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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: FreeBorn on May 11, 2011, 02:09:15 AM
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The subject of Peace Corps volunteers, young American women to be exact, being raped overseas has made the rounds in the Cave before. The ugly truth that the Peace Corps doesn't want made public, that they ignored repeated pleas for help from these women, almost a thousand of whom have been raped over the past decade.
This time it gets a little more sinister. In the past the Peace Corps was at least guilty of ignoring them and offering no support. At worst the Peace Corps officially blamed the victims, going way beyond just dropping the ball.
Now one of these victims claims she was impregnated in one of these rapes and the Peace Corps, as before, offered her no help. In fact they have offered her an ultimatum, "get an abortion or you are out of the Peace Corps".
Is the Peace Corps not a progressive organization led by hard left liberals? What happened to a woman's right to choose??????? Hmmm...
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=13538455
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WOW. I don't even know what to say about this.
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Well, if one looks at the actual "work" side of being involved with the Peace Corps, I wouldn't want to raise MY child in one of those third world shit holes. So, it KIND of makes sense to me, even though it's morally wrong. I guess where I see the failure of the Peace Corps is that they have failed to protect their workers. I'm sure that when someone signs up with them that there are some major caveats, relinquishing their responsibilities.
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Well, if one looks at the actual "work" side of being involved with the Peace Corps, I wouldn't want to raise MY child in one of those third world shit holes. So, it KIND of makes sense to me, even though it's morally wrong. Quote----
So what happend to the worker that was raped, what kind of decision did she make????
There is much more to this story then told so far.
How can the Peace Corps protect any of its workers, I guess where I see the failure of the Peace Corps is that they have failed to protect their workers. I'm sure that when someone signs up with them that there are some major caveats, relinquishing their responsibilities.
NUTS, in some places males are raped. All part of the human adventure into life styles other then our own--what do people expect a cop on the corner in the middle of a rain forest????
A risk is taken every day in any society, a tiger may eat you, you may die of a dart gun, going into a 7/11 may bring you face to face with a serial killer in LA.
The problem is not the Peace Corps that did not protect her, what, she expected an armed body guard at all times????
Shit happens and there is few to defend you when it comes about. Nuns are raped at the age of 70, then there are little kids stolen from their bedroom at night and murdered
Darn it all who can blame anyother then the criminal for a dirty deed.???
The Peace Corps send out people of all ages into other worlds, classes are given on the life style of the country they are going to. The volunteers are given months of training on the language, the religion and the traditions of the country.
Few can just walk off the street and decide to join the Peace Corps, one must have an ability and knowledge to make life a bit easier for those they go to help.
Piss me off here, my cousin went into South America with the Peace Corps and as an engining student built bridges to allow people to get to hospitals 3 miles down the road that without the bridge was 150 mile trek.
He spent 5 years in the jungle to help people to build homes and with other engineres found a way to irrigate their plants and bring fresh water to a village that had from time began carried water in in jugs on their heads.
The Peace Corps has changed the lives of millions world wide, there is less risk to a worker for the Peace Corps in a foreign country then that there is for some one going into the Ghettos of American city's
I have much love for the people that risk life and limb to help out others in far away places with strange sounding names.
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Peace Corps..... Piece Core.
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The subject of Peace Corps volunteers, young American women to be exact, being raped overseas has made the rounds in the Cave before. The ugly truth that the Peace Corps doesn't want made public, that they ignored repeated pleas for help from these women, almost a thousand of whom have been raped over the past decade.
This time it gets a little more sinister. In the past the Peace Corps was at least guilty of ignoring them and offering no support. At worst the Peace Corps officially blamed the victims, going way beyond just dropping the ball.
Now one of these victims claims she was impregnated in one of these rapes and the Peace Corps, as before, offered her no help. In fact they have offered her an ultimatum, "get an abortion or you are out of the Peace Corps".
Is the Peace Corps not a progressive organization led by hard left liberals? What happened to a woman's right to choose??????? Hmmm...
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=13538455
You are forgetting...to a lib, there is only one right choice. If she is "stupid" enough to make the wrong choice, they'll be happy to kick her out of her job.
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Another liberal conundrum... which special interest takes precedent over another? Pro-abortion or multiculturalism?
What a horrible situation.
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And your point is, Vesta?? If men get raped, that is an act of violence and control. Men don't get pregnant as a result of rape. The fact is that the Peace Corps goes to shit hole countries. They do little to nothing to protect their workers. Should she have an armed guard at all times?? Probably not. However, I stand by my statement.
As far as your cousin, good on him.
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And your point is, Vesta?? If men get raped, that is an act of violence and control. Men don't get pregnant as a result of rape. The fact is that the Peace Corps goes to shit hole countries. They do little to nothing to protect their workers. Should she have an armed guard at all times?? Probably not. However, I stand by my statement.
As far as your cousin, good on him.
My point is, when someone signs up voluntary for service, be the Military, Missionary or Peace Corps, the people need in the military to be well trained in their jobs and the hazards they may face. The other civilian volunteers need to be just as well trained not only in self defence but the customs of where ever they go.
Operation Tail Hook comes to mind here for the Military, who would have thunk anything like this could happen.
There is a darn good reason woman have to be twice as prepared going into any situation even in their safe home town.
Am I sexest about this, you bet your Ass I am. ----The big hold over from my generation was the expression " Lady's don't fight", as a mother of 2 females I do not want to bury one of them thinking that at least my daughter died a Lady. Better to be a live non lady then a dead lady.
The very least the Peace Corp or Missionary services can do is to take the females just out of college and before sending them off to do good in their life is to train these innocents on self survival. The woman go forth into the world with high ideals and work their butts off others with the illusion those they help will appreciate them, never harm them. Bull Shit, they have their heads in the clouds if they expect to be looked at in any way different then the people look at their own woman.
How many Missionary's have ended up in the soup pot of those they have ministered to for 30 years in the last 300 years ???
In an ideal world the woman that wish to volunteer should go through boot camp same as the military. If for some physical reason they cannot make it, they should not be sent to places that demand tough woman, strong and capable, ready for anything. Their best work for those that have a need to help others should be done on American soil and not in some area with things they have never known to exist or know how to handle them.
Missionary's that travel the globe should go first to Israel and spend a year learning how the woman there survive in the military. ----
Was it not just a month ago when Missionary's who had sailed the globe handing out bibles were killed aboard their sailboat ??? They so believed God would protect them they had no weapons aboard, they in 15 years had never felt the need for any, God helps those that help themselves.
It is the liberals that head out not having any idea of what the real world outside America is composed of.
People in the service go to ports a shore and see things they never knew existed. So we turn woman from a Ivy League college loose in the same port, The worse Slums they ever saw was in NJ from the window of the Amtrac heading home for a polo game and the country club set.
People have rights they say until they are attacked in a country that believes the only ones with rights are the strongest and most violent among them.
What can the Peace Corp do to protect its female workers???? Not a hell of a lot so far, any more then a company anywhere is expected to protect its female workers. They can offer a morning after pill, suggest a D&C after a rape, what more is required of them ?????
Somewhere in here comes personal responsibility of the worker. They know the threats, they understand any and all problems that may come up with the job, What are they asking for, workmans compensation
for becoming a victim of a crime ????
Most all comunities world wide that took the road to becoming Pacifists have been destroyed since the days of Greece..
One can as we have seen in American History go forth and do good works but carry a Peace Maker at ones side.
If you have a child that is an idealest and desires to go into the Peace Corp, make sure they have training in self defence, send them to the Scouts camps to instill confidence and hard wire their brain for survival.
Some woman go into the Peace corp as shrinking violets, they want to help but have no survival instincts, training or confidence in themselves. If one must drag these girls even at the age of 16 to go into the Scouting camps, or take don't send the females to firing ranges---------Oh I cannot harm an ant---but they can be taught to fire a gun at a piece of paper. A condition for paying for their college works quite well
We teach our male children how to survive, if we don't they end up in jail. Our girls we pass over, some cockamamie idea that a male will protect her.
Times have just come full circle from the woman that shoot at Natives wanting to attack the home stead to a passive society that expects the government to protect them.
I would not finance a girls spring break in Mexico unless she had training in self defence-----Heck I would want her to have training just to go to NYC.
Just crazy old me :mental: my male children learned lessons in life, my girls had to be taught to survive, in 1974 when we drove through Louisianan the Neapolitan law still ex sisted in that state. Check it out, if married a woman could not sell property given to her by in hearentice without the permission of her husband, However the husband could sell her property without her knowledge.
Way off topic, I hope that this remuneration all about and every what way will be forgiven.
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vesta, I totally missed how you explained that is was OK to require her to abort in order to keep her job... :o