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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOBUCKS on May 05, 2011, 03:18:07 PM
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu May-05-11 03:49 PM
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On conspiracy thinking and mistrust of the government
Alas this latest OBL is dead, has opened yet another can of worms into this aspect of American culture. We DO NOT trust our government. It did not start with Reagan... or Hofstadter would have never written his major work on this in the 1950s. It is just there, in the background.
It doesn't help that the government at times does lie... see the major flibs[sic] of both the Gulf of Tonkin and the WMD Canard. But here we are... people on BOTH the right and the left of the political spectrum going... nope the story smells.
If it wasn't that predictable... but it is. In fact, it i[sic] a major component of who we are as a nation. And if you are to ask where does hit[sic] come from? Well apart of modern major fibs, look back all they[sic] way back to the Great Revolution... (no, not the American Revolution, hundred years before). But it is that great component of who we are and the LIBERTARIAN streak that runs across from the far right to the far left, with a few in the middle.
So yes, I guess we didn't land on the moon either.
So no, I will not make fun of this. I know where it is coming from... but I gotta recognize just how wide spread[sic] this is. Perhaps a not so healthy sign of where we are as a nation... oh and the deepening of that... yes I will thank George Bush for it. The latest fib to take the country to war was a huge one and easily provable.
The other, folks we are not exceptional nor an exceptional empire. In fact we are behaving the way empires in the terminal phase behave, and it is never pleasant to watch.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1044984
Most of the DUmmies will nod knowingly at this reference to Hofstadter's major work, and none of them were stumped by nutcase's reference to the Great Revolution.
The problem really is that no one on earth can fathom just what in the hell nutcase nadin is talking about. She just tells on flib after another.
dkf (1000+ posts) Thu May-05-11 04:00 PM
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2. You don't think we just killed OBL?
Help me, sensei.
Nutcase know-it-all nadin gently corrects the grasshopper:
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu May-05-11 04:06 PM
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5. I did not say that.
What I said is that the doubts you see are as American as apple pie. They are part of who we are.
I know we did... but I understand exactly where those ... doubts are coming from. And they are not exclusive to the right.... they span the whole spectrum.
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Maybe it's more to do with the fact this nation was born from a revolution against a historical government.
Of course, it's weird/hypocritical that the left that disapproves of every thing the government does and assigns the most malignant/profit motives to its every action and bemoan the corruption of their rulers...
...want that same government to have ironclad control of their education, food, health, retirement, etc etc etc
"A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have." --attributed to Thomas Jefferson.
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Maybe it's more to do with the fact this nation was born from a revolution against a historical government.
That, and also the fact that from the earliest Indian tribe peace treaties down to Bill Clinton's Presidency (And probably a lot of things since that haven't come to light yet), we have a very, very long track record of anyone who really trusts the government getting completely burned.
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Interesting exchange between an anonymous, faceless, worthless DUmmy and nutcase nadin:
robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Thu May-05-11 05:52 PM
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26. I met Dick Gregory once
when I was tending bar in about 1979 in an airport departure lounge and he was waiting to catch a flight. I got his autograph because I had always admired his comedy, and mostly his work on behalf of civil rights, the fastings, etc., and the risks he took when he didn't have to, for his principles. It was then later when I learned that Dick Gregory does not believe in the mooon landings by the US astronauts.
If you can believe it, the following from nutcase nadin, who a couple of weeks ago ran over to the other nuts at OET to weep and moan about the bullies and stalkers at the DUmp. She blamed the problem on Skimmer and his flunkies for not shutting down the ungrateful DUmmies who didn't bow down before her superior wisdom and condescending arrogance. Now she loves the joint:
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu May-05-11 06:29 PM
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27. I love DU, I learned about another person to admire
to a point.. I had to google up who Gregory was...
Thank you
Flash!! Flash!!
Unbelievable! Know-it-all nadin admits she doesn't know something! Know-it-all nadin admits to using Google! And it was something as obvious as knowledge of who Dick Gregory was! All this time, we thought the Google people got their answers from nutcase nadinbrzhzhzski.
She pretends "important work by Hofstadter" is common knowledge, to highlight the ignorance of her DUmp audience, but hasn't heard of Dick Gregory. World class pretension. What a piece of work.
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She is once again all over the place.
I pray there will always be those who doubt and question, because loony tunes or not - we hear from them because we are free to voice our opinions.
So Nadin, you certifiable needy loon, we here at the CC are thrilled you can post your incoherent ramblings at will. Carry on.