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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOBUCKS on April 27, 2011, 03:08:30 PM
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DUmmy Atman, apparently having wangled permission from his bosses at the junk mail company to access lunatic sites on his lunch hour, pitches his race card whine. Pedro is cruising dangerously near the precipice, mentioning this place in code:
Atman (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-27-11 12:41 PM
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This is why Obama shouldn't have bothered with the B.C.
Already the nut-jobs and tea-baggers and Cave dwellers are grasping at anything and moving the goalpost, just as so many of us said they would. A sampling (I can't provide links, but you know where I found these)...
* The "Mailing Address" line is left blank. Of course, when you supply a street address, the mailing address is unnecessary, but still, they say this is clearly evidence of fraud.
* Also, what about his draft registration? If he didn't register for the draft, then all his student loans and transcripts are also fraudulent. Except, I'm older than Obama, born in 1959...the draft was cancelled shortly after I entered High School. I assume it was for people born in 1961, as well.
* There is no raised seal. They find this "interesting," as someone else posting has a raised seal on his B.C. Clearly more evidence of fraud somehow.
* Obama's mother is listed as being 18 at age of birth (a fact which no one ever denied)...this is more evidence that he is illegitimate.
* There is no space for "Race of Child." They also find this "interesting," that the mother and father's race is indicated, but not the child's. Well, you stupid ****ing morons, if the mother is Caucasian and the father is Caucasian, it would be safe to assume the child was as well. But if the mother was Caucasian and the father was African, uh...the child wouldn't be Caucasian. Why would they need a separate blank for this?
* Of course, they now insist this proves nothing, that he has to provide his college transcripts, too.
Just as we said they would do. Racism by any other name is...Donald Trump, whom they praise to high heaven for being a hero for America.
Obama should have just told them to go **** themselves. NOTHING will make these people happy, because Obama is black.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x970906
sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-27-11 12:47 PM
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2. Yes, those who were born brainless will continue through life without brains.
Atman (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-27-11 12:48 PM
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4. No racism here...move along...
An exact quote from one of the other posts, in reference to the Mailing Address line being blank...
"I guess it's hard to get mail addressed to Some Mud Hut Kenya."
But of course, this has nothing to do with Obama's race.
The racists DUmmies are at it again! There are no doubt several hospitals in Nairobi.
DUmbass DUmp democrats like Pedro think all Africans live in mud huts, wear loincloths, and go topless for National Geographic photographers.
GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-27-11 12:57 PM
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17. Exactly right.
Many of them are not "birthers", but they ARE uninformed, and therefore tend to be the most susceptible to the lies that are repeated so often they become "the truth". The President just shined the light on the cockroaches who are purveying the lie. It's a sad reflection on this country that he was forced to do so.
librechik (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-27-11 01:01 PM
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23. They just look totally crazy in front of the whole world now, instead of in the shadows
it was a good thing. We'll never convince the Taitz, but independents on the fence are getting an eyeful today
This DUmmy adds nothing whatever to the thread, but I just can't resist the Pittian dots. They're like spray-on gravitas:
Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-27-11 01:04 PM
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26. They. Already. Looked. As. Crazy. As. They. Possibly. Could.
NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-27-11 01:24 PM
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33. It would matter in 2012. The media will start bringing
it up right in the middle of the campaign, just like they did with Kerry and the Swift Liars.
They'll start by asking things like, "Is there anything to the claims Obama wasn't born here?" And then they'll have some birthers on and give them a platform to spew their lies. Nothing will ever be proven, of course, but the media can just keep "asking questions" to try to plant the seed of doubt.
I doubt the jug-eared Kenyan wants his disciples to bring up the Swift Boat since it's clear they were telling the truth, and in fact played a major role in sending John F'n back to his untaxed yacht. Nope, the Kenyan doesn't want to touch the Swift Boat veterans with a ten-foot pole, and he's sure to be nervous about Corsi nosing around.
librechik (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-27-11 12:52 PM
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9. " it will never be enough, bc there isn't a document in the world that can turn him white" twitter
Such a document would probably be as authentic as this birth certificate.
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This is from the same site that has no difficulty in demanding from Sarah Palin she provide proof she gave birth to Trig. ::)
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Flattering to know we Cave Dwellers are framing the debate over at the loony bin. :-)
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* There is no raised seal. They find this "interesting," as someone else posting has a raised seal on his B.C. Clearly more evidence of fraud somehow.
Both mine and my daughter's have the raised seal. I'm sure my husband's does as well.
My BC is sitting right in front of me. I need it for the 911 dispatcher job with Metro. You wouldn't believe the things you need for this job. If I have to provide my birth certificate, diploma, college transcripts, etc etc etc (and there are a lot of etc's...) just to be a dispatcher for the fabulous city of Las Vegas, NV, then damn it, SHOW US THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND COLLEGE TRANSCRIPTS!
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* Of course, they now insist this proves nothing, that he has to provide his college transcripts, too.
No, no. Best keep those suppressed.
Us dumb knuckle-dragging goobers wouldn't want to be overwhelmed and shamed at the awesomely awesomeness that is Obama's brain.
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I thought Assman was so smart. President Carter signed an order in 1980 for retroactive registration and Obama would have been required to register.
From Wikipedia:
On July 2, 1980, however, President Carter signed Proclamation 4771, Registration Under the Military Selective Service Act, retroactively re-establishing the Selective Service registration requirement for all 18–26 year old male citizens born on or after January 1, 1960.[10] Only men born between March 29, 1957, and December 31, 1959, were completely exempt from Selective Service registration.[11] The first registrations after Proclamation 4771 took place on Monday, July 21, 1980, for those men born in January, February and March 1960 at U.S. Post Offices. Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays were reserved for men born in the later quarters of the year, and registration for men born in 1961 began the following week.[12]
Atman (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-27-11 12:41 PM
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* Also, what about his draft registration? If he didn't register for the draft, then all his student loans and transcripts are also fraudulent. Except, I'm older than Obama, born in 1959...the draft was cancelled shortly after I entered High School. I assume it was for people born in 1961, as well.
Obama should have just told them to go **** themselves. NOTHING will make these people happy, because Obama is black.
And as we have all come to expect, when a DUmmie cannot win an argument, he predictably pulls out the racist card. Assman likes to think he's smarter than cave dwellers but we all know he's just a big dumbass.
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Shut up, Pedro!! It's got nothing to do with race, you simpleton. Like all libs, Dear Leader is anti-American trash and whatever creates problems for him is deserved.
Poor Pedro.
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Both mine and my daughter's have the raised seal. I'm sure my husband's does as well.
My BC is sitting right in front of me. I need it for the 911 dispatcher job with Metro. You wouldn't believe the things you need for this job. If I have to provide my birth certificate, diploma, college transcripts, etc etc etc (and there are a lot of etc's...) just to be a dispatcher for the fabulous city of Las Vegas, NV, then damn it, SHOW US THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND COLLEGE TRANSCRIPTS!
But all you need to be a democrat president is black skin.
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:lmao: he mentioned my asking about the raised seal :heart: I always get a rise out of men.
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Both mine and my daughter's have the raised seal. I'm sure my husband's does as well.
My BC is sitting right in front of me. I need it for the 911 dispatcher job with Metro. You wouldn't believe the things you need for this job. If I have to provide my birth certificate, diploma, college transcripts, etc etc etc (and there are a lot of etc's...) just to be a dispatcher for the fabulous city of Las Vegas, NV, then damn it, SHOW US THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND COLLEGE TRANSCRIPTS!
Yep! hubby and I both have the raised seal.
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Shut up, Pedro!! It's got nothing to do with race, you simpleton. Like all libs, Dear Leader is anti-American trash and whatever creates problems for him is deserved.
Poor Pedro.
Racism will be the talking point of this campaign, after all how can Obama run on his record? high unemployment, high gas prices, high food prices. The good thing though? people won't be intimidated by the race card anymore.
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Racism will be the talking point of this campaign, after all how can Obama run on his record? high unemployment, high gas prices, high food prices. The good thing though? people won't be intimidated by the race card anymore.
At the DUmp, you're a racist if you criticize Mugabe (who appears to be the Kenyan's role model).
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Atman plagairized his whole post. Lifted it right from the cave.
Johnny Reb said this in the Breaking News.
Mothers mailing address space........empty.
I guess it's hard to get mail addressed to Some Mud Hut Kenya.
P.S. My Ohio one has a raised seal, my husband's NY one has little footprints.
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P.S. My Ohio one has a raised seal, my husband's NY one has little footprints.
I'll bet even a valid official document from Kenya has a raised seal.
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He mentioned the lack of the race of the child. Hey, Assman, . . . :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:
You're a ****ing hosebag. :fuelfire:
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Atman (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-27-11 12:41 PM
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This is why Obama shouldn't have bothered with the B.C.
Already the nut-jobs and tea-baggers and Cave dwellers are grasping at anything and moving the goalpost...
Hiya, Atman! Remember me? When you decided to drag your sorry ass across the carpet at CU, I was the one who pointed out what an utter coward you were for claiming you would enlist if our country was ever attacked but didn't bother when the jihadis flew airplanes into buildings in 2001.
:-)
Now, since I know you and the rest of the lowlifes at the DUmp lurk and read here (CC), I would like to take this opportunity to let you shitheads know my thoughts: I'm willing to say that this BC is legitimate.
That's right, it's legitimate and Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Hawaii to two completely useless, pond scum, America hating, communist, piece o shit parents. I'll take it on face value that for probably the first time in his adult life, Barack Hussein Obama II was telling the full truth in regards to his State of birth and, for good measure, I applaud him for finally coming clean with the American public after years of obfuscating when asked about this simple document. I think it showed tremendous character for him to finally uphold that promise of "transparency" that he made as a candidate and again while assuming the Office of President Elect.
I gladly accept this as prima facie evidence that he was born in Hawaii to Stanley Ann Dunham Obama (age 18) of Wichita, Kansas, and Barack Hussein Obama (age 25) of Kenya, East Africa, at 7:24 (PM) on August 4th, 1961, neither of which could confer Natural Born status to him to make him eligible to be President of the United States!
So you see, DUmmie ****heads, that your "messiah" (spit) is an usurper and not legally qualified to be President.
You have been fed a lie that you blindly swallowed for years, and don't think for one hot second that Hillary's buddies won't hesitate to finish the job of getting rid of his ass (in court) like they tried to do before he was falsely certified as legally elected.
Enjoy the rest of your evening...
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Hiya, Atman! Remember me? When you decided to drag your sorry ass across the carpet at CU, I was the one who pointed out what an utter coward you were for claiming you would enlist if our country was ever attacked but didn't bother when the jihadis flew airplanes into buildings in 2001.
:-)
Now, since I know you and the rest of the lowlifes at the DUmp lurk and read here (CC), I would like to take this opportunity to let you shitheads know my thoughts: I'm willing to say that this BC is legitimate.
That's right, it's legitimate and Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Hawaii to two completely useless, pond scum, America hating, communist, piece o shit parents. I'll take it on face value that for probably the first time in his adult life, Barack Hussein Obama II was telling the full truth in regards to his State of birth and, for good measure, I applaud him for finally coming clean with the American public after years of obfuscating when asked about this simple document. I think it showed tremendous character for him to finally uphold that promise of "transparency" that he made as a candidate and again while assuming the Office of President Elect.
I gladly accept this as prima facie evidence that he was born in Hawaii to Stanley Ann Dunham Obama (age 18) of Wichita, Kansas, and Barack Hussein Obama (age 25) of Kenya, East Africa, at 7:24 (PM) on August 4th, 1961, neither of which could confer Natural Born status to him to make him eligible to be President of the United States!
So you see, DUmmie ****heads, that your "messiah" (spit) is an usurper and not legally qualified to be President.
You have been fed a lie that you blindly swallowed for years, and don't think for one hot second that Hillary's buddies won't hesitate to finish the job of getting rid of his ass (in court) like they tried to do before he was falsely certified as legally elected.
Enjoy the rest of your evening...
H5!!!!
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Both mine and my daughter's have the raised seal. I'm sure my husband's does as well.
My BC is sitting right in front of me. I need it for the 911 dispatcher job with Metro. You wouldn't believe the things you need for this job. If I have to provide my birth certificate, diploma, college transcripts, etc etc etc (and there are a lot of etc's...) just to be a dispatcher for the fabulous city of Las Vegas, NV, then damn it, SHOW US THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND COLLEGE TRANSCRIPTS!
So does mine and I was born in 1959.
Cindie
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My BC is 65 years old and has been folded in 2 places. It also shows some age and wear and tear. That's a mighty fine looking BC Obama has there. I guess his grandmaw knew he was going to need it if she was ever going to get him a job he thought he was worthy of him.
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I gladly accept this as prima facie evidence that he was born in Hawaii to Stanley Ann Dunham Obama (age 18) of Wichita, Kansas, and Barack Hussein Obama (age 25) of Kenya, East Africa, at 7:24 (PM) on August 4th, 1961, neither of which could confer Natural Born status to him to make him eligible to be President of the United States!
If he was born in Hawaii, he would be eligible for the office. It has never been specifically adjudicated, because there's never been litigation over a person's eligibility for the presidency. But citizenship of parents has never prevented a child born on U.S. soil from being considered a citizen. If you aren't conferred naturalized citizenship through the courts, then you're natural born. There isn't a third category.
The question is authenticity of the $2 million document from the Honolulu Kinko's.
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If he was born in Hawaii, he would be eligible for the office. It has never been specifically adjudicated, because there's never been litigation over a person's eligibility for the presidency. But citizenship of parents has never prevented a child born on U.S. soil from being considered a citizen. If you aren't conferred naturalized citizenship through the courts, then you're natural born. There isn't a third category.
The question is authenticity of the $2 million document from the Honolulu Kinko's.
I'm sorry but, no, that is not true. Especially not for the office of President.
His mother was not old enough and his father was a subject of the British Crown. He is not eligible.
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I was born at home and was delivered by my dad (my mom apparently waited too long to go to the hospital). I don't have a long form birth certificate, either, but I do have a certified copy of some sort of birth certificate.
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If he was born in Hawaii, he would be eligible for the office. Citizenship of parents has never prevented a child born on U.S. soil from being considered a citizen
I agree. I have a good friend and both his parents are British subjects living and working here as resident aliens, but he was born here and is a USA citizen. He's eligible, of that I have no doubt and cannot be convinced otherwise.
My position has been this: I never really doubted that he was born in Hawaii, but had it turned out he was born outside the borders of the USA and somehow his documents were forged to claim he was a US citizen, it wouldn't have surprised me in the least. For the political left in this country, anything is fair game to be manipulated and ignored for a possible advantage, and that's especially true of the US Constitution.
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I'm not a birther. What I am really more concerned about is the fact that he spent SO much money to "hide" this information. That throws a bunch of red flags for me. Why hide these items?
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Atman (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-27-11 12:41 PM
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* Also, what about his draft registration? If he didn't register for the draft, then all his student loans and transcripts are also fraudulent. Except, I'm older than Obama, born in 1959...the draft was cancelled shortly after I entered High School. I assume it was for people born in 1961, as well.
You ASSume wrong, as usual.
I was born in 1958. I didn't have to register with Selective Services, however, both my brothers, born in 1961 and 1964, had to.
Atman is a moron as well as a DUmbass.
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I'm not a birther. What I am really more concerned about is the fact that he spent SO much money to "hide" this information. That throws a bunch of red flags for me. Why hide these items?
Exactly!
If you have nothing to hide, you hide nothing.
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You ASSume wrong, as usual.
I was born in 1958. I didn't have to register with Selective Services, however, both my brothers, born in 1961 and 1964, had to.
Atman is a moron as well as a DUmbass.
I was born in '76 and had to register as soon as I turned 18 thanks to the incompitent one.
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This is from the same site that has no difficulty in demanding from Sarah Palin she provide proof she gave birth to Trig. ::)
...and that two planes, which everyone saw, didn't really fly into the twin towers.
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I'm not a birther. What I am really more concerned about is the fact that he spent SO much money to "hide" this information. That throws a bunch of red flags for me. Why hide these items?
Uh huh.
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I'm sorry but, no, that is not true. Especially not for the office of President.
His mother was not old enough and his father was a subject of the British Crown. He is not eligible.
Could explain this or flesh it out a little?
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Could explain this or flesh it out a little?
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/bon-appetite-birth-certificate/
Bon Appetit Birth Certificate…
I predicted multiple times that President Obama would produce the original long form birth certificate when it best served him to do so. Today that prophecy was fulfilled. I have always maintained that the birth certificate issue was a red herring smoke screen protecting Obama from facing the true issue of his ineligibility – dual nationality.
Like Chester Arthur before him, Obama was protected from genuine questions regarding his birth status having been governed, as he admits, by the United Kingdom via the faux BC issue until October 27, 2008 when I instituted my law suit against the New Jersey Secretary of State alleging that neither Obama nor McCain were eligible.
I predicted over and again that when it served Obama best, he would feed you an original birth certificate on national TV. Bon appetit to those who allowed this conspiracy theory to take precedence over the genuine legal issue: how a person born owing certain allegiance to a foreign nation can be a natural born citizen of the United States?. Since the BC was played so perfectly by the Obama team, the genuine legal issue will now be more marginalized than ever.
They simply played a better game of chess. And due to this sick game, Obama now sets a precedent that anyone who hates this country, from Osama Bin Laden to Kim Jong Il, can have a child with an American woman and that child can be President. Obama’s defeat of the dual nationality issue, in both the courts and the media, means that the President’s parents do not have to be US citizens. If that is true, then the natural born citizen requirement in Article 2 Section 1 of the Constitution is basically rendered meaningless.
If a person born with dual allegiance can be President, then I don’t see the difference between a citizen and a natural born citizen. To become naturalized as a US citizen, one must at least swear an oath of allegiance to the US by renouncing all other allegiances. But a person such as Obama, who was born with dual allegiance is apparently not even required to renounce all previous allegiances under oath.
The BC was a conspiracy theory. The dual nationality issue is a legal question. Obama always controlled the issue of whether or not he would produce the BC. But the legal issue was never under his control. So he exercised as much control over it as possible by allowing the birth certificate to fester casting a huge shadow over his dual allegiance. Well played, sir.
by Leo Donofrio, Esq.
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Could explain this or flesh it out a little?
As far as the issue with the Mother goes, people say if a child is born to 1 Parent who's a US Citizen and 1 Parent who isn't, the Parent who's the Citizen must've resided in the US for at least 5 years after the age of 16, I think it's contended that Obama's Mother left the US within that 5 year period hence Obama not being granted automatic Citizenship.
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As far as the issue with the Mother goes, people say if a child is born to 1 Parent who's a US Citizen and 1 Parent who isn't, the Parent who's the Citizen must've resided in the US for at least 5 years after the age of 16, I think it's contended that Obama's Mother left the US within that 5 year period hence Obama not being granted automatic Citizenship.
I thought the same thing until I looked it up today. That only applies if he was born outside of the US. So if this document is to be believed, and I'll wait on the verdict of it's legitimacy, he is a citizen as per the law.
My apologies to GOBUCKS, but not to the DUmmies. :-)
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As far as the issue with the Mother goes, people say if a child is born to 1 Parent who's a US Citizen and 1 Parent who isn't, the Parent who's the Citizen must've resided in the US for at least 5 years after the age of 16, I think it's contended that Obama's Mother left the US within that 5 year period hence Obama not being granted automatic Citizenship.
Thanks. I thought it was along those lines but I did not know any more than an age issue. Looks like wasp69 cleared it up further.
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No, no. Best keep those suppressed.
Us dumb knuckle-dragging goobers wouldn't want to be overwhelmed and shamed at the awesomely awesomeness that is Obama's brain.
Have ya heard about the college prof who says O'bummer is too intelligent for the job of pres? He says that given O'bwana's intellect, it's hard for him to focus on any given problem. He tries to think of every problem all at once.
No wonder our economy is headed down the toilet! Zero's thinkin' of when he's gonna take his next DUmp on Air Force One, flyin' around the country for his next close up, tellin' the rest of us we have to sacrifice our ass in order to satisfy ObamaCare! All of us except his buds, of course, who naturally get a pass! They did after all pad his bank account in order to get him elected!
When I heard that I damn near fell off my chair! I guess we need to elect DUmb****s like "W" to the highest office in the land, as they can actually focus on one problem at a time and get things done!
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Have ya heard about the college prof who says O'bummer is too intelligent for the job of pres? He says that given O'bwana's intellect, it's hard for him to focus on any given problem. He tries to think of every problem all at once.
Sounds like Lord Zero suffers from a very bad case of ADHD or ADD.
Too smart to be prez, too DUmb to go off teleprompter.