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Title: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 22, 2011, 12:03:56 PM
Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec0_1303444048

This is messed up. What is with these scumbags????????? From what I have read it happened in Baltimore.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: CG6468 on April 22, 2011, 12:09:25 PM
They know that they will not be arrested or punished. Thanks for continuing and accelerating this attitude, blammo.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Rebel on April 22, 2011, 12:30:01 PM
I would have loved to have seen someone armed stand up, assess the situation, determine that the kid was going into seizure and about to die, determine it to be attempted murder (A felony), and shot the pieces of ****. In Georgia you're within your rights to shoot a POS to stop a felony. People like this don't need to live among the civilized.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ballygrl on April 22, 2011, 12:39:55 PM
I think I need to start a thread in reference to this incident. :argh:
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ballygrl on April 22, 2011, 12:48:29 PM
After reading yet another thread about violence perpetrated by blacks on whites, and after other incidents of blacks perpetrating violence on hispanics and asians, and as we know black on black crime is high, what has to be done in the black community to stem this tide?

All I know is that I'm fed-up but have no idea what we as a society can do about it. It angers me that it gets ignored in the MSM unless the perpetrators are white or unless the victim is gay.

What is it going to F'ING TAKE for the good in the black community to say ENOUGH? why are they so accepting of bad behavior? what are the people in the inner cities so accepting of crime yet when a cop does his job they pounce all over him if he has to use his weapon?

Was this the ultimate attempt of the Democratic Party when they instituted Welfare and broke up the black family? how long does society have to put up with bad behavior?

Here's the video of the most recent attack:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec0_1303444048
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Texacon on April 22, 2011, 01:11:33 PM
After reading yet another thread about violence perpetrated by blacks on whites, and after other incidents of blacks perpetrating violence on hispanics and asians, and as we know black on black crime is high, what has to be done in the black community to stem this tide?

All I know is that I'm fed-up but have no idea what we as a society can do about it. It angers me that it gets ignored in the MSM unless the perpetrators are white or unless the victim is gay.

What is it going to F'ING TAKE for the good in the black community to say ENOUGH? why are they so accepting of bad behavior? what are the people in the inner cities so accepting of crime yet when a cop does his job they pounce all over him if he has to use his weapon?

Was this the ultimate attempt of the Democratic Party when they instituted Welfare and broke up the black family? how long does society have to put up with bad behavior?

Here's the video of the most recent attack:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec0_1303444048

As long as the black community is willing to put up with things like Ebonics and the continuation of the celebration of 'stupid' this is what you will see.

When you have a race of people who will put down their own for trying to achieve intellectually by telling them they are 'acting white' you have a huge problem.  The white community (or any other community) is not going to be able to do anything ... it will have to be fixed by the blacks.

KC
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Evil_Conservative on April 22, 2011, 01:17:07 PM
One of my Facebook friend's just posted this video.  I watched all the way until the end.

All I can say, had I been there to witness it, my gun would have been drawn.  Two bitches would have died in a McDonald's.  Those pieces of shit don't even deserve to walk this Earth. 

I'd like to know exactly what this girl did to deserve this kind of beating.

It sickens me even more that an older white woman had to break up the fight.  Then "MEN" there did nothing.  It was sick they were video taping that girl having a seizure too.  But hey, plenty of evidence for the trial.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 22, 2011, 01:20:34 PM
One of my Facebook friend's just posted this video.  I watched all the way until the end.

All I can say, had I been there to witness it, my gun would have been drawn.  Two bitches would have died in a McDonald's.  Those pieces of shit don't even deserve to walk this Earth.  

I'd like to know exactly what this girl did to deserve this kind of beating.

It sickens me even more that an older white woman had to break up the fight.  Then "MEN" there did nothing.  It was sick they were video taping that girl having a seizure too.  But hey, plenty of evidence for the trial.

I watched the whole thing too. Sickening! Larry Elder rails against this and yet he is called a "sellout".  :argh:
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Rebel on April 22, 2011, 01:27:13 PM
Was this the ultimate attempt of the Democratic Party when they instituted Welfare and broke up the black family? how long does society have to put up with bad behavior?

Yes.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: DLR Pyro on April 22, 2011, 01:29:02 PM
.  Then "MEN" there did nothing. 
I disagree.  Besides taping the attack, the "mem" repeatedly told the 2 black ****s that they had better go because the poe-lise were on the way.

Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ballygrl on April 22, 2011, 01:29:47 PM
Watching that video it's so disheartening. I've always lived in minority neighborhoods, never had a problem with hispanics, never had a problem with asians, but everyone in the neighborhood had problems with the black community, yes there were some really hard working nice ones, but the thugs silenced them, made them feel they were Uncle Tom's if they dare sided with someone outside their own race. After seeing this video? I'm fed-up!
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Rebel on April 22, 2011, 01:38:11 PM
http://www.thugreport.com/


The country has gone to shit since the Dims started turning anyone they looked at as a vote into an entitlement-minded piece of shit. Blacks used to have the strongest family structure in the country in the 40's. It's a Damn tragedy now.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ballygrl on April 22, 2011, 01:41:46 PM
http://www.thugreport.com/

The country has gone to shit since the Dims started turning anyone they looked at as a vote into an entitlement-minded piece of shit. Blacks used to have the strongest family structure in the country in the 40's. It's a Damn tragedy now.

And not 1 person in the black community standing up saying enough, Bill Cosby seems to of been silenced.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Toastedturningtidelegs on April 22, 2011, 01:48:58 PM
http://www.thugreport.com/


The country has gone to shit since the Dims started turning anyone they looked at as a vote into an entitlement-minded piece of shit. Blacks used to have the strongest family structure in the country in the 40's. It's a Damn tragedy now.
"I'll have them n***ers voting democrat for 200 years"....Thank you LBJ! :banghead:
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ballygrl on April 22, 2011, 01:51:57 PM
Interesting, someone posted this at FR, the media isn't covering this at all, but will they cover it now?

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Just to note. A careful examination of the video lends evidence to the idea that the victim here is a man and the beating was prompted by his use of the ladies room.

At :28 seconds the black girls are screaming about how “That’s some f*cked up shit”.

At around 1:00 there is an exchange where the white victim asks “Where am I supposed to f*cking go then?” and they call he/r a sick b*tch, repetedly.

At 1:07 they return to beat he/r and that is when the white victim loses the long brown wig and has shorter blond hair.

At 1:25 some guy clearly says “That’s a man.”

Through the rest of the video there is hair across the restaurant towards the door and that is from the black girl’s weave.

The white victim is also much taller than not only both the black girls but also the black male manager.

None of that excuses anyone’s actions.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Texacon on April 22, 2011, 01:55:56 PM
Interesting, someone posted this at FR, the media isn't covering this at all, but will they cover it now?


I don't know ... that changes quite a lot for me.  If that is true then I feel the beating was justified.  If my wife took my daughter into a restroom then came out and told me there was a guy in there dressed like a woman the beating on the video would have been mild in comparison to what I would have done.

KC
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ballygrl on April 22, 2011, 01:59:09 PM
I don't know ... that changes quite a lot for me.  If that is true then I feel the beating was justified.  If my wife took my daughter into a restroom then came out and told me there was a guy in there dressed like a woman the beating on the video would have been mild in comparison to what I would have done.

KC

Well I think it would get more coverage by the leftist media if the person was a transexual and condemnations would come in droves as opposed to it just being a white woman. I understand how you'd feel in that situation but I can't condone a beat down like that, if the person is a transexual then maybe call the cops.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Rebel on April 22, 2011, 02:03:11 PM
Look at minute 2:35. That "guy" had breasts. It's a female.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ballygrl on April 22, 2011, 02:06:49 PM
Look at minute 2:35. That "guy" had breasts. It's a female.

I just watched the horrible video again, I did hear the bystander say it's a guy, then I saw the breasts and not sure, if it was a transexual he could've used padding. I don't know though.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Evil_Conservative on April 22, 2011, 03:17:43 PM
I'm sure the victim was a female. 

If this was a trans-gender using the female restroom, that's fine.  As long as she/he is staying in his/her own locked stall.  I would never know if a trans-gender was in a restroom with me unless they were being completely obvious.  I would be kind of disgusted if they were flaunting "it".... but I wouldn't beat the piss out of someone like that. 
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Rebel on April 22, 2011, 03:31:00 PM
From across the pond, this time in London. ...which I find strange, since firearms are illegal in London. That can't be right. Once guns are banned, all firearm-related crime supposed to disappear, right?


Dad who split up fight in McDonald's shot dead (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/04/21/dad-who-split-up-fight-in-mcdonald-s-shot-dead-115875-23075797/)

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A DAD-of-four who split up a fight in a McDonald’s was shot dead moments after being told he wouldn’t see the morning.

Raymond Mitchell, 34, had only popped into the restaurant to buy a hot chocolate.

But he apparently caused offence after splitting up two men fighting in the queue.

One of them, who had several gold teeth, shouted at Raymond: “You are gonna die tonight, you are not gonna see the morning.”

The thug is then said to have phoned an accomplice to fetch a gun, yelling into his mobile: “Bring me that thing.”

Raymond left the 24-hour McDonald’s but was chased into a cul-de-sac. The gun was then delivered and Mr Mitchell was beaten and pistol-whipped before being shot three times in an alley in Brixton, South London, at 6.50am on Sunday. Raymond, nicknamed Brown, was taken to hospital but died hours later.

One neighbour, who saw the shooting but was too terrified to be named, said: “He was begging, literally begging for his life. I didn’t dare look out my window in case they saw me. I heard them laughing and swearing at him, calling him a ‘b***h’. I heard them laughing afterwards as well.”

Raymond’s partner, who asked not to be named, said: “I’m terrified. They’re still out there and they’ve not been caught. I’ve been told how they were laughing, actually laughing after they beat him and shot him. How could anybody do something like that?”

Animals.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 22, 2011, 03:49:56 PM
Update on the story.

Video of beating in a Baltimore County McDonald's goes viral
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-viral-video-mcdonalds-20110422,0,4613709.story

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The attack occurred April 18 in the 6300 block of Kenwood Ave., in Rosedale, county police said. Police said a 14-year-old girl had been charged as a juvenile, while charges were pending against an 18-year-old woman. Police said the incident "remains under investigation and the state's attorney's office is reviewing the case."

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Police said the victim was a 22-year-old woman and said an update on her condition was not immediately available.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ballygrl on April 22, 2011, 04:06:33 PM
From the smoking gun, the guy who took the video posted this, it was screen capped before it was removed:

(http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/1fbgrabsizedforinside.jpg)

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/mcdonalds/mcdonalds-employee-filmed-brutal-beating-640128
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ballygrl on April 22, 2011, 04:13:08 PM
I have no idea if the victim was a female or male, I see the violence as more the issue, and what's someone going to do about it? we're at the point now that if this was a white female? Holder wouldn't do a damn thing about it, but if it's a transgendered person? hate crime charges would be filed, what's it going to take for hate crime charges to be filed if the victim is white? and when is crime going to be addressed in the black community?
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: LC EFA on April 22, 2011, 05:53:52 PM
You want to see violence in the black community - Take a trip through any number of Aboriginal communities here. Not only the remote area ones that are off-limits to non-residents.

We had to send the army in to try and restore some form of law and order.

Open inter-family and clan warfare - worse on "pay-day" , because they can drive out to the nearest town outside the liquor prohibition zone and stock up.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Janice on April 22, 2011, 06:19:03 PM
From the DailyMail.co.uk: (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1379691/Caught-camera-Shocking-moment-girl-beaten-point-seizure-McDonalds-staff-idly-watch-on.html)

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Hackett, who has worked at McDonald's in Rosedale since September 2009, claimed credit for the video on his Facebook account,
 which he has since taken down.

At one point the employee can be heard laughing hysterically at the violence in front of him.

This is the guy claiming she was a man. He is also the guy who warned the perps to escape before police arrived.:

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Throughout the attack, a man is filming and does not intervene. But when the victim appears to go into a seizure, he yells,
"She having a seizure, yo. … Police on their way. Y'all better get out of here."
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: redwhit on April 22, 2011, 06:23:23 PM
I have no idea if the victim was a female or male, I see the violence as more the issue, and what's someone going to do about it? we're at the point now that if this was a white female? Holder wouldn't do a damn thing about it, but if it's a transgendered person? hate crime charges would be filed, what's it going to take for hate crime charges to be filed if the victim is white? and when is crime going to be addressed in the black community?

The sad thing is that it really won't matter anymore.  The story of the creepy guy in the women's restroom, true or not, will become the story.

You do raise an excellent point and I would argue that we have a community with some members trying to maintain a separation, limiting the progress.  Sharpton, Jackson, et al. have done more damage to community and cohesion within both black and white communities in their short lifetimes than I think can be overcome in three.  

And to think, Jesse started out following Martin Luther King.  Unfortunately, King's message is basically gone, fully replaced with Jesse's money-making race wars.  
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ballygrl on April 22, 2011, 06:36:11 PM
The sad thing is that it really won't matter anymore.  The story of the creepy guy in the women's restroom, true or not, will become the story.

You do raise an excellent point and I would argue that we have a community with some members trying to maintain a separation, limiting the progress.  Sharpton, Jackson, et al. have done more damage to community and cohesion within both black and white communities in their short lifetimes than I think can be overcome in three.  

And to think, Jesse started out following Martin Luther King.  Unfortunately, King's message is basically gone, fully replaced with Jesse's money-making race wars.

Their livelihood depends on it hence self-serving reasons by keeping the gap wide, too bad there aren't enough blacks fed-up to counter their arguments.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: redwhit on April 22, 2011, 07:35:06 PM
Their livelihood depends on it hence self-serving reasons by keeping the gap wide, too bad there aren't enough blacks fed-up to counter their arguments.

Exactly and they manipulate their status within the community.  Not that they are the ONLY thing wrong but it's a really big one.

What's heartening is that we're seeing a few leaders come out that are identifying as Americans before anything else.  Until that becomes the norm, nothing really positive and permanent will happen I fear.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Gina on April 22, 2011, 08:38:13 PM
This incident has made me so mad.  **** them savages :bird:
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Thor on April 22, 2011, 08:50:20 PM
All the more reason to carry a gun and KNOW how to use it. **** them. Kill them where they stand!! (That goes for any kind of that type of violence.)
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Janice on April 23, 2011, 02:44:04 AM
You can express your indignation to corporate ears here:

http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/contact_us/other_topics/other_topics.html

Im giving them an earful, but meanwhile I'm waiting to see if McDonalds takes this serious or just passes it off with some stupid pc rhetoric as to whether or not I ever conduct business with them again.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: vesta111 on April 23, 2011, 05:18:34 AM
You can express your indignation to corporate ears here:

http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/contact_us/other_topics/other_topics.html

Im giving them an earful, but meanwhile I'm waiting to see if McDonalds takes this serious or just passes it off with some stupid pc rhetoric as to whether or not I ever conduct business with them again.

Devils Advocate HERE.

I understand why the men were reluctant to intervene in a CAT fight.   For a man to jump in and get himself in grave danger then be accused of groping the woman is a possibility.  Really what can a man do when the fur begins to fly in order to protect themselves.  How is a male to know if all of the woman will not turn on him???

It is not the employees job to break up fights at their work place, call the police yes but not man handle the customers. Had an employee tripped one of the woman and she fell breaking her leg, there would be a law suit against the store.  Their job is to serve food not to police the customers.   

Complicated world out there, it is at the point that a good Samaritan jumping into a dangerous situation with no training in how to handle the situation can face court by not only the Peps but the victim themselves.

From the video the assailants were fearless, bent on giving the victim a good shellacking.  They kept coming back to do more damage.   One of the girls was only 14 years old and it seems that only an old lady intervened and she was a customer.

If instead of 2 girls it had been 2 males beating up a woman then I can see the employees jumping in to help her.   However as the employees had no idea that the victim was not a female also, I believe they had no choice but to stand and watch and record the incident for the police.  A cops worse nighmare is to go up alone with no backup against 3 woman fighting and try to restore order.

These males were all young and I guess their momma taught them better then to get involved in that shit.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Chris_ on April 23, 2011, 07:27:37 AM
A senseless murder in St. Louis.  Apparently, punching somebody in the head is now a "game".

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The funeral for 72-year-old Hoang Nguyen was held at Resurrection of Our Lord Catholic Church in South City Thursday morning. Police say the Vietnamese immigrant is the victim of a deadly game called the ‘Knock Out’ game. City leaders are trying to get the word out.

St. Louis police and Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce are tweeting about it, they’re talking to community leaders about it, and city leaders are finding out this Knock Out game, where you attack and try to knock out someone vulnerable, may be happening more than they realized.

Hoang Nguyen’s death followed an incomprehensible crime in an alley near Spring and Chippewa. According to court documents, Nguyen was punched in his head, causing him to fall to the ground and smack his head against the pavement, allegedly by this man, 18-year-old Elex Levell Murphy, who has been charged with first-degree murder. Another male suspect started kicking Nguyen in the rib cage. And it says Murphy admitted it was part of the Knock Out game. Ward Alderwoman Jennifer Florida attended Nguyen’s funeral.
KSDK News (http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/255689/3/Police-and-St-Louis-Circuit-Attorney-promise-to-go-after-Knock-Out-players-)
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ballygrl on April 23, 2011, 08:54:53 AM
The person beaten up was transgendered, so now my question is this, when this person was just a white woman what group called for hate crime charges?

http://www.tmrzoo.com/2011/24106
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: redwhit on April 23, 2011, 11:01:14 AM
The person beaten up was transgendered, so now my question is this, when this person was just a white woman what group called for hate crime charges?

http://www.tmrzoo.com/2011/24106

Wow, legally this gets messier with each step.  This could, arguably, be classified under hate crimes legislation and it will be interesting to see what comes of this.

Regardless, even if it were a male in a female restroom, the beating is waaaaaaaaaaaaay out of line for the infraction.  The fact that some people think this is acceptable does not bode well for the future. 
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: BEG on April 23, 2011, 11:15:39 AM
The person beaten up was transgendered, so now my question is this, when this person was just a white woman what group called for hate crime charges?

http://www.tmrzoo.com/2011/24106

I haven't went to the link but what I read last night that the guy who recorded it (a McDonald's employee who was bragging on Twitter about it) was the one claiming that but the cops said the victim was a woman.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Evil_Conservative on April 23, 2011, 11:59:06 AM
The person beaten up was transgendered, so now my question is this, when this person was just a white woman what group called for hate crime charges?

http://www.tmrzoo.com/2011/24106

Trans-gendered or not... it was still a hate crime.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 23, 2011, 12:00:16 PM
The person beaten up was transgendered, so now my question is this, when this person was just a white woman what group called for hate crime charges?

http://www.tmrzoo.com/2011/24106

I am no fan of hate crime laws, but it should apply in this one for sure.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Rebel on April 23, 2011, 12:18:20 PM
Devils Advocate HERE.

I understand why the men were reluctant to intervene in a CAT fight.

Cat fight? What are you, ****ing blind?
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: vesta111 on April 23, 2011, 01:37:39 PM
Cat fight? What are you, ****ing blind?

Nope, CAT fight is a term in use to discribe woman who get in a fight.  I believe it comes from the expression that is safer to try to separate cats fighting then to get between two angry woman. 
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ballygrl on April 23, 2011, 01:55:55 PM
Wow, legally this gets messier with each step.  This could, arguably, be classified under hate crimes legislation and it will be interesting to see what comes of this.

Regardless, even if it were a male in a female restroom, the beating is waaaaaaaaaaaaay out of line for the infraction.  The fact that some people think this is acceptable does not bode well for the future. 

I think the beating is horrible no matter what sex the person is, my point though is this, you have the LGBT community speaking up about this now because the person is trans-gendered, but who was speaking out when they thought the perrson being beaten up was just a white woman?
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ballygrl on April 23, 2011, 01:57:18 PM
Trans-gendered or not... it was still a hate crime.

Exactly! but would Eric Holder recognize that?
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ballygrl on April 23, 2011, 01:59:03 PM
I am no fan of hate crime laws, but it should apply in this one for sure.

I have no problem if it applies here either but I have a problem that hate crime laws exclude straight white men and women.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 23, 2011, 02:01:13 PM
I think the beating is horrible no matter what sex the person is, my point though is this, you have the LGBT community speaking up about this now because the person is trans-gendered, but who was speaking out when they thought the perrson being beaten up was just a white woman?

If you're JUST white, you don't count anymore. You have to be a member of some special group.

...and a cat fight is when 2 or more women sling there arms around, pull out hunks of hair and pull off clothes. What happened there is a beat down.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: DefiantSix on April 23, 2011, 02:05:10 PM
I have no idea if the victim was a female or male, I see the violence as more the issue, and what's someone going to do about it? we're at the point now that if this was a white female? Holder wouldn't do a damn thing about it, but if it's a transgendered person? hate crime charges would be filed, what's it going to take for hate crime charges to be filed if the victim is white? and when is crime going to be addressed in the black community?

First: the Supreme Court has upheld repeatedly that the police department is not responsible for the safety or protection of any single individual in the community.  Fine, I say: operate under that assumption, and carry accordingly.  When violence breaks out in front of you, you've seen plenty of examples of it expanding beyond the original combatants to include assaults on bystanders, so there's your "in fear for my life" justification for deadly force, in most jurisdictions.

Second:  your question about how we bring it to a close reminds me of the Golda Meir quote:  "We will have peace when they love their children more than they hate us."  The black community has been primed for this violence by being told for 4 generations or more that the white man is the source of all their problems. If we respond to the violence in the manner outlined above, eventually we will either get to the point where the thugs get the point that it's dangerous to be a thug, or they - the thugs - will become extinct as a sub-set of the species.  Either way, peace is restored.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Rebel on April 23, 2011, 06:21:12 PM
Nope, CAT fight is a term in use to discribe woman who get in a fight.  I believe it comes from the expression that is safer to try to separate cats fighting then to get between two angry woman. 

Wrong. A cat fight is where women start clawing and slapping at each other. These two thugs were kicking this person. That wasn't a cat fight, that was a malicious beating.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ballygrl on April 23, 2011, 07:50:47 PM
First: the Supreme Court has upheld repeatedly that the police department is not responsible for the safety or protection of any single individual in the community.  Fine, I say: operate under that assumption, and carry accordingly.  When violence breaks out in front of you, you've seen plenty of examples of it expanding beyond the original combatants to include assaults on bystanders, so there's your "in fear for my life" justification for deadly force, in most jurisdictions.

I would love to carry, but it's a nightmare to get a license in NJ, you need a freaking gun license to own a BB Gun. We had a guy in the next County over who was kidnapped, turned out the kidnappers kidnapped the wrong guy, he was able to escape, well he applied for a license to openly carry a gun and he was denied.

Second:  your question about how we bring it to a close reminds me of the Golda Meir quote:  "We will have peace when they love their children more than they hate us."  The black community has been primed for this violence by being told for 4 generations or more that the white man is the source of all their problems. If we respond to the violence in the manner outlined above, eventually we will either get to the point where the thugs get the point that it's dangerous to be a thug, or they - the thugs - will become extinct as a sub-set of the species.  Either way, peace is restored.

1 of the benefits of law abiding citizens being allowed to freely own a gun, a criminal won't chance it.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Evil_Conservative on April 23, 2011, 08:43:19 PM
Nope, CAT fight is a term in use to discribe woman who get in a fight.  I believe it comes from the expression that is safer to try to separate cats fighting then to get between two angry woman. 

Vesta, that was NOT a cat fight.  You want to see a cat fight, head out to any bar around closing time.  Cat fight is just a few slaps and hair pulling.  NOT stomping on a face, dragging outside, and throwing someone into a seizure.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Janice on April 23, 2011, 10:38:31 PM
These animals beat the woman almost to death and transgender is the issue?

What if the victim had been black as well, would all those wonderful employees (still employed minus one btw) just watch?

Not to worry though, the two black girls have nothing to fear. Eric Holder will see to that.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Chris_ on April 24, 2011, 12:55:19 PM
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Victim of Brutal McDonald’s Beating Speaks Out: “Everybody at That McDonalds Sat & Watched Them Beat Me”

The fast-food chain has issued a statement about the safety of its customers being paramount, and Rosedale franchise owner Mitchell McPherson yesterday announced that employee Vernon Hackett had been fired.

Mr McPherson added that action might also be taken against other restaurant workers

While the incident remains under investigation, local police told the Baltimore Sun they were looking into whether or not there was racist motivation.

State's Attorney Scott D. Shellenberger said hate crime charges were being considered.
UK Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1379691/Transgender-girl-beaten-seizure-McDonalds-attack-victim-hate-crime.html)

So they fired him.  It's the least they could do.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: BEG on April 24, 2011, 02:20:32 PM
I watched a video on the blaze from the victim. It was a transgender person. It doesn't change my position at all. The two women who did this are animals and the "men" who stood by and watched are just as guilty.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Janice on April 24, 2011, 02:57:15 PM
I watched a video on the blaze from the victim. It was a transgender person. It doesn't change my position at all. The two women who did this are animals and the "men" who stood by and watched are just as guilty.

That is my position as well. I told McDonalds that too.

http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/contact_us/other_topics/other_topics.html
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ballygrl on April 24, 2011, 05:31:33 PM
I watched a video on the blaze from the victim. It was a transgender person. It doesn't change my position at all. The two women who did this are animals and the "men" who stood by and watched are just as guilty.

ITA! My gripe now is the outrage coming from the left, where were they the whole day that story was running, when it was just a white woman? seems to me it was posted on DU after rumors started that the person was transgender. Oh and of course I'm still asking when the black community is going to stand up to the thugs including elected blacks and say enough?
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: redwhit on April 25, 2011, 08:49:14 AM
ITA! My gripe now is the outrage coming from the left, where were they the whole day that story was running, when it was just a white woman? seems to me it was posted on DU after rumors started that the person was transgender. Oh and of course I'm still asking when the black community is going to stand up to the thugs including elected blacks and say enough?

You're still using common sense, not Marxist theory.  White women are part of the oppressor structure, barely  step down from white males.  This high up on the power scale, the action of the aggressors was just "acting out," or truth to power or some other damn thing.

Transgendered are oppressed and need the protection of the state.  Whites don't.  That's the whole mindset.  Wonder what Marx would think of this?  I think he'd be appalled.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: bijou on April 25, 2011, 10:21:12 AM
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APRIL 25--The Baltimore woman charged last week with the brutal beating of a McDonald’s patron was arrested last year for assaulting a female patron following a dispute in the same restaurant, The Smoking Gun has learned.

Teonna Monae Brown, 18, was charged with two assault counts for allegedly attacking Danielle Dower, 38, last July. In October, a Baltimore County judge ruled that charges would not be further pursued against Brown, according to court records, which do not further detail that “nolle prosequi” decision.

In a handwritten police statement, Dower said that she had left the McDonald’s with her two daughters when Brown confronted her, asking “Did you call me ugly?” Though Dower said she had not, Brown “kept trying to badger us.” At one point, Dower said, the teenager “pushed me in the back.” After Dower pushed back, Brown “took her fist and threw a punch to my face.”  ...
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/mcdonalds-attacker-prior-bust-908732
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Chris_ on April 25, 2011, 10:22:40 AM
Keepin' it real. :whatever:
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 25, 2011, 10:39:56 AM
You know something, it might not be to much longer until the mostly white liberal part of the country understands why the south had Jim Crow laws.... :lmao:....and it's gonna be funny as all get out when they start passing Jim Crow laws.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Evil_Conservative on April 25, 2011, 10:40:46 AM
What a lovely girl to hang around with...
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: vesta111 on April 25, 2011, 10:50:04 AM
You're still using common sense, not Marxist theory.  White women are part of the oppressor structure, barely  step down from white males.  This high up on the power scale, the action of the aggressors was just "acting out," or truth to power or some other damn thing.

Transgendered are oppressed and need the protection of the state.  Whites don't.  That's the whole mindset.  Wonder what Marx would think of this?  I think he'd be appalled.

Whoe Nellie, where is the girls side of this free for all.   Was this racially motovated or simple outrage at what ever the trans was doing in the bathroom????

Why and what would stur up two young woman to attack this MAN in womans clothing ??

One girl was heard to yell, "OH, that is discusting"   No young girl should walk into a womans rest room and find a Male in there doing something disgusting.    I do not care if the man is dressed like the Queen of England had the girls been 12 or younger and beat him up, who is to say how the story would have gone.

I disagree this is raciest because the attackers were young black woman beating up a Man in the ladys room.  

 Had it been two white woman beating up a black man in the ladys room, who would have cared.

Everyone has jumped on the bandwaggon that because the girls were black and the man white.   No one knows why they were were up set yet, give us time before putting this down to raciests, Fear or revultion.

For you guys out there, say you take your 14 year old  daughter to eat somewhere, she goes to the restroom and comes out screaming and is followed by a drag queen, is there any question you would not punch out their lights first then ask questions later??

 I want to hear the girls side before I decide on why their actions were due to a black on white crime. :fuelfire:

Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 25, 2011, 10:57:02 AM
Whoe Nellie, where is the girls side of this free for all.   Was this racially motovated or simple outrage at what ever the trans was doing in the bathroom????

Why and what would stur up two young woman to attack this MAN in womans clothing ??

One girl was heard to yell, "OH, that is discusting"   No young girl should walk into a womans rest room and find a Male in there doing something disgusting.    I do not care if the man is dressed like the Queen of England had the girls been 12 or younger and beat him up, who is to say how the story would have gone.

I disagree this is raciest because the attackers were young black woman beating up a Man in the ladys room.  

 Had it been two white woman beating up a black man in the ladys room, who would have cared.

Everyone has jumped on the bandwaggon that because the girls were black and the man white.   No one knows why they were were up set yet, give us time before putting this down to raciests, Fear or revultion.

For you guys out there, say you take your 14 year old  daughter to eat somewhere, she goes to the restroom and comes out screaming and is followed by a drag queen, is there any question you would not punch out their lights first then ask questions later??

 I want to hear the girls side before I decide on why their actions were due to a black on white crime. :fuelfire:



From one article I read yesterday, the transexual never got to the bathroom. The fight started before she got there.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Rebel on April 25, 2011, 11:00:33 AM
I disagree this is raciest because the attackers were young black woman beating up a Man in the ladys room.  

 Had it been two white woman beating up a black man in the ladys room, who would have cared.

Yeah, because we're all racists.  :bird:

I think we f'n cared when the black conservative was beated by SEIU thugs.

Don't pretend to know what others are thinking, Vesta. It'll help you look less stupid.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: DLR Pyro on April 25, 2011, 11:28:35 AM
Whoe Nellie, where is the girls side of this free for all.   Was this racially motovated or simple outrage at what ever the trans was doing in the bathroom????

Why and what would stur up two young woman to attack this MAN in womans clothing ??

One girl was heard to yell, "OH, that is discusting"   No young girl should walk into a womans rest room and find a Male in there doing something disgusting.    I do not care if the man is dressed like the Queen of England had the girls been 12 or younger and beat him up, who is to say how the story would have gone.

I disagree this is raciest because the attackers were young black woman beating up a Man in the ladys room.  

 Had it been two white woman beating up a black man in the ladys room, who would have cared.

Everyone has jumped on the bandwaggon that because the girls were black and the man white.   No one knows why they were were up set yet, give us time before putting this down to raciests, Fear or revultion.

For you guys out there, say you take your 14 year old  daughter to eat somewhere, she goes to the restroom and comes out screaming and is followed by a drag queen, is there any question you would not punch out their lights first then ask questions later??

 I want to hear the girls side before I decide on why their actions were due to a black on white crime. :fuelfire:



Since you are being so "open minded" about the 2 poor girls who insitgated the attack, are you also willing to listen to the views of the LGBT community about this incident?  For years they have been trying to force their "lifestyle choices" down our throats and this incident creates quite the quandry with the left who is so eager to run to the defense of minorities and people from the LGBT community when ever they are the victims of an assault.  It will be interesting to see how the left plays this hand.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Gina on April 25, 2011, 12:02:47 PM
Whoe Nellie, where is the girls side of this free for all.   Was this racially motovated or simple outrage at what ever the trans was doing in the bathroom????

Why and what would stur up two young woman to attack this MAN in womans clothing ??

One girl was heard to yell, "OH, that is discusting"   No young girl should walk into a womans rest room and find a Male in there doing something disgusting.    I do not care if the man is dressed like the Queen of England had the girls been 12 or younger and beat him up, who is to say how the story would have gone.

I disagree this is raciest because the attackers were young black woman beating up a Man in the ladys room.  

 Had it been two white woman beating up a black man in the ladys room, who would have cared.

Everyone has jumped on the bandwaggon that because the girls were black and the man white.   No one knows why they were were up set yet, give us time before putting this down to raciests, Fear or revultion.

For you guys out there, say you take your 14 year old  daughter to eat somewhere, she goes to the restroom and comes out screaming and is followed by a drag queen, is there any question you would not punch out their lights first then ask questions later??

 I want to hear the girls side before I decide on why their actions were due to a black on white crime. :fuelfire:



you are a pure dumbass through and through
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: vesta111 on April 25, 2011, 12:52:37 PM
Yeah, because we're all racists.  :bird:

I think we f'n cared when the black conservative was beated by SEIU thugs.

Don't pretend to know what others are thinking, Vesta. It'll help you look less stupid.

Reb if you are speaking of the gentleman selling pins, flags and bumper stickers at the rally in Madison, I saw no signs of race, the thugs would have attacked him if he were an Eskimo. These are the same people that cuss out little girls and old woman and men.  That is why we call them THUGS, BULLYS and Assholes.

I am speaking of young girls that go to a restroom, open the door and find a Man in woman's clothing doing something disgusting and cussing at them.   Where does race come in here, where is the homophobic or hate crime here???  

Sorry I see so far no race issue or any reason to attack the Man if he was just going about his business.  He HAD to be doing something to cause the girls to go off to the extent they did.  

Tell the truth if I walked in on that I would have ,if the Man was doing something disgusting, hit him between the running lights with my cane and perhaps if I had a 6 year old grand daughter with me given him a few more wallops just to keep him on the ground.

I do not care what race a pervert is, black, white, yellow or pink, this is about fearing for the safety of the kids in public restrooms. One of the girls is only 14 years old, she is a child that went nuts over what she saw   we have to ask why???

I watched the interview with the Man all dressed up in woman's clothing, damn he came across as a sweet young lass, a victim because he has this thing between his legs. She looked so sweet, so how did they know she was a HE if he did not have his stuff out doing something with it?????

So to put it bluntly Rebel, If people want to run about believing they are of a different sex, or born on Mars, that is their right, but when it comes to being in public in an area that can scare the shit out of children--
they have to expect to be stigmatised and all that comes after it.  

Everything today is blamed on race or homophobia,    Bull shit, Darn it all Rebel there are any number of crimes that have absolutely nothing to do with those two things.

Do I feel sorry for the Man beaten this side to Wendsday, Hell no, I feel sorry for the young girls that to have cause to beat the living daylights out of him.       So far that is, I must wait to hear their side of the story before I can firmly side with eather side.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Rebel on April 25, 2011, 12:58:42 PM
Hey, shortbus, you said this:

Quote
Had it been two white woman beating up a black man in the ladys room, who would have cared.


...and offered absolutely NO Damn proof to back it up. If you think we'd sit idly by and watch a black woman or man get senselessly beat by two white people and stomped and kicked while on the ground, then you're an idiot. You're essentially calling us racists without morals.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Gina on April 25, 2011, 01:02:52 PM
Reb if you are speaking of the gentleman selling pins, flags and bumper stickers at the rally in Madison, I saw no signs of race, the thugs would have attacked him if he were an Eskimo. These are the same people that cuss out little girls and old woman and men.  That is why we call them THUGS, BULLYS and Assholes.

I am speaking of young girls that go to a restroom, open the door and find a Man in woman's clothing doing something disgusting and cussing at them.   Where does race come in here, where is the homophobic or hate crime here???  

Sorry I see so far no race issue or any reason to attack the Man if he was just going about his business.  He HAD to be doing something to cause the girls to go off to the extent they did.  

Tell the truth if I walked in on that I would have ,if the Man was doing something disgusting, hit him between the running lights with my cane and perhaps if I had a 6 year old grand daughter with me given him a few more wallops just to keep him on the ground.

I do not care what race a pervert is, black, white, yellow or pink, this is about fearing for the safety of the kids in public restrooms. One of the girls is only 14 years old, she is a child that went nuts over what she saw   we have to ask why???

I watched the interview with the Man all dressed up in woman's clothing, damn he came across as a sweet young lass, a victim because he has this thing between his legs. She looked so sweet, so how did they know she was a HE if he did not have his stuff out doing something with it?????

So to put it bluntly Rebel, If people want to run about believing they are of a different sex, or born on Mars, that is their right, but when it comes to being in public in an area that can scare the shit out of children--
they have to expect to be stigmatised and all that comes after it.  

Everything today is blamed on race or homophobia,    Bull shit, Darn it all Rebel there are any number of crimes that have absolutely nothing to do with those two things.

Do I feel sorry for the Man beaten this side to Wendsday, Hell no, I feel sorry for the young girls that to have cause to beat the living daylights out of him.       So far that is, I must wait to hear their side of the story before I can firmly side with eather side.

disgusting, vesta, really. :(
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: CG6468 on April 25, 2011, 01:14:18 PM
disgusting, vesta, really. :(

Particularly since no details are really confirmed yet.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: redwhit on April 25, 2011, 02:08:36 PM
Whoe Nellie, where is the girls side of this free for all.   Was this racially motovated or simple outrage at what ever the trans was doing in the bathroom????

Why and what would stur up two young woman to attack this MAN in womans clothing ??

One girl was heard to yell, "OH, that is discusting"   No young girl should walk into a womans rest room and find a Male in there doing something disgusting.    I do not care if the man is dressed like the Queen of England had the girls been 12 or younger and beat him up, who is to say how the story would have gone.

I disagree this is raciest because the attackers were young black woman beating up a Man in the ladys room.  

 Had it been two white woman beating up a black man in the ladys room, who would have cared.

Everyone has jumped on the bandwaggon that because the girls were black and the man white.   No one knows why they were were up set yet, give us time before putting this down to raciests, Fear or revultion.

For you guys out there, say you take your 14 year old  daughter to eat somewhere, she goes to the restroom and comes out screaming and is followed by a drag queen, is there any question you would not punch out their lights first then ask questions later??

 I want to hear the girls side before I decide on why their actions were due to a black on white crime. :fuelfire:



Whoa nellie is right - I didn't say a damn word about the girl's motivation, only about the motivation behind the people who were silent until it came out that the person beaten was trnsgendered.

But it was really nice of you to come along and dump multiple paragraphs about something I never even said talking about I don't know what yet still being able to mention drag queens in passing.

(http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h452/hoganson11/funny-pictures-intervention-cat-keeps-you-from-drinking.jpg)
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 25, 2011, 02:37:32 PM
Whoe Nellie, where is the girls side of this free for all.   Was this racially motovated or simple outrage at what ever the trans was doing in the bathroom????

Why and what would stur up two young woman to attack this MAN in womans clothing ??

One girl was heard to yell, "OH, that is discusting"   No young girl should walk into a womans rest room and find a Male in there doing something disgusting.    I do not care if the man is dressed like the Queen of England had the girls been 12 or younger and beat him up, who is to say how the story would have gone.

I disagree this is raciest because the attackers were young black woman beating up a Man in the ladys room. 

 Had it been two white woman beating up a black man in the ladys room, who would have cared.

Everyone has jumped on the bandwaggon that because the girls were black and the man white.   No one knows why they were were up set yet, give us time before putting this down to raciests, Fear or revultion.

For you guys out there, say you take your 14 year old  daughter to eat somewhere, she goes to the restroom and comes out screaming and is followed by a drag queen, is there any question you would not punch out their lights first then ask questions later??

 I want to hear the girls side before I decide on why their actions were due to a black on white crime. :fuelfire:



:chill:
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Boudicca on April 25, 2011, 03:10:39 PM
Wow, legally this gets messier with each step.  This could, arguably, be classified under hate crimes legislation and it will be interesting to see what comes of this.

Regardless, even if it were a male in a female restroom, the beating is waaaaaaaaaaaaay out of line for the infraction.  The fact that some people think this is acceptable does not bode well for the future. 

Agree 100%.  Wonder how many of us can claim we've NEVER resorted to using the bathroom designated for the opposite sex if we've had an emergency.  I've been forced to use a men's room a time or two due to circumstances beyond my control.  And a ladies' room has stalls for everyone, so no one's child was going to be exposed to anything indecent.  There is no excuse or mitigation for the cruelty shown to this poor person.
Vesta, again, wtf, this wasn't a cat fight. :p
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: CG6468 on April 25, 2011, 03:15:28 PM
This was a racist attack, pure and simple.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Boudicca on April 25, 2011, 03:17:25 PM
All the more reason to carry a gun and KNOW how to use it. **** them. Kill them where they stand!! (That goes for any kind of that type of violence.)

Amen to that! :hi5:
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: vesta111 on April 25, 2011, 04:18:30 PM
disgusting, vesta, really. :(

OH Gina, have you heard the girls side of the story ????

Why is everyone wanting to believe this is a race issue.????

The girls went wayyyyyy over board in the trouncing of that Male,   I refuse to call him a MISS or woman simply because he is not, he is not Napoleon, born on Mars or what ever he wants to be, he is a he, born a he male and nothing even the surgeons scalpel can change that. He can pretend to be a woman or a toad, but he is still what he is.

I have no problem with people that believe they are a different sex, that really is no ones business but their own.   However, when in public and encountering children or people that may be homophobic, they need to know that some people in society who do not know them personally may become afraid , disgusted or violent toward them.
 
I am old school Gena, too damn old for all this PC and the do not offend others shit.   At my age I stick up for the youth that are encountering these people that believe they are other then what their body say they are.  

 I am too old to to accept the new day thinking, people are people and as long as they do scare others or do harm, let them be.   When these different people go nuts and harm others, then we have to ask ourselves  whose fault is it, theirs or the fault of others that knew the person was a time bomb.

However if MY 14 year old child with her older sister encountered a woman with a dick in a restroom, I do not think she would just shrug and ignore the cussing from them.    How would she know this man was not armed with a knife or gun, some of these HE/SHE are very dangerous, same as any man found in a Lady's room.

It's my generation my Dear, I can accept Lot's of life styles as long as they are not a threat to my grandchildren.

Girls have to know how to fight in today's world------------Mother told me Lady's do not fight---This has led to many a rape and murder by strangers that prayed on them.   Problem is they are not taught how to fight, when to fight and when to stop.

Generational thing I believe, the changes in the last 40 years have left me all so confused.  Far as the innercity Blacks, they are no different from the poor White folk that have to fight to survive.

This is culture from when the welfare rules broke up Black and White family's, turned generations into live on the system, dont get married, no responcibility to a woman  and your children.        

I have gone all around the barn on this jumped from one thing to another, however I still see no race problem or gay hate problem here.  
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Gina on April 25, 2011, 04:22:10 PM
I hope you do know vesta that self defense is one thing and just pummeling someone to the point of seizure is another.  And my name is spelled Gina.  You  got it right for the first time in that post then came back to spelling it wrong again.  Spell it right please or I will be forced to refer to you as vulva. :tongue:
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 25, 2011, 05:13:49 PM
OH Gina, have you heard the girls side of the story ????

Why is everyone wanting to believe this is a race issue.????

The girls went wayyyyyy over board in the trouncing of that Male,   I refuse to call him a MISS or woman simply because he is not, he is not Napoleon, born on Mars or what ever he wants to be, he is a he, born a he male and nothing even the surgeons scalpel can change that. He can pretend to be a woman or a toad, but he is still what he is.

I have no problem with people that believe they are a different sex, that really is no ones business but their own.   However, when in public and encountering children or people that may be homophobic, they need to know that some people in society who do not know them personally may become afraid , disgusted or violent toward them.
 
I am old school Gena, too damn old for all this PC and the do not offend others shit.   At my age I stick up for the youth that are encountering these people that believe they are other then what their body say they are. 

 I am too old to to accept the new day thinking, people are people and as long as they do scare others or do harm, let them be.   When these different people go nuts and harm others, then we have to ask ourselves  whose fault is it, theirs or the fault of others that knew the person was a time bomb.

However if MY 14 year old child with her older sister encountered a woman with a dick in a restroom, I do not think she would just shrug and ignore the cussing from them.    How would she know this man was not armed with a knife or gun, some of these HE/SHE are very dangerous, same as any man found in a Lady's room.

It's my generation my Dear, I can accept Lot's of life styles as long as they are not a threat to my grandchildren.

Girls have to know how to fight in today's world------------Mother told me Lady's do not fight---This has led to many a rape and murder by strangers that prayed on them.   Problem is they are not taught how to fight, when to fight and when to stop.

Generational thing I believe, the changes in the last 40 years have left me all so confused.  Far as the innercity Blacks, they are no different from the poor White folk that have to fight to survive.

This is culture from when the welfare rules broke up Black and White family's, turned generations into live on the system, dont get married, no responcibility to a woman  and your children.         

I have gone all around the barn on this jumped from one thing to another, however I still see no race problem or gay hate problem here. 

Forgot your chill pill again? Here it is.
:chill: :chill:
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 25, 2011, 05:17:33 PM
Md. woman charged in transgender McDonald's fight
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_VIDEOTAPED_BEATING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-04-25-07-33-25
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A rally condemning the attack is set for 7 p.m. Monday outside the restaurant in Rosedale, Md.

'Everyone sat there and watched me get hurt': Victim of McDonald's beating speaks out as fast-food giant goes into damage control
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1379691/Transgender-girl-beaten-seizure-McDonalds-attack-victim-hate-crime.html
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She said of her attackers: 'They just seemed like they wanted to pick a fight that night.'

She said she was approached by one of the girls, who accused her of 'looking at my man'.

When Miss Polis insisted that she was not even aware of the girl's partner, the physical abuse began with the girl spitting in her face.

McDonald's Perp Was Busted There Before
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/mcdonalds-attacker-prior-bust-908732
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Teonna Monae Brown, 18, was charged with two assault counts for allegedly attacking Danielle Dower, 38, last July. In October, a Baltimore County judge ruled that charges would not be further pursued against Brown, according to court records, which do not further explain that “nolle prosequi” decision.

According this link at bottom, Dower is Black.
http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showthread.php?p=7391029

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Hmm, Ms. Dower accused Brown of pulling her daughter across the floor by her hair.

 A traffic violation for a Danielle Dower born in 1973 and living in Rosedale lists her race as black. Assuming this is correct and is the same person as the complaintant, Ms. Brown may be an equal opportunity thug.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: vesta111 on April 25, 2011, 05:22:26 PM
I hope you do know vesta that self defense is one thing and just pummeling someone to the point of seizure is another.  And my name is spelled Gina.  You  got it right for the first time in that post then came back to spelling it wrong again.  Spell it right please or I will be forced to refer to you as vulva. :tongue:


Gina you are at the top of the people that have called me by allot of  names.   Fester, Fiesta's, Vetta, but you are the first to call me Vulva.

Actually I would love to head out to a Banquit and introduce myself as Vulva and watch the faces of those I am speaking to.  

Governor Jones I am Mister Holes wife, I gave $50,000 to your champagne, my name is Vulva.
 Darn what a hoot.

Ah the possibilities to cause mayham with that name, I could run for Mayor,  Vote for the Vulva Hole.  

 Gina You do get my sense of humor going, we may disagree on some or even all things but I do like your style. You are one classy bitch, I am so glad to know you.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: whiffleball on April 25, 2011, 05:47:55 PM
Oh, those poor young girls!  Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit!

One of those poor little things has been arrested before for her violent nature.  In a few years the 14 yo will probably be arrested again.

The black community needs to get its shit together.  There's no reason to bitch and moan about high incarceration rates when your culture celebrates violent music, admires thugs, mocks self discipline and improvement and listens to "leaders" who continually beat the entitlement/blame/no personal responsibility drum.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: redwhit on April 25, 2011, 08:38:49 PM
And, to be completely honest, after seeing that beat-down, I'm not particularly interested in the attacker's point of view.  I can't think of anything that requires THAT kind of a reaction.

There are police, there are courts, there are other avenues.  Do these systems work perfectly? Of course not.

Maybe we should carve out a chunk of land and whoever wants to live like an animal can get sent there.  I've got a list.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Rebel on April 25, 2011, 08:41:48 PM
OH Gina, have you heard the girls side of the story ????

I SAW the girls story, you dumbass! All 3.5 minutes of it. They beat her/him, doesn't f'n MATTER, senselessly and then, when they left him/her they came BACK! Then, left again, then came back and tried to drag him/her outside. What the **** do you think they were going to do with her/him outside?

Are you really this ****ing obtuse?
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Habsfan on April 25, 2011, 08:48:03 PM
I was listening to live audio feeds this weekend and police scanners were reporting lots of McDonalds/fast foods brawls. One of them mentioned a group of young black females. What is up with them? What is their problem???

Young lady? Don't you know how to behave yourself?
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Evil_Conservative on April 25, 2011, 09:32:26 PM
you are a pure dumbass through and through

I love you.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Evil_Conservative on April 25, 2011, 09:33:51 PM
Agree 100%.  Wonder how many of us can claim we've NEVER resorted to using the bathroom designated for the opposite sex if we've had an emergency.  I've been forced to use a men's room a time or two due to circumstances beyond my control.  And a ladies' room has stalls for everyone, so no one's child was going to be exposed to anything indecent.  There is no excuse or mitigation for the cruelty shown to this poor person.
Vesta, again, wtf, this wasn't a cat fight. :p

I've used the men's bathroom a few times in the past because the line for the ladies room was way too long.  No one ever beat the shit out of me.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Habsfan on April 25, 2011, 09:42:59 PM
I've used the men's bathroom a few times in the past because the line for the ladies room was way too long.  No one ever beat the shit out of me.
I just hated sending my son to the men's washroom by himself.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ballygrl on April 25, 2011, 09:59:39 PM
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/stabbing-at-national-zoo-042511

Teen Stabbed at National Zoo During African American Family Day

By WISDOM MARTIN/myfoxdc

WASHINGTON - It started out as just another day at the National Zoo, with a packed crowd of parents and young people cashing in on the last few hours of spring break.

"Everything was fine, walking around. I was getting ready to leave," said visitor Vince Robertson.
Then just after 3 p.m., chaos and confusion when a fight broke out near the concession area.

-Continued at the link-




Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: DefiantSix on April 25, 2011, 10:02:53 PM
I just hated sending my son to the men's washroom by himself.

You should see me when MY son has to use the facilities:  I stand there against the wall like his own personal protective detail, watching everyone and everything that comes in or out of that room.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: dandi on April 26, 2011, 09:12:06 AM
OH Gina, have you heard the girls side of the story ????

Vesta, I am going to say something that I think you may have heard quite a bit during your life:  Sweetheart, shut up, you are embarrassing yourself and everyone around you.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Gina on April 26, 2011, 09:46:56 AM
Vesta, I am going to say something that I think you may have heard quite a bit during your life:  Sweetheart, shut up, you are embarrassing yourself and everyone around you.

(http://www.wtfisupwithmylovelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/funny-pictures-hamsters-are-embarrassed.jpg)
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: dandi on April 26, 2011, 12:18:42 PM
(http://www.wtfisupwithmylovelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/funny-pictures-hamsters-are-embarrassed.jpg)

 :lmao:
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: vesta111 on April 26, 2011, 01:53:17 PM
:lmao:

OK<OK<  you all have to understand that I am now living in a very safe part of the country.   

Even when we were traveling about we never saw anything like what is going on today.   I never felt threatened in any way around any segment of society.

Once the kids went out on their own 20 some on years ago, I have had limited contact with the youth and the changes in what is acceptable behavior in today's world.

I have been looking at this incident through the eyes of 3 generations ago,  My generation, that of my children and their children.   The limited contact with racists were with those a generation before me and I just put it down to ignorance.   

When it comes to homophobia, I am at a loss at what to think, I was in my 30's when I actually met some one that was an open gay.    The in the closet people I met were nice people, they did not march in drag in parades, fact is there were no gay parades then, they just lived quiet lives and I would never known they were gay had they not told me.

I get all so uneasy when there is a problem with differences in religion, color or even sex.

  I guess I fell between the cracks in society, some how I was never  taught to hate and fear, the schools at the time failed to teach me to consider myself better then others.    My Church failed to teach me that my faith was the only valid Christion faith, they failed to teach me that JOOOOOs , Catholics and Methodists were evil.

I guess I was just too stupid to understand what they wished to teach me.   Then to cap it all out I went against my society by teaching my 4 kiddies to think as I did---------------They in turn taught their own children and they will teach their children.

OH Crap, I have destroyed future generations from the satisfaction of feeling superior, from moving into a White only condominium complex.  With luck, the kids will settle down and listen to their family, Church and friends.   They will not have to know the joy of knowing those different from them.  With luck they will grow up to never have the problems and fun life I and their parents had.  They will fit in and go far in life as long as the learn to hate and fear those different from them.

Too much Future Shock for me.     Sorry if I offend any of you, I am trying to get up to speed on things that are happening that are beyond anything I have ever seen in my life.    What the Hell is happening to civilisation all over the earth.??    Science and technology are making huge strides progressing. Civilisation is regressing.



   
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: redwhit on April 26, 2011, 03:45:35 PM
(http://www.wtfisupwithmylovelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/funny-pictures-hamsters-are-embarrassed.jpg)

That pic seems to come up a lot when discussing Vesta  :-)  :-)  :-)

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,58360.msg672225.html#msg672225
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Gina on April 26, 2011, 04:53:19 PM
 :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:  I googled vesta111 and that is the first thing that popped up  :lmao:
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Boudicca on April 26, 2011, 07:00:33 PM
Wrong. A cat fight is where women start clawing and slapping at each other. These two thugs were kicking this person. That wasn't a cat fight, that was a malicious beating.

Cat fights are kinda amusing, in retrospect, having been in a few myself. :-)  I somehow think the victim here will NEVER laugh at the memories later in her life. :whatever:
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Boudicca on April 26, 2011, 07:15:45 PM
Oh, those poor young girls!  Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit!

One of those poor little things has been arrested before for her violent nature.  In a few years the 14 yo will probably be arrested again.

The black community needs to get its shit together.  There's no reason to bitch and moan about high incarceration rates when your culture celebrates violent music, admires thugs, mocks self discipline and improvement and listens to "leaders" who continually beat the entitlement/blame/no personal responsibility drum.


There is a REASON the incarceration rate amongst the minority communities is sky high.  It isn't poverty, because I grew up dirt poor, but was taught the difference between right and wrong.  I HATE, HATE, HATE skin color being employed as a pass for every ****up someone makes.  It's belittling to those who make it, regardless of ethnicity, to suggest that their fellow "skinmates" couldn't make it without governmental intervention.
The demise of the American family has contributed to downgrading the standards of society in general, and in no better example (for the worst) than in the black community.  I hope to hell the Demoncrats are well satisfied with their evil work, to have brought an entire community to its knees for the sake of VOTES.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 26, 2011, 07:28:35 PM
There is a REASON the incarceration rate amongst the minority communities is sky high.  It isn't poverty, because I grew up dirt poor, but was taught the difference between right and wrong.  I HATE, HATE, HATE skin color being employed as a pass for every ****up someone makes.  It's belittling to those who make it, regardless of ethnicity, to suggest that their fellow "skinmates" couldn't make it without governmental intervention.
The demise of the American family has contributed to downgrading the standards of society in general, and in no better example (for the worst) than in the black community.  I hope to hell the Demoncrats are well satisfied with their evil work, to have brought an entire community to its knees for the sake of VOTES.

Exactly! Many people who come from poverty come out fine. It is a culture that promotes this mentality we see in Black community.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Boudicca on April 26, 2011, 07:59:44 PM
I just hated sending my son to the men's washroom by himself.

And no reasonable woman is going to begrudge a woman bringing in her prepubescent son to the ladies' restroom.  We have STALLS, where it's quite possible for anyone to do their bidness without anyone getting so much as a gander at any private parts.
I took my son with me into the women's bathroom until he was at least eight if his dad wasn't available for the job which was hard to do when he was deployed.  Even then I'd plant my ass in front of the men's room and ask every guy who exited if he'd noticed a young boy and how was he doing....
Maybe I was overprotective, but my boy had a time limit of two minutes, unless he notified me he needed time to "sit". :rotf:
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Boudicca on April 26, 2011, 08:01:01 PM
I've used the men's bathroom a few times in the past because the line for the ladies room was way too long.  No one ever beat the shit out of me.

Me either.
Thank God we never tangled with some ho ho's on drugs.  Or whatever their problem was.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Rebel on April 26, 2011, 09:17:15 PM
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlR70SMA4tw[/youtube]


****ing animals that should be in cages. Democrats should be proud. People with any sense, of ALL races, get the hell out and into the suburbs. This is in Augusta-Richmond County. There's a reason I live in Columbia County in Evans.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ballygrl on April 26, 2011, 09:33:11 PM
Disgusting video, this is what the black community needs to address.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Thor on April 26, 2011, 09:35:49 PM
Disgusting video, this is what the black community needs to address.

They won't.....
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Rebel on April 26, 2011, 09:46:43 PM
Disgusting video, this is what the black community needs to address.

They come to this area (Al, Jesse, etc.) to protest a confederate flag being flown above a confederate memorial on the SC Statehouse grounds. They don't give a **** about the status of blacks or poverty. They're boycotting Columbia and SC in general.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Boudicca on April 26, 2011, 09:52:23 PM
They come to this area (Al, Jesse, etc.) to protest a confederate flag being flown above a confederate memorial on the SC Statehouse grounds. They don't give a **** about the status of blacks or poverty. They're boycotting Columbia and SC in general.

AFAIK those wankers are boycotting Arizona as well, not that WE care.  Sheriff Joe Arpaio, America's best lawman, did offer to house them in his "pink" tent city.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ballygrl on April 26, 2011, 10:26:31 PM
I know they won't address it but at least other communities are waking up. I read an article in USA Today, the reporter is black and was a staunch Obama supporter, he's disappointed in Obama because of how high unemployment in the black community is, the reporter is a fool but the comments were awesome, people calling the black community out, people talking about LBJ and his great society. If the fear of speaking out because people are afraid of being called racist could just be ignored it can go a long way.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Gina on April 27, 2011, 08:44:32 AM
Cat fights are kinda amusing, in retrospect, having been in a few myself. :-)  I somehow think the victim here will NEVER laugh at the memories later in her life. :whatever:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hom45Km9TLQ&playnext=1&list=PL499A8853BE2D94AC[/youtube]
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Gina on April 27, 2011, 08:51:14 AM
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlR70SMA4tw[/youtube]


****ing animals that should be in cages. Democrats should be proud. People with any sense, of ALL races, get the hell out and into the suburbs. This is in Augusta-Richmond County. There's a reason I live in Columbia County in Evans.

how ****ing embarrassing for a race of people to have members act like that........and did you see the lowlife bring the baby out into the fight to watch?  :censored:  ****ing savages
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: redwhit on April 27, 2011, 09:10:36 AM
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:  I googled vesta111 and that is the first thing that popped up  :lmao:

That' the funniest damn thing I've heard today!   :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: dandi on April 27, 2011, 09:12:12 AM
how ****ing embarrassing for a race of people to have members act like that........and did you see the lowlife bring the baby out into the fight to watch?  :censored:  ****ing savages

America's own "palestinians".
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: vesta111 on April 27, 2011, 09:28:16 AM
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlR70SMA4tw[/youtube]


****ing animals that should be in cages. Democrats should be proud. People with any sense, of ALL races, get the hell out and into the suburbs. This is in Augusta-Richmond County. There's a reason I live in Columbia County in Evans.

Rebel, I take my thoughts back a few years ago when the WWF was on TV and traveled about the country.  Men and woman from all walks of life, all races and religions gathered with their young children to watch the Bimbos fight in the ring.

Both sexes enjoyed the weekly shows of buxom blonds and gorgeous woman of all races duked it out for the entertainment of the masses. Seems every one had a favorite Male wrestler but the big draw was the woman.

Most of us knew this was all staged and rehearsed ahead of time, but who gave a damn, it was like theater where the play ended differently in each show.

How this acting out can be blamed on any one race is beyond me.  If the blame is to be placed on race, then it was the White Comunity that were their biggest fans.

Once entertainment becomes exceptable to bring children to watch or allow them to watch on TV, then it will spread into the comunity of all races and religions.

Hell the kids are just doing what they have seen on TV that is considered perfectally good entertainment for family's to watch once a week.

The difference between Boxing and the WWF is  that men train for and go at each other, check out the camera views of a tournament match, few children are there.

WWF has shots of little kids standing ring side, dozens of them waiting for the chance to shake the hand of the their hero. All excited with home made signs to urge their favorite on.    

Fighting for entertainment that is acceptable to adults  is going to be followed by the youngsters.

I have to agree with a Judge that refuses cameras in the courtroom, people act for the cameras. No camera, short fight.

Just my 2 cents, this fight would have lasted but a minute of less had the antagonists not known they were being filmed.

Your turn to rebut me.

Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: NHSparky on April 27, 2011, 09:29:56 AM
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If the blame is to be placed on race, then it was the White Comunity that were their biggest fans.


WTF?  How so?  Explain this point if you can.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: CG6468 on April 27, 2011, 10:00:04 AM
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If the blame is to be placed on race, then it was the White Comunity that were their biggest fans.

Huh?

The only people - and I use the term with caution - who watch this shit are Blacks. Whites are not flocking to see these fights.

Where on earth did you come up with this bullshit?

 ::)  :???:  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Evil_Conservative on April 27, 2011, 10:32:20 AM
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If the blame is to be placed on race, then it was the White Comunity that were their biggest fans.

Uh-huh.  It's the white man's fault that those girls love to beat the shit out of each other and others who did NOTHING to deserve a beat down.

Don't you need to be stupid somewhere else?
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Eupher on April 27, 2011, 10:50:01 AM
Rebel, I take my thoughts back a few years ago when the WWF was on TV and traveled about the country.  Men and woman from all walks of life, all races and religions gathered with their young children to watch the Bimbos fight in the ring.

blah, blah, blah....

Vesta, what in the hell are you talking about?

You're equating pro wrestling with people acting IRL like savages?

 :mental: :mental: :mental: :mental: :mental: :mental: :mental: :mental:
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 27, 2011, 10:52:58 AM
Rebel, I take my thoughts back a few years ago when the WWF was on TV and traveled about the country.  Men and woman from all walks of life, all races and religions gathered with their young children to watch the Bimbos fight in the ring.

Both sexes enjoyed the weekly shows of buxom blonds and gorgeous woman of all races duked it out for the entertainment of the masses. Seems every one had a favorite Male wrestler but the big draw was the woman.

Most of us knew this was all staged and rehearsed ahead of time, but who gave a damn, it was like theater where the play ended differently in each show.

How this acting out can be blamed on any one race is beyond me.  If the blame is to be placed on race, then it was the White Comunity that were their biggest fans.

Once entertainment becomes exceptable to bring children to watch or allow them to watch on TV, then it will spread into the comunity of all races and religions.

Hell the kids are just doing what they have seen on TV that is considered perfectally good entertainment for family's to watch once a week.

The difference between Boxing and the WWF is  that men train for and go at each other, check out the camera views of a tournament match, few children are there.

WWF has shots of little kids standing ring side, dozens of them waiting for the chance to shake the hand of the their hero. All excited with home made signs to urge their favorite on.     

Fighting for entertainment that is acceptable to adults  is going to be followed by the youngsters.

I have to agree with a Judge that refuses cameras in the courtroom, people act for the cameras. No camera, short fight.

Just my 2 cents, this fight would have lasted but a minute of less had the antagonists not known they were being filmed.

Your turn to rebut me.



Take your chill pills.
:chill: :chill: :chill: :chill: :chill:
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: vesta111 on April 27, 2011, 11:59:35 AM
Huh?

The only people - and I use the term with caution - who watch this shit are Blacks. Whites are not flocking to see these fights.

Where on earth did you come up with this bullshit?

 ::)  :???:  :popcorn:

I went to a WWF show at the near by college arena as a guest of friends and it was an eye opener.

So I came home and BIL who lived with us at the time watched these shows on TV and was a big fan.  I began to watch with him to point out the reality of live vs televised fights and you know, in most city's, big ones, there were perhaps 90 % whites and just a scattering of other races.  At no time did I see a majority of any race except the white race.

Head South my Lads and see, really look at the audience and you will find very few black men jumping up and down as two white woman battle it out.  Very few Chinese, or black children pushing and shoving to get close to a White hero.

This stuff is White land, few professionals of any other race are welcome.  Blacks watch Boxing, a game that any race can get into, takes years of training and there is no or little interest in woman's boxing. Apologies to Clays daughter that tried to make that happen. Blacks watch football and basket ball, as do we all.

I cannot imagine most blacks going to see a bunch of Whites who are not really fighting just doing gymnastics and a given out come from the performance.

This is not a problem of race, it is a problem for all races to face, what their children are exposed to, much like drinking, smoking and booze.   Kids want to do as the adults do and is accepted for their age but not for them.

Kids emulate the elders and fight if they come from a background that they have seen violence in their homes every day.   Not just ONE race but all of them, some of the worse fights I have seen on You Tube involved White girls ganging up on another White girl.

At one time violence was taught to the children as a survival method, to have no compassion for the enemy that wanted their woman or the woman that wanted one man.  Who gets the most food, who gets the best breeding stock, all survival.

Somewhere down the line humans began to treat fighting as a spector sport, Say Rome,----- the Chinese today still engage in horse fighting, world wide people fight dogs, cats and and two Bulls after a cow in heat.

EXAMPLE you pay $100.00 A TICKET TO ATTEND A NASCAR RACE, the race went well, few problem and you come home and feel slightly cheated.   The Week before there had been a 15 car pile up, 3 cars on fire and one driver air lifted to the hospital. You had spent all that money just to watch a very boring race, no smash up, no off the seat spell binding moments.    

On the home front , Why put a child in harms way  But, millions of parents and grandparents go out to watch school sports, their family member besting an opposing team.??  Thy yell to their kids to " go get
them' while ignoring the fact that the kid can be harmed for life.

Humans NEED a reason to fight, when a government takes that away by supplying all their needs the people look for another way to fight--------------We are Humans and it is a survival trait.


 

Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Gina on April 27, 2011, 12:22:38 PM
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Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Eupher on April 27, 2011, 12:24:17 PM
Vesta?

Take your meds.

NOW.

Not after you've gotten your Nascar fix.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 27, 2011, 12:29:31 PM
I went to a WWF show at the near by college arena as a guest of friends and it was an eye opener.

So I came home and BIL who lived with us at the time watched these shows on TV and was a big fan.  I began to watch with him to point out the reality of live vs televised fights and you know, in most city's, big ones, there were perhaps 90 % whites and just a scattering of other races.  At no time did I see a majority of any race except the white race.

Head South my Lads and see, really look at the audience and you will find very few black men jumping up and down as two white woman battle it out.  Very few Chinese, or black children pushing and shoving to get close to a White hero.

This stuff is White land, few professionals of any other race are welcome.  Blacks watch Boxing, a game that any race can get into, takes years of training and there is no or little interest in woman's boxing. Apologies to Clays daughter that tried to make that happen. Blacks watch football and basket ball, as do we all.

I cannot imagine most blacks going to see a bunch of Whites who are not really fighting just doing gymnastics and a given out come from the performance.

This is not a problem of race, it is a problem for all races to face, what their children are exposed to, much like drinking, smoking and booze.   Kids want to do as the adults do and is accepted for their age but not for them.

Kids emulate the elders and fight if they come from a background that they have seen violence in their homes every day.   Not just ONE race but all of them, some of the worse fights I have seen on You Tube involved White girls ganging up on another White girl.

At one time violence was taught to the children as a survival method, to have no compassion for the enemy that wanted their woman or the woman that wanted one man.  Who gets the most food, who gets the best breeding stock, all survival.

Somewhere down the line humans began to treat fighting as a spector sport, Say Rome,----- the Chinese today still engage in horse fighting, world wide people fight dogs, cats and and two Bulls after a cow in heat.

EXAMPLE you pay $100.00 A TICKET TO ATTEND A NASCAR RACE, the race went well, few problem and you come home and feel slightly cheated.   The Week before there had been a 15 car pile up, 3 cars on fire and one driver air lifted to the hospital. You had spent all that money just to watch a very boring race, no smash up, no off the seat spell binding moments.    

On the home front , Why put a child in harms way  But, millions of parents and grandparents go out to watch school sports, their family member besting an opposing team.??  Thy yell to their kids to " go get
them' while ignoring the fact that the kid can be harmed for life.

Humans NEED a reason to fight, when a government takes that away by supplying all their needs the people look for another way to fight--------------We are Humans and it is a survival trait.


 


...uh....nawh....no use.

Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 27, 2011, 12:37:23 PM
Vesta?

Take your meds.

NOW.

Not after you've gotten your Nascar fix.

Look, I have been telling her to take her chill pills to no avail.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: NHSparky on April 27, 2011, 12:42:45 PM
I went to a WWF show

blah blah blah blah bullshit bullshit blah blah blah blah bullshit


We are Humans and it is a survival trait.





 :urmeds:

And I think I recognized you in a few of these clips...

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCZl7I9n4vU[/youtube]
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Rebel on April 27, 2011, 01:23:09 PM
Should we tell Vesta that Wrestling is fake?
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: CG6468 on April 27, 2011, 02:19:48 PM
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I went to a WWF show at the near by college arena as a guest of friends and it was an eye opener.

So I came home and BIL who lived with us at the time watched these shows on TV and was a big fan.  I began to watch with him to point out the reality of live vs televised fights and you know, in most city's, big ones, there were perhaps 90 % whites and just a scattering of other races.  At no time did I see a majority of any race except the white race

Attempting a comparison against WWF and uncivilized black bitches fighting the in the street is a stretch - even for you.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Evil_Conservative on April 27, 2011, 02:42:05 PM
Should we tell Vesta that Wrestling is fake?

Let's not.  It's more fun for us if she assumes WWF/WWE isn't scripted.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Eupher on April 27, 2011, 03:16:48 PM
I'm convinced that vesta is off her meds.

She's a fruit loop anyway, but today has been beyond the pale.  :o
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Evil_Conservative on April 27, 2011, 03:19:09 PM
I'm convinced that vesta is off her meds.

She's a fruit loop anyway, but today has been beyond the pale.  :o

I sometimes wonder what it's like to be Vesta.  Oh look a butterfly....
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Gina on April 27, 2011, 03:41:17 PM
I sometimes wonder what it's like to be Vesta.  Oh look a butterfly....

vesta is squirrelbait
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 27, 2011, 04:32:02 PM
Let's not.  It's more fun for us if she assumes WWF/WWE isn't scripted.

It doesn't take a stupid person to realize that WWE is scripted.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 27, 2011, 04:33:24 PM
I'm convinced that vesta is off her meds.

She's a fruit loop anyway, but today has been beyond the pale.  :o

I don't think meds are going to work on Vesta. Shes sounds like someone with Histrionic Personality Disorder.

Histrionic personality disorder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histrionic_personality_disorder
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Gina on April 27, 2011, 05:15:18 PM
It doesn't take a stupid person to realize that WWE is scripted.

Wait, you mean Jerry the King Lawler is not really a King?  :(
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: whiffleball on April 27, 2011, 05:51:37 PM
At no time did I see a majority of any race except the white race.

Head South my Lads and see, really look at the audience and you will find very few black men jumping up and down as two white woman battle it out.  Very few Chinese, or black children pushing and shoving to get close to a White hero.

This stuff is White land, few professionals of any other race are welcome.  Blacks watch

I cannot imagine most blacks going to see a bunch of Whites who are not really fighting just doing gymnastics and a given out come from the performance.

  Not just ONE race but all of them, some of the worse fights I have seen on You Tube involved White girls ganging up on another White girl.

What I read here was a bunch of white guilt tripping.  Point out the white people, point them out.  Don't dare to point out any other color.  This is the same shit one can read daily at the DUmp.

And the "head South" comment is the usual DUmbass generalization tripe.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Thor on April 27, 2011, 06:39:12 PM
I'm beginning to wonder what ethnic group Vesta belongs to with all of this "whitey is wrong" bullshit.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Gina on April 27, 2011, 06:42:46 PM
I'm beginning to wonder what ethnic group Vesta belongs to with all of this "whitey is wrong" bullshit.


I don't know but I found this pic

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_lG2az5ut9w0/SzISTGhTsqI/AAAAAAAAGFw/VLTOe4Tq_hE/s400/disgusting-delicacies01.jpg)

waiting on vesta to write us a book on her experience eating something gross
  :whistling:
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Evil_Conservative on April 27, 2011, 06:59:13 PM

I don't know but I found this pic

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_lG2az5ut9w0/SzISTGhTsqI/AAAAAAAAGFw/VLTOe4Tq_hE/s400/disgusting-delicacies01.jpg)

waiting on vesta to write us a book on her experience eating something gross
  :whistling:

Back in 1976.....
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Thor on April 27, 2011, 10:14:29 PM

I don't know but I found this pic

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_lG2az5ut9w0/SzISTGhTsqI/AAAAAAAAGFw/VLTOe4Tq_hE/s400/disgusting-delicacies01.jpg)

waiting on vesta to write us a book on her experience eating something gross
  :whistling:
Back in 1976.....

Probably more like '66....
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: vesta111 on April 28, 2011, 08:15:57 AM
:urmeds:

And I think I recognized you in a few of these clips...

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCZl7I9n4vU[/youtube]

I SEE ME, or my evil twin brother in the glass door incident.    Darn, I just hate visiting people that are so squeaky clean the windows disappear in their house.

It comes down to a choice when one has 4 little kids running about when it comes to sliding glass doors.  You can let them get dirty with puppy nose spots and baby hand prints, or keep them see through clean and put a few stickers on them so you and the kids don't boink your heads thinking they are open.  Helps with pets also, when dog chases cat and cat dashes for an open door way to find it is not open, then when one stops laughing do you do CPR on the cat.

Yup I have had some interesting encounters with glass doors not to mention stairs while wearing high heels, a few problems with escalators     -------------Living in the boonies has this effect on us who only ride an elevator when at the hospital.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Rebel on April 28, 2011, 08:34:14 AM
WTF?
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: whiffleball on April 28, 2011, 08:45:20 AM
I suppose that's some sort of idiotic "inscrutable" parable that makes the writer feel superior and smug.  It's doesn't matter how absolutely nonsensical it turns out to be since it's written primarily for the author.

Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Evil_Conservative on April 28, 2011, 01:15:01 PM
I SEE ME, or my evil twin brother in the glass door incident.    Darn, I just hate visiting people that are so squeaky clean the windows disappear in their house.

It comes down to a choice when one has 4 little kids running about when it comes to sliding glass doors.  You can let them get dirty with puppy nose spots and baby hand prints, or keep them see through clean and put a few stickers on them so you and the kids don't boink your heads thinking they are open.  Helps with pets also, when dog chases cat and cat dashes for an open door way to find it is not open, then when one stops laughing do you do CPR on the cat.

Yup I have had some interesting encounters with glass doors not to mention stairs while wearing high heels, a few problems with escalators     -------------Living in the boonies has this effect on us who only ride an elevator when at the hospital.

Interesting.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Gina on April 28, 2011, 02:10:59 PM
I SEE ME, or my evil twin brother in the glass door incident.    Darn, I just hate visiting people that are so squeaky clean the windows disappear in their house.

It comes down to a choice when one has 4 little kids running about when it comes to sliding glass doors.  You can let them get dirty with puppy nose spots and baby hand prints, or keep them see through clean and put a few stickers on them so you and the kids don't boink your heads thinking they are open.  Helps with pets also, when dog chases cat and cat dashes for an open door way to find it is not open, then when one stops laughing do you do CPR on the cat.

Yup I have had some interesting encounters with glass doors not to mention stairs while wearing high heels, a few problems with escalators     -------------Living in the boonies has this effect on us who only ride an elevator when at the hospital.

vesta needs to speak to 6th grade and up at schools and before she comes out to speak to them the announcer needs to say "You are about to meet vesta, she did drugs......and hereeeeeee's VESTA!"

Let them see the effects of drug use in real time. :stoner:
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Thor on April 28, 2011, 07:56:07 PM

Yup I have had some interesting encounters with glass doors not to mention stairs while wearing high heels, a few problems with escalators     -------------Living in the boonies has this effect on us who only ride an elevator when at the hospital.

As we can well discern.......   One too many tumbles down the stairs/ escalators??

BTW, was that a "Mental Hospital"??  :fuelfire:
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: vesta111 on April 29, 2011, 01:32:29 AM
As we can well discern.......   One too many tumbles down the stairs/ escalators??

BTW, was that a "Mental Hospital"??  :fuelfire:

No one can read today, this was to  be sarcasm, a bite at the thinking of liberals --not mine by any means.
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Thor on April 29, 2011, 03:49:44 AM
No one can read today, this was to  be sarcasm, a bite at the thinking of liberals --not mine by any means.

No, you just can't write....  :hammer: :hammer: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Title: Re: Violence in the Black Community @ McDonalds (merged)
Post by: Gina on May 16, 2011, 05:27:48 PM
Wanted to update

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TOWSON, Md. - A Baltimore County grand jury has indicted two teens in a beating of a transgender woman at a McDonald's restaurant that was caught on video.

The indictment returned Monday charges Teonna Brown with assault and hate crime in the attack on Chrissy Lee Polis at the restaurant last month. She is also charged with assaulting a customer and a McDonald's employee who tried to intervene.

A 14-year-old girl is facing the same charges in juvenile court. Both are being held.

Read more: http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/maryland/hate-crime-charges-in-maryland-mcdonalds-beating-caught-on-video-051611#ixzz1MYaK1zn1