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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: BlueStateSaint on May 16, 2011, 12:08:00 PM
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It would have been interesting.
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Trump not running for president
By Domenico Montanaro, Political Reporter, NBC News
Real estate mogul Donald Trump will not be a candidate for president in 2012.
Here's the full statement below. More to come.
For Immediate Release:
New York, New York: May 16, 2011
After considerable deliberation and reflection, I have decided not to pursue the office of the Presidency. This decision does not come easily or without regret; especially when my potential candidacy continues to be validated by ranking at the top of the Republican contenders in polls across the country. I maintain the strong conviction that if I were to run, I would be able to win the primary and ultimately, the general election. I have spent the past several months unofficially campaigning and recognize that running for public office cannot be done half heartedly. Ultimately, however, business is my greatest passion and I am not ready to leave the private sector.
I want to personally thank the millions of Americans who have joined the various Trump grassroots movements and written me letters and e-mails encouraging me to run. My gratitude for your faith and trust in me could never be expressed properly in words. So, I make you this promise: that I will continue to voice my opinions loudly and help to shape our politician's thoughts. My ability to bring important economic and foreign policy issues to the forefront of the national dialogue is perhaps my greatest asset and one of the most valuable services I can provide to this country.
I will continue to push our President and the country's policy makers to address the dire challenges arising from our unsustainable debt structure and increasing lack of global competitiveness. Issues, including getting tough on China and other countries that are methodically and systematically taking advantage of the United States, were seldom mentioned before I brought them to the forefront of the country's conversation. They are now being debated vigorously. I will also continue to push for job creation, an initiative that should be this country's top priority and something that I know a lot about. I will not shy away from expressing the opinions that so many of you share yet don't have a medium through which to articulate.
There's more:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/05/16/6653781-trump-not-running-for-president?GT1=43001
What I want to know is this: Who will he endorse? He definitely made waves with his statements about China and OPEC.
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Another one gone. The field shrinks!
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Another one gone. The field shrinks!
:yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :popcorn:
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A[/youtube]
One self-serving attention whore down, a few more to go.
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He had to make a decision by today, to NBC, as to whether or not to continue his Apprentice show.
There's nothing to stop him from getting back in later, once next fall's Apprentice is over with, unless NBC waits until spring 2012 to put it on the air, then it would probably be too late.
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He had to make a decision by today, to NBC, as to whether or not to continue his Apprentice show.
There's nothing to stop him from getting back in later, once next fall's Apprentice is over with, unless NBC waits until spring 2012 to put it on the air, then it would probably be too late.
Apparently, NBC threatened to recast the show--probably with Joan Rivers. :o
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A[/youtube]
One self-serving attention whore down, a few more to go.
Bingo. It's a good day so far.
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Clown shoes.
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Good. Didn't want him anyway.
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He had to make a decision by today, to NBC, as to whether or not to continue his Apprentice show.
There's nothing to stop him from getting back in later, once next fall's Apprentice is over with, unless NBC waits until spring 2012 to put it on the air, then it would probably be too late.
He can't pull a Ross Perot, get in, get out, and then get back in. He'll be a laughing stock.
He's out.
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He can't pull a Ross Perot, get in, get out, and then get back in. He'll be a laughing stock.
He's out.
He "will" be? He had a skit on WWE Rasslin' for chrissakes.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ihyLjkvdIE[/youtube]
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He "will" be? He had a skit on WWE Rasslin' for chrissakes.
I liked him. I like a guy who says what he thinks without 500 political handlers testing it with focus groups first.
But its a moot point: He's out.
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Thank goodness. I never trusted him. Glad he's gone. Now to get rid of the other RINOS
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Glad he's gone.
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Well, I know nobody is gonna listen to me but I'm gonna say it anyway:
Every four years we elect politicians, then we piss and cry for four years vowing to vote the bums out, then four years later we vote for another politician. Then when a new guy comes in, a Trump or a Perot, who is NOT a politician and who knows business, what do we do? Trash him, throw him under the bus, then elect another politician so that we can bitch about our new politician for ANOTHER four years.
You know what's gonna happen? We're gonna get some hack who may or may not beat Obama, then you're all gonna complain for yet another four years about whoever gets elected. And I'll be right here with a big fat "I told you so" when you do.
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Trump cannot beat Obama. Besides, he dropped out. He markets bullshit. Businessman? What does he produce? To me he's a glorified investor with a personality. Almost his entire industry is based on popularity and, sorry, you can't run a country based on popularity. How's it working for Obama? We need someone who makes the RIGHT decisions, decisions that, not only affect his own pocketbook, but thousands of people subordinate to him. We need someone that has taken care of employees. That's why I say, when it comes to business? Herman Cain > Donald Trump. I don't give a rat's ass about how much money Trump has. He's probably lost just as much and wrote off millions in bankruptcy as well.
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Trump cannot beat Obama.....
You see, I don't neccessarily believe that. It is so damn REFRESHING to hear a man talk like a normal human being instead spewing out the correct political crapola, that it may well be that people would lap it up. I know I did. I want my guy to be freeking NORMAL, and politicians are not normal. I mean, come on man, keep it real: Do you hang out with anybody that talks like politicians do? They're like from freekin' Mars or something. Oh sure, some are nice guys, like a Ronald Reagan, but even the good guys never actually say what they think.
To be fair, I DO give points to Herman Cain for that: He probably speaks like the most normal person running
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You see, I don't neccessarily believe that. It is so damn REFRESHING to hear a man talk like a normal human being instead spewing out the correct political crapola, that it may well be that people would lap it up. I know I did. I want my guy to be freeking NORMAL, and politicians are not normal. I mean, come on man, keep it real: Do you hang out with anybody that talks like politicians do? They're like from freekin' Mars or something. Oh sure, some are nice guys, like a Ronald Reagan, but even the good guys never actually say what they think.
To be fair, I DO give points to Herman Cain for that: He probably speaks like the most normal person running
In Cain's case, it's what you're NOT hearing that's important.
You're not hearing bullshit. You're hearing straight talk the likes of which Juan McLame never could appreciate, understand, or practice. You're hearing honesty and simple, unrefined responses to questions that are designed to trip up the politician who's answering them.
You're not hearing verbosity the kind that Biden can only practice.
You're not hearing grandiosity the kind that Romney says.
Cain is a breath of fresh air in a room full of farts.
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Cain is a breath of fresh air in a room full of farts.
....which is probably why HE won't get nominated either.
We just can't help oursleves: We always want fresh blood but we almost always nominate the hack.
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....which is probably why HE won't get nominated either.
We just can't help oursleves: We always want fresh blood but we almost always nominate the hack.
What's with the f'n negativity? The Tea Party is running shit now. People are PISSED. Probably would have happened just as you describe had it been a "regular" Dem in office and not some idiot Marxist hellbent on destroying this country, befriending our enemies, alienating our allies, and driving our economy off into a ravine.
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He did all this just for ratings.
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CatholicCrusader,
I cannot help but think back to this post when I think of you, on another website that I've been following for a few years:
http://hillbuzz.org/2008/10/14/an-eeyore-free-zone/
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The United States is already at war with China.
Think about this. The Soviet Union designed weapons to destroy the US.
But it never took millions of American jobs. It couldn't. It never launched massive cyber-attacks
against our computer networks.
China is designing and putting in place weapons to destroy the US.
It has put in place missiles to sink the aircraft carriers in the US Seventh Fleet,
(the same carriers that are protecting Chinese shipping to the US).
By its currency manipulation, it has left large swaths of America destitute and jobless.
Our kids go into debt for their education. They graduate. And they can't get jobs.
Their future is gone.
http://irps.ucsd.edu/assets/001/501361.pdf
Thanks to the above report, it's now documented that the net effect of trade with China has been disastrous for the US economy.
And if the present economic policies continue - America will never recover - without a large war.
But even IF trade with China was beneficial - should the United States be trading with its sworn enemy?
That used to be considered treason.
Trump was the one candidate who got it. And he knew how to address the problem.
He may have had many flaws. But at least he could spot the obvious.
I pray another Republican will adopt his position on China. But I doubt it will happen.
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What's with the f'n negativity? The Tea Party is running shit now.......
As I said before, if you're right I'll be the first to cheer.
But my negativity comes from the fact that we are over a year away from the election and Republicans are already eating their own young.
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I never could get past all that money he gave to people we despise (democrat politicians). And anybody who says "Nancy Pelosi is the greatest!" has lost me.
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My feeling with Trump was he was just trying to keep putting his name out there. He certainly had no intention to run for president one bit, but he is a sucessful businessman for a reason.
Look at how him and Rosie went off a few years ago. The only reason he went back at Rosie O'Donnall for her attacking his beauty pagent was that he saw a oppertunity to put his name out there. Call it free advertising I suppose.
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My feeling with Trump was he was just trying to keep putting his name out there. He certainly had no intention to run for president one bit, but he is a sucessful businessman for a reason.
Look at how him and Rosie went off a few years ago. The only reason he went back at Rosie O'Donnall for her attacking his beauty pagent was that he saw a oppertunity to put his name out there. Call it free advertising I suppose.
Yup. One of the first rules of the PR game -- there ain't no such thing as bad publicity. The Donald rode that one all the way to the bank.
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As I said before, if you're right I'll be the first to cheer.
But my negativity comes from the fact that we are over a year away from the election and Republicans are already eating their own young.
Actually, we aren't eating our own YOUNG. We're weeding out the OLD; the ones who'd get the party nod "Because it's their turn". :whatever:
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My feeling with Trump was he was just trying to keep putting his name out there. He certainly had no intention to run for president one bit, but he is a sucessful businessman for a reason.
Look at how him and Rosie went off a few years ago. The only reason he went back at Rosie O'Donnall for her attacking his beauty pagent was that he saw a oppertunity to put his name out there. Call it free advertising I suppose.
Yup. One of the first rules of the PR game -- there ain't no such thing as bad publicity. The Donald rode that one all the way to the bank.
Which makes one think: If he can manipulate stuff so well, what could he do with OPEC and the ChiComs he he WAS president? I would just love a president who played our enemies like fools, left them with egg on their faces, and walked home with the winnings.
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Which makes one think: If he can manipulate stuff so well, what could he do with OPEC and the ChiComs he he WAS president? I would just love a president who played our enemies like fools, left them with egg on their faces, and walked home with the winnings.
Speculating is sometimes fun, but it ain't THAT fun.
The Donald would never, ever get to the point where he'd be "playing our enemies like fools."
Among other things, our president is the Chief Diplomat. The Donald practices only diplomacy that favors himself. I don't even believe he's capable of thinking of anyone or anything BESIDES himself.
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The Donald would never, ever get to the point where he'd be "playing our enemies like fools."
I'm not so sure about that.
You think some rice-eating ChiCom or some Middle East rag-heads are as savvy negotiators as some of the players Trump has negotiated with over the decades?
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You think some rice-eating ChiCom or some Middle East rag-heads are as savvy negotiators as some of the players Trump has negotiated with over the decades?
Yep, that's how the left thinks we all talk. With your previous "homo" statement, the only thing left is for you to call Obama or Cain is a monkey. :whatever:
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Does that mean my conservative credentials are now confirmed ?
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Does that mean my conservative credentials are now confirmed ?
Not even close.
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Does that mean my conservative credentials are now confirmed ?
Not even close.
Well then, I guess its a good thing that I don't need faceless internet pretend-conservatives to confirm that which I already know to be true, huh.
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I'm not so sure about that.
You think some rice-eating ChiCom or some Middle East rag-heads are as savvy negotiators as some of the players Trump has negotiated with over the decades?
Yep.
Remember Sun Tzu? He said this:
"He who exercises no forethought but makes light of his opponents is sure to be captured by them."
My point is, The Donald will never get to that position. Ever. He will simply not have the opportunity, even if he had chosen to run. He is unelectable, imho. Too much baggage, too many instances of me, me, me.
So it's pointless to even speculate, as fun as that is.
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Speculating is sometimes fun, but it ain't THAT fun.
The Donald would never, ever get to the point where he'd be "playing our enemies like fools."
Among other things, our president is the Chief Diplomat. The Donald practices only diplomacy that favors himself. I don't even believe he's capable of thinking of anyone or anything BESIDES himself.
Trump understands the Chinese Government better than Dumb Ass Tanker ever will.
Unfortunately, he understands it better than all of our political leaders too.
China is already scared. Don't believe me?
Ask Hillary. Even she can spot it.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/74904/china-running-scared-of-democracy-clinton
She's wrong about the reason though. It's not scared of Democracy. It's scared because
the government consists of a committee of crackpot paranoids. They are scared of their
own people (who don't really want Democracy) and they are scared of inflation and they
are scared of the US, Tibetans, Xinjiang Movement, Nobel Prizes, of artists & of old blind lawyers.
You name it - the PRC Government is probably scared of it. That's is its nature. It's paranoid.
But it knows enough about its own people that it is not so scared of Democracy. It is afraid
of what precedes it - revolt.
Maybe the rest of what DAT wrote is true. But Trump was spot-on as far as the Chinese government goes.
You do not negotiate with them. That's stupid. It's been stupid for thousands of years.
You might negotiate with France, Japan, Germany. But you just don't negotiate with Chinese.
It's a waste of your time and worse, it's not a waste of their time.
You do what you are going to do and you listen to them whine after you do it.
That is how you negotiate with China.
China is a military problem. Diplomats can't solve it.
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I've heard rumblings within the political rumor mill that even though Donald Trump has dropped out of contention, his hair is still raising money and may yet enter the race. While I cannot confirm these rumors, one needs to ask: can the hair beat the suit in 2012?
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Trump understands the Chinese Government better than Dumb Ass Tanker ever will.
You're an idiot. I don't waste my time on idiots. Pearls before swine and all that.
(Edited to be more tactful than my first response).
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Well then, I guess its a good thing that I don't need faceless internet pretend-conservatives to confirm that which I already know to be true, huh.
Jeez, what a thin-skinned little bitch...
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I've heard rumblings within the political rumor mill that even though Donald Trump has dropped out of contention, his hair is still raising money and may yet enter the race. While I cannot confirm these rumors, one needs to ask: can the hair beat the suit in 2012?
Despite his tawdry personal morals and lack of principles, I'd willingly vote for Trump for president if he were the Republican nominee (fat chance, but if.....).
Anybody, but anybody, is better than the current occupant of the White House.
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Despite his tawdry personal morals and lack of principles, I'd willingly vote for Trump for president if he were the Republican nominee (fat chance, but if.....).
Anybody, but anybody, is better than the current occupant of the White House.
Well, if that happened, there's a fairly good chance he'd end up being impeached within two years, so it's not like we'd have to deal with a full four years. It would make the VP choice pretty important, of course. I'm afraid he strikes me as a having the hubris of Woodrow Wilson without the class to make it go down over the long haul. While he would be very popular with the fiscal conservatives, he strikes me as a guy who would be fine with big-government solutions to social issues, but with no visible commitment to individual liberty outside the financial realm, so there could be some very ugly results for anyone opposed to him on those issues including social conservatives and libertarian conservatives.
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Despite his tawdry personal morals and lack of principles, I'd willingly vote for Trump for president if he were the Republican nominee (fat chance, but if.....).
Anybody, but anybody, is better than the current occupant of the White House.
Oh absolutely. I'd vote for my dog catcher before Lord Stinky. Heck, I'd vote for my cat before the community commie lover.
Although I'd be less than honest if I didnt say that Im really dreading the idea of having to hold my nose again to vote for another RINO.