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Title: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: bijou on April 20, 2011, 11:45:33 AM
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It should come as a shock to very few that Italian restaurant chain Olive Garden does not employ chefs trained in the hills of Tuscany, but that is exactly why the American franchise is facing criticism.

A new marketing ploy advertised that the restaurant sent cooks to Italy to learn how to prepare authentic dishes. Now, a former employee is cooking up trouble by claiming that Olive Garden’s Tuscan cooking school in Chianti is merely a ploy to sell more breadsticks. ...
http://www.italymag.co.uk/italy/olive-garden/olive-garden-accused-lying-about-tuscan-trained-chefs

Chain restaurant does not employ Cordon Bleu chefs, amazing. :sarcasm:
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: thundley4 on April 20, 2011, 11:51:24 AM
It was just a typo in the ad copy.  It was meant to say that the chefs were sent to Tucson to learn proper microwaving techniques. 
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: Mike220 on April 20, 2011, 11:53:54 AM
Holy shit! Say it ain't so!
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: Eupher on April 20, 2011, 12:05:53 PM
It was just a typo in the ad copy.  It was meant to say that the chefs were sent to Tucson to learn proper microwaving techniques. 

Bingo! h5!

I ate once in an Olive Garden. Raunchy experience. Never again. Overpriced, overdone, and outta here. If I want Italian cooking from a chain, I'll go to Macaroni Grill.
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: DLR Pyro on April 20, 2011, 12:48:02 PM
http://www.italymag.co.uk/italy/olive-garden/olive-garden-accused-lying-about-tuscan-trained-chefs

Chain restaurant does not employ Cordon Bleu chefs, amazing. :sarcasm:
Hell, most chain restaurants in California do not employ legal US citizens as chefs.  I was in a Panda Express a few weeks ago and found it disheartening for the manager to call back to the cooking area for "fried rice, por favor,  Brocolli beef, por favor" and "gracias" when a new dish was delivered to the steam tables by a hispanic "chef". 
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: Chris_ on April 20, 2011, 01:45:57 PM
:bawl: My world is falling apart. :sad1:

I have never been to an Olive Garden.
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on April 20, 2011, 01:48:04 PM
:bawl: My world is falling apart. :sad1:

I have never been to an Olive Garden.

You're not missing anything.  The real Italian places are local joints.  I try to avoid the chains like the plague.  Except for beer.  :-)
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: Chris_ on April 20, 2011, 01:53:43 PM
I used to work for the company that owned OG, but the restaurant I was at had real chefs (not Tuscan).  We got a lot of pre-packaged spices and sauces from OG restaurants.
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on April 20, 2011, 01:56:45 PM
You're not missing anything.  The real Italian places are local joints.  I try to avoid the chains like the plague.  Except for beer.  :-)

What he said.  Olive Garden is just OK at best...on food quality, that is, before you factor in their prices.  I've only eaten at them a couple of times and in different cities, but I would have to give the service mixed reviews ranging from satisfactory generally to an instance of apparently-overstaffed-but-incredibly-unresponsive.
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: NHSparky on April 20, 2011, 02:01:40 PM
:bawl: My world is falling apart. :sad1:

I have never been to an Olive Garden.

Consider yourself lucky.  And frankly, if you're going to stoop to chain Italian, at least it's nice to know Carrabba's isn't horrible, but if you're going to a chain in the North End of Boston, you need to be shot.  You can throw a dead cat and hit a dozen places many times better than any chain, and that includes Macaroni Grill, Buca di Beppo, any of them.
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: Eupher on April 20, 2011, 04:17:43 PM
Consider yourself lucky.  And frankly, if you're going to stoop to chain Italian, at least it's nice to know Carrabba's isn't horrible, but if you're going to a chain in the North End of Boston, you need to be shot.  You can throw a dead cat and hit a dozen places many times better than any chain, and that includes Macaroni Grill, Buca di Beppo, any of them.

Is Polcari's in the North End still around? They were the rage in the mid-Seventies. Extremely expensive, but outtasight good.
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: NHSparky on April 20, 2011, 05:05:16 PM
Is Polcari's in the North End still around? They were the rage in the mid-Seventies. Extremely expensive, but outtasight good.

Indeed they are--Route 1, Saugus.  They've got a few of them.  My favorite in that area is actually Donatello's.

http://www.donatello-restaurant.com/
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: Thor on April 20, 2011, 10:46:20 PM
While my daughter & soon to be EX was in town, my daughter told me that they had enough Mexican or Tex-Mex food for a while. I took them to a quiet Italian place out in Pottsboro, TX called Napoli's. My daughter appreciated that I didn't take them to Olive Garden. The food was quite good and reasonable prices. The worst experience about the entire meal was going in because some asshole biker pulled up with open pipes, revving his engine and damned near deafening us. The exhaust noise was well above 120 dB.
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: AllosaursRus on April 21, 2011, 01:04:21 AM
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A new marketing ploy advertised that the restaurant sent cooks to Italy to learn how to prepare authentic dishes. Now, a former employee is cooking up trouble by claiming that Olive Garden’s Tuscan cooking school in Chianti is merely a ploy to sell more breadsticks. ...

Don't tell me, the ones complaining were O'bummer voters. right?

Good grief! Ya mean to tell me they might get sued for this shit? Time to put a bounty on lawyers! WE's don't need no stinkin' "Tort" reform!

How can anyone take advertising serious? Next thing ya know, they're gonna sue Betty White, or that disgusting Rosanne Bar!

Sheesh, this shit is unbelievable! We really have sunk to new levels, haven't we?
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: Karin on April 21, 2011, 09:31:37 AM
Incredibly, they just opened one here.  I say incredibly because we have such a large Italian several-generations-old population here.  Lots of old school mom&pop Italian restaurants.  It just wouldn't be right.  Won't be going. 
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: NHSparky on April 21, 2011, 09:47:51 AM
Karin--you want WRONG?  Times Square has an Olive Garden.  Literally a few minutes walk away are some of the best Italian restaurants in the United States, if not the world.

And yet there it is, and the idiot tourists flock to it.

Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: Eupher on April 21, 2011, 10:22:48 AM
Karin--you want WRONG?  Times Square has an Olive Garden.  Literally a few minutes walk away are some of the best Italian restaurants in the United States, if not the world.

And yet there it is, and the idiot tourists flock to it.



You wanna know what WRONG is?

Go to a German/American Volksfest sometime (the few that there are anymore). The damned Germans will run over each other getting to ICE-COLD Budweiser or Miller or Blatz or MGD or some shit IN THE CAN.

Sorry bastards are curious to the point of lunacy.
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: Chris_ on April 21, 2011, 10:24:17 AM
:rofl: :lmao:

I remember visiting Germany.  I couldn't imagine any of them asking for Budweiser.  Hell, even I won't drink it.
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: NHSparky on April 21, 2011, 11:12:29 AM
You wanna know what WRONG is?

Go to a German/American Volksfest sometime (the few that there are anymore). The damned Germans will run over each other getting to ICE-COLD Budweiser or Miller or Blatz or MGD or some shit IN THE CAN.

Sorry bastards are curious to the point of lunacy.

Dude, I can totally imagine some German taking a nice fat swig, spitting it out, staring at the can, then screaming:

"VE ****ING LOST TO PEOPLE WHO MADE ZEEEES PISS???"
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: Eupher on April 21, 2011, 12:20:37 PM
Dude, I can totally imagine some German taking a nice fat swig, spitting it out, staring at the can, then screaming:

"VE ****ING LOST TO PEOPLE WHO MADE ZEEEES PISS???"

That's the wrong part, Sparky.

They ****ing LOVE that horse piss. I shit you not. They think it's the best thing since the autobahn.
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: Thor on April 22, 2011, 06:21:31 AM
There's a German Festival at the end of the month in Muenster, TX.
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: Wineslob on April 25, 2011, 07:19:59 PM
Bingo! h5!

I ate once in an Olive Garden. Raunchy experience. Never again. Overpriced, overdone, and outta here. If I want Italian cooking from a chain, I'll go to Macaroni Grill.

Sorry Euph but Macaroni Grill (putrid "table wine"), though better than Olive Oil Garbage, is not good Italian.
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: Eupher on April 25, 2011, 08:38:48 PM
Sorry Euph but Macaroni Grill (putrid "table wine"), though better than Olive Oil Garbage, is not good Italian.

You'll note, WS, that I qualified my statement by saying "If I want Italian cooking from a chain...."

I've had great Italian in Italy. And I've had it elsewhere.

But sometimes I just don't want to plunk down $30 for a plate of really good veal scalloppini and would rather just get a decent hunk of peasant bread out of the oven, plunk it in the olive oil, and chow down on a harmless plate of roasted veggies or hell, even s'ghetti.

Of the chains, Macaroni Grill has been most consistent. I've rarely been disappointed, especially for the buck.

ETA: I don't drink wine, so the putrid table wine thing is beyond me.
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: Karin on April 27, 2011, 12:41:14 PM
Well, did you give him a bitchslap for that?   :-)

I think our O Garden opened because there's a Red Lobster right next door, and it's owned by the same corporation.  There can be huge freight savings and other advantages on the purchasing end.  We've got Fort Drum, too, so I imagine there's a market.  No offense to our fine men in uniform. 

I'll still go to the Mom&Pops instead. 

Budweiser--yech, won't drink it.  Hangover in a can. 

One of my husband's golf buddies just adores PBR.  For our outdoor wedding, we laid in quite a bit of it.  Well he didn't drink as much of it as his reputation suggested, so we were stuck with it.  It hung around in our fridge for ages.  That shit was vile. 
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: Eupher on April 27, 2011, 12:47:51 PM
Well, did you give him a bitchslap for that?   :-)

I think our O Garden opened because there's a Red Lobster right next door, and it's owned by the same corporation.  There can be huge freight savings and other advantages on the purchasing end.  We've got Fort Drum, too, so I imagine there's a market.  No offense to our fine men in uniform. 

I'll still go to the Mom&Pops instead. 

Budweiser--yech, won't drink it.  Hangover in a can. 

One of my husband's golf buddies just adores PBR.  For our outdoor wedding, we laid in quite a bit of it.  Well he didn't drink as much of it as his reputation suggested, so we were stuck with it.  It hung around in our fridge for ages.  That shit was vile. 

Naw, I figured leave well enough alone.  :-)
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: FreeBorn on April 27, 2011, 01:06:37 PM
:rofl: :lmao:

I remember visiting Germany.  I couldn't imagine any of them asking for Budweiser.  Hell, even I won't drink it.
This is the real deal right here-

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Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on April 27, 2011, 03:19:52 PM
I've often wondered how many companies employee small armies of grandmothers to bring us their mass-produced cans of soup and frozen dinners.
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: Gunny on April 29, 2011, 12:29:16 PM
Olive Garden isn't bad.  It's reasonably priced and very affordable and the food is good.  Actually all of the restaurants owned by Darden are pretty decent.  Olive Garden, Red Lobster, Smokey Bones and Bahama Breeze. 

I just don't go to Olive Garden hardly at all anymore because my wife and I like Carrabba's a lot better.  Nothing against the Olive Garden but Carrabba's is just the best Italian chain restaurant in my opinion.  They're a little more pricey but it's well worth it.  The food is freakin delicious.  We go there at least once a month.

I have a much younger friend of mine who I met at the range I go to.  Known him for a few years.  He's had every odd job imaginable.  One of the jobs he had was as a cook at the Olive Garden.  He said he was the only white person in the kitchen.  Everyone else was Mexican.  Apparantly they were very rude to him because he quit after 3 days. 
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on April 29, 2011, 01:54:49 PM
Olive Garden isn't bad... 

Jarhead status: CONFIRMED


 :-)   :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: NHSparky on April 29, 2011, 03:01:45 PM
Olive Garden isn't bad. 

This from a guy who likes "baboon's ass" and "horsecock sandwiches", not to mention S.O.S. and MRE's.

Nuff said.
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: Thor on April 29, 2011, 03:03:13 PM
Jarhead status: CONFIRMED


 :-)   :cheersmate:

                                  :lol:

Can Olive Garden really be called, "Italian"?? They pale in comparison to some of the Italian restaurants I've eaten at in San Diego (or what I can make myself)
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: NHSparky on April 29, 2011, 03:10:02 PM
                                  :lol:

Can Olive Garden really be called, "Italian"?? They pale in comparison to some of the Italian restaurants I've eaten at in San Diego (or what I can make myself)

You start mentioning food and San Diego, and my lower lip starts to quiver and a tear forms in the corner of my eye.

Ever try to explain Santana's to a person who thinks Velvetta cheese and flour tortillas make for good enchiladas?  Or the perfect dish of ceviche from Miguel's?

100 hole in the wall Mexican places in Point Loma you could swing and hit with a dead cat were better than the best of anything conceivable here.  Casa de Loma on Rosecrans.  Best enchiladas ever.  EVER.  And the submariner bar in the back.  Ah, good times.

Although I will say the average Italian place here puts SD stuff to shame, with the possible exception of Buca di Beppo.
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: Thor on April 29, 2011, 04:28:13 PM
You start mentioning food and San Diego, and my lower lip starts to quiver and a tear forms in the corner of my eye.

Ever try to explain Santana's to a person who thinks Velvetta cheese and flour tortillas make for good enchiladas?  Or the perfect dish of ceviche from Miguel's?

100 hole in the wall Mexican places in Point Loma you could swing and hit with a dead cat were better than the best of anything conceivable here.  Casa de Loma on Rosecrans.  Best enchiladas ever.  EVER.  And the submariner bar in the back.  Ah, good times.

Although I will say the average Italian place here puts SD stuff to shame, with the possible exception of Buca di Beppo.

Little Italy, on University Ave was one of my fav Italian places in San Diego. They had an anti-pasto salad that was awesome!! And Mexican places?? Even Roberto's (the drive through chain) was better than any place around here. El Indio was one of my fav Mexican places, but, you're right. There are so many Mexican places in San Diego that it's a tough call and they're ALL pretty good. There was one dine in Mexican place on El Cajon Blvd or University, I can't remember, but they had a live Mariachi band there and the food was as good as it gets. What I really miss are the street vendors with the tacos or fish tacos in Tijuana.
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: WARBOUND on April 29, 2011, 04:29:02 PM
Rofl   :thatsright:
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: blitzkrieg_17 on April 29, 2011, 08:08:30 PM
Dude, I can totally imagine some German taking a nice fat swig, spitting it out, staring at the can, then screaming:

"VE ****ING LOST TO PEOPLE WHO MADE ZEEEES PISS???"

 :lmao: :lmao: H5!

I actually hit the desk and choked on soda at that.
Title: Re: Olive Garden Accused Lying About Tuscan-trained Chefs
Post by: Wineslob on April 30, 2011, 10:06:14 AM
Jarhead status: CONFIRMED


 :-)   :cheersmate:


LMAO