty. I believe in removing the government obstacles that keep you in that Buick with $5/gallon gasoline and $40 data plans.
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I'm trying to stay away from "the pot calling the kettle black" because it is racist
That has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
I guess calling my neighbors black SUV as black is racist! What an asshole.
Is black a word that we're not supposed to use?
That should be, "I'm trying to stat away from 'the pot calling the kettle African-American'." :-)