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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Tucker on May 03, 2011, 03:04:59 AM
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This is a huge campfire.
Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-02-11 11:43 AM
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This Is Why A Majority of Americans Don't Support Liberals/Progressives
How is it that Liberals/Progressives who's stance on issues are in line with a majority of Americans cannot translate their position into elected majorities across the nation? How?
Just read the littany of hand-wringing posts about the death of Bin Laden. Read how so many of us either don't believe that he's dead, or is upset that he wasn't brought to trial, etc.
This need to feel sanctimonius at all times, this need to feel morally superior, this need to reject ANY connection with your fellow citizen's joy over the death of a man that killed thousands of innocent people all over the world, this need to feel above your fellow Americans is what dooms the entire Liberal/Progressive agenda.
I'm glad that Osama Bin Laden is dead. I'm glad that we killed him. He was engaging in war fare against the U.S., and his tactic was targeting and killing innocent people. He was engaging in this war fare even before 9/11. Killing him was the right and correct course of action.
sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-02-11 11:45 AM
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2. Thank God most liberal democrats don't really agree with much
of anything that DU's holy leftists spew.
Cuts right to the bone.
JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-02-11 11:57 AM
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32. Me too... but I'll take it further still...
I am not going to chastise another for their feelings on this. People have been through hell. If they want to celebrate, it's their business just as their feelings are their own business.
What I really hate is the sanctimonious assholery here wherein people are telling other people how to feel.
MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-02-11 11:48 AM
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7. The need to feel sanctimonious or to feel morally superior is a trait of all humans.
...of which, Liberals and Progressives are but one subset
I always suspected that Y'All were less than human.
WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-02-11 11:48 AM
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10. DU is not reality Updated at 3:18 PM
Yankees suck
Direct from the Pittster.
Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-02-11 11:50 AM
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13. Bullshit. Updated at 3:36 AM
Edited on Mon May-02-11 11:53 AM by Hissyspit
That is not "why a majority of Americans don't support liberals and progressives."
I'm dying to find out why.
The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-02-11 11:52 AM
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22. If they're young liberals, I can understand the disconnect.
They're still in the abstract stage. Older liberals, nope. No excuse.
Most liberals switch to conservative when they get a job and start paying taxes. Those whom are still liberal and old, probably never had steady employment.
bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-02-11 09:56 PM
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152. Some of the worst are old stoners. nt
Yep.
Way too many replies and I on my way back to TN.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-02-11 12:13 PM
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47. +1000
Zhade (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-02-11 02:22 PM
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110. ****ING. PWNED.
Well-played.
dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-02-11 03:12 PM
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130. clearly stated.
thanks!
KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-02-11 11:01 PM
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173. +1
coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue May-03-11 12:03 AM
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192. Small point, but Huck Finn is maybe the first American literary hero, resolving to free his
friend, the slave Jim, from captivity even if Huck goes to hell for doing so.
Think you might mean instead Tom Sawyer who also had a naughty-boy adorableness but without Huck's redeeming and transcendant qualities.
Otherwise, I'm with you. I'm sick of the atavistic jingoism so prevalent here lately these past couple days and the crass appeals to vigilantism and realpolitik (might makes right).
Wind Dancer (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue May-03-11 12:50 AM
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212. Well said!
Thank you!
We are left to wonder about this accolade-winning comment.
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Yavin4
This Is Why A Majority of Americans Don't Support Liberals/Progressives
How is it that Liberals/Progressives who's stance on issues are in line with a majority of Americans cannot translate their position into elected majorities across the nation? How?
This disconnect these fools have when it come to reality fascinates most of us. But this claim that liberal ideology is in line with most American's, but that voters continue to vote "against their own best interest" (not stated by OP, but rather implied), is one reason people view them in this manner:
This need to feel sanctimonius at all times, this need to feel morally superior, this need to reject ANY connection with your fellow citizen's ..., this need to feel above your fellow Americans is what dooms the entire Liberal/Progressive agenda.
The primitive both asks why and states what the results are of such behavior, yet fails to recognine the thing he condemns was the very first thing he did. That's why I don't even try to talk to these dolts.
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I am bedazzled.
I agree with the Pitt.
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Thread features a very long fight between Screaming Meemie and Pamela Troy.
Here's a quote that I thought illustrated the smug high-handedness of the topic, a guy with a Canadian flag for an avatar:
murphyj87 (334 posts) Mon May-02-11 12:03 PM
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39. Americans don't elect liberals.....
Americans don't elect liberals because the United States, as a general principle, has a right wing, reactionary philosophy compared to Canada and most of the rest of the industrialized world. In many areas, American thinking is 50 years behind the the rest of the industrialized world, which is the reason why the United States is not respected in most of the industrialized world.
And here is an astuonding quote:
mountainlion55 (149 posts) Mon May-02-11 10:09 PM
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156. agreed
IMO another reason is that fully 40% in the latest polling I've seen think that the world was created 6000yrs ago and we rode on dinosaurs like the Flintstones. And you know Sky Daddy don't like Muslims.
Where is that poll? Doesn't exist. You made it up, which is another reason the general public doesn't like libs&progs.
DirkGently (1000+ posts) Mon May-02-11 12:41 PM
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60. **** everyone who doesn't support Liberals / Progressives. They're the problem, not us.
Forgive me if I don't convert.
I liked this quote:
Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Mon May-02-11 01:06 PM
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81. We have people here who want to outlaw porn & pancakes, yet demand 'cultural sensitivity' for FGM.
To say that there are corners of this place that are 'out of touch' is an understatement.
Someone said something to get deleted, but this one captured what was scrubbed:
WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Mon May-02-11 03:03 PM
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127. I almost alerted on this, but decided not to
Edited on Mon May-02-11 03:06 PM by WildEyedLiberal
I want EVERYONE to see that yes, the far left can be just as ugly, racist, hateful, and utterly detached from reality as the far right. There are too many ostriches here who pretend that the wacko left either doesn't exist or isn't that bad - well, yes it does, and yes it is. Political extremism is vile no matter where it's coming from.
Edit: Whoops, it already got disappeared. But to recap, the (now hopefully banned) poster called Obama an Uncle Tom, said Bin Laden was a great and generous man, and could not wait until America, NATO, "the Christian West," and "Zionists" met their terrible fate at the hands of the anti-imperialists like Osama.
Could be a RW troll trying to stir shit up, but I've read enough Z Magazine, Counterpunch, and wsws to know that, unfortunately, these people really do exist.
Thanks for saving it, WEL!
Kurovski makes a Freudian slip:
Kurovski (1000+ posts) Tue May-03-11 03:30 AM
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307. Do you remember Obama's plan to bankrupt America with endless wars?
The Arabic-language network Al-Jazeera released a full transcript Monday of the most recent videotape from Osama bin Laden in which the head of al Qaeda said his group's goal is to force America into bankruptcy.
:lmao:
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I am bedazzled.
I agree with the Pitt.
For which sentiment--that "DU is out of touch with reality," or "Yankees suck?" :tongue: :fuelfire:
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Union Scribe (904 posts) Tue May-03-11 01:43 AM
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249. We get it. You're a better person than everyone else.
You're the very portrait of liberal virtue and blah blah blah. Maybe you could be self-satisfied more...quietly?
This is what drives me nuts about that place. It's not just that they're moronic. It's not just that they're rigid in their ideology. thsoe things I can put up with. It's the damn idea that their idea is, by the sheer fact that it exists, better than anything anyone else can ever come up with. "Progressive" and "Liberal" used to mean, at least to some, "open minded." DUmmies are more stringent and strident in their ideology than any 1692 Puritan.
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Union Scribe (904 posts) Tue May-03-11 01:43 AM
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249. We get it. You're a better person than everyone else.
You're the very portrait of liberal virtue and blah blah blah. Maybe you could be self-satisfied more...quietly?
This is what drives me nuts about that place. It's not just that they're moronic. It's not just that they're rigid in their ideology. thsoe things I can put up with. It's the damn idea that their idea is, by the sheer fact that it exists, better than anything anyone else can ever come up with. "Progressive" and "Liberal" used to mean, at least to some, "open minded." DUmmies are more stringent and strident in their ideology than any 1692 Puritan.
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Here's another thing that turns people off: The constant race card, and the "Brown People Can Do No Wrong" syndrome. Beck was just replaying Laura Logan's interview about her ordeal in the Egyptian mob. They raped her from front and back and everywhere and tried to tear her scalp off. She was prepared to die.
Remember one Miss Beth Ferrari, who said of the incident "It was 1 story, and uncorroberated." Bitch.
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This is what drives me nuts about that place. It's not just that they're moronic. It's not just that they're rigid in their ideology. thsoe things I can put up with. It's the damn idea that their idea is, by the sheer fact that it exists, better than anything anyone else can ever come up with. "Progressive" and "Liberal" used to mean, at least to some, "open minded." DUmmies are more stringent and strident in their ideology than any 1692 Puritan.
To quote Reagan: "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so."
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Here's another thing that turns people off: The constant race card, and the "Brown People Can Do No Wrong" syndrome. Beck was just replaying Laura Logan's interview about her ordeal in the Egyptian mob. They raped her from front and back and everywhere and tried to tear her scalp off. She was prepared to die.
Remember one Miss Beth Ferrari, who said of the incident "It was 1 story, and uncorroberated." Bitch.
First, they were just doing what muslim men do and then they would have stoned her to death for committing adultery.
"The Religion of Peace"...I get pissed off everytime I hear someone say that.
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The guy who wrote this is troubled that he's among the elite:
who's[sic] stance on issues are[sic] in line
read the littany[sic] of hand-wringing posts
:lmao:
many of us either don't believe that he's dead, or is[sic] upset
He was engaging in war fare [sic]
(War fare at the air port?)
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(War fare at the air port?)
Well THAT'S a bitch, you not only have to go fight, you have to pay your own way!
:rotf:
ETA: Or, alternatively -
Son of a bitch, those bloodsucking airline bastards will charge extra for anything!
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For which sentiment--that "DU is out of touch with reality," or "Yankees suck?" :tongue: :fuelfire:
Yes.
:whistling:
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The reason why the American people don't support regressives is because a majority of Americans love America whereas a majority of regressives are bitter American hating people.