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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on April 29, 2011, 07:05:40 PM
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr-29-11 07:50 PM
Original message
I need help vs. a ill-informed teabagger
Here's the thread so far:
TB: We should stop calling it "Government Funding". It's "Forced Donations" paid for by American taxpayers!
ME: Corporations don't pay taxes - shouldn't they be referred to as FREE LOADERS? How about Welfare Queens? Leaches? etc... BTW, we pay more than government funded millionaire Carl Paladino.
Me: So when the southern states get federal funding to help with the weather disasters - are those forced donations?
TB: I thought we had one of the highest corporate tax rates there are 28%more then what Obama paid.Federal disaster funding might better be served by the states or have the same theory that everyone else uses it we'll get our share as in many other programs including unemploment
I need help in addressing the last comment.
Thank you in advance.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x990389
He or she is ill informed and yet, it is you asking your fellow DUmpmonkeys for talking points.
LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr-29-11 07:53 PM
Response to Original message
1. Although on the books it looks like we have the highest tax rate for
corporations, what happens is every powerful corporation is able to lobby for tax loopholes. Thus huge companies like "GE" pay ZERO in taxes.
That's because GE is in bed with Obama, and Obama takes care of his buddies, just look at all the health care waivers.
emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr-29-11 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #1
7. Yes, and Obama is in favor of lowering the corporate tax rate and CLOSING ALL LOOP HOLES
so all corps pay their fair share.
That being said, tea baggers are quite good at Changing the subject when cornered, Red Herrings, and putting words in your mouth (hyperbolically twisting your words to make it seem you are arguing for something else.) I've pretty much given up on them, they are so intellectually dishonest.
Yet you scream like a stuck pig when Congressman Ryan, proposes doing that for the rich. Cutting out loopholes, and cutting the rate.
Here's a lesson for free from uncle Freeper to you lurking DUmmies, corporations pay zero taxes, they may be assessed taxes every year, however they pass on their tax burden on to the consumer. For example Frito lay, and the 7-11 where you buy the Cheetos, both pass on their tax burden when you buy that bag of Cheetos to go with your weed. Just like when you get to the counter at Costco, and that back massager says, $19.99 on the price tag, you pay more than $20 because they are adding on sales tax. The difference is, you actually see the sales tax added in.
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If the Tea-bagger (BTW DUmbasses: how do my balls taste?) is the ill-informed one why are you begging for information?
Apparently you don't even have a solid set of principles to reason out an answer.
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If the Tea-bagger (BTW DUmbasses: how do my balls taste?) is the ill-informed one why are you begging for information?
Apparently you don't even have a solid set of principles to reason out an answer.
None of them can debate a tea bagger without having to run to the hive for talking points.
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Just think DUmmies, if you get your legalized pot like you want, they will tax that too. The "big corporations" selling you the pot won't actually pay the tax as they will pass the tax on to you as a higher price. Then the government will slap a tax on top of it. Suddenly your cheep pot will cost you so much you will have to chose between your daily pot and food.
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No callouts on this transparently fake story? Not even one? Dang, they're slipping.
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I wonder why they never post a link to the original discussion. I ran a couple of the DUmmy's lines through Google and came up with a link back to the same DUmp thread.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr-29-11 07:50 PM
Original message
I need help vs. a ill-informed teabagger
Here's the thread so far:
TB: We should stop calling it "Government Funding". It's "Forced Donations" paid for by American taxpayers!
ME: Corporations don't pay taxes - shouldn't they be referred to as FREE LOADERS? How about Welfare Queens? Leaches? etc... BTW, we pay more than government funded millionaire Carl Paladino.
Me: So when the southern states get federal funding to help with the weather disasters - are those forced donations?
TB: I thought we had one of the highest corporate tax rates there are 28%more then what Obama paid.Federal disaster funding might better be served by the states or have the same theory that everyone else uses it we'll get our share as in many other programs including unemploment
I need help in addressing the last comment.
Thank you in advance.
She entered into a battle of wits completely unarmed and then to show just how completely unarmed she happened to be she went to the gathering place of the unarmed for assistance. Good thing that it was an "ill-informed" tea party member and not a normal one.
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Just think DUmmies, if you get your legalized pot like you want, they will tax that too. The "big corporations" selling you the pot won't actually pay the tax as they will pass the tax on to you as a higher price. Then the government will slap a tax on top of it. Suddenly your cheep pot will cost you so much you will have to chose between your daily pot and food.
That may be the only way to get dummies to actually pay some taxes. :fuelfire:
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Suddenly your cheep pot will cost you so much you will have to chose between your daily pot and food.
DUmp democrats already make that choice every day.
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DUmp democrats already make that choice every day.
Damn near a dog cocks it's head type of thing.
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This may be a mole.
They're trying to get the DUmp to acknowledge that companies don't in fact pay tax (what they do is collect it by proxy for the government from the consumer), so that hopefully the cognitive dissonance from demanding higher taxes on corporations (and the rich) and expecting the goods and services those companies provide to remain constant in price will become apparent.