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Want A Budget That Produces A Surplus By 2021 Without Cutting Services For The Poor/Middle-Class ??? Updated at 11:05 AM
Reps. Maxine Waters, Mazie Hirono (podium) and Raul Grijalva introducing
The People's Budget at the Capitol today
It's a budget that produces a surplus by 2021 without cutting services for the poor and middle-class. It thus provides a stark contrast with the recent proposal by Rep. Paul Ryan, and a left-flank to the principles outlined by President Obama.
Here's a general overview of The People's Budget:
Reduces unemployment—and thus the deficit—through extensive investment in infrastructure, clean energy, transportation and education;
Ends almost all the Bush tax cuts, creates new tax brackets for millionaires and new fees on Wall Street;
Full American military withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan, along with other reductions in military spending;
Ends subsidies for non-renewable energy;
Lowers health care costs through a public option and negotiating Rx payments with pharmaceutical companies;
Raises the taxable maximum on Social Security.
Link to Kos Diary here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/04/13/966702/-Introd ...
Full details can be read here (.pdf file): http://grijalva.house.gov/uploads/The%20CPC%20FY2012%20...
The Economic Policy Institute has a full analysis here: http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/the_peoples_budge...
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Reduces unemployment—and thus the deficit—through extensive investment in infrastructure, clean energy, transportation and education;
Didn't we already do that? TARP, TARP2, etc
Ends almost all the Bush tax cuts, creates new tax brackets for millionaires and new fees on Wall Street;
We knew tax the rich would be in there.
Full American military withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan, along with other reductions in military spending;
Good luck with that one.
Ends subsidies for non-renewable energy;
Ok maybe I could be convinced of that one as long as we don't take that same money and throw it away on Green projects.
Lowers health care costs through a public option and negotiating Rx payments with pharmaceutical companies;
Socialized medicine, check.
Raises the taxable maximum on Social Security.
I heard the rate is 90% over 106k. That combined with higher tax rates would mean that if you make over 106 then you will lose every dime over that and have to pay more on top of it.
Of course the DUmmies love it.
If the DUmmies ever get in power this country will be toast.
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I'm one of "The People" am I not? Then the governments budget should be like mine, spend less than you take in.
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I'm one of "The People" am I not? Then the governments budget should be like mine, spend less than you take in.
That is crazy enough to work.
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That sounds like the "Looters and Moochers Budget Plan."
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The People's Glorious Democratic Republic of Obamastan will bring all workers the glorious People's Budget.
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Reduces unemployment—and thus the deficit—through extensive investment in infrastructure, clean energy, transportation and education;
That is the new word from the left... "investment". Still translates to spending money we don't have. The easy solution here is to broaden the tax base. Something like 47 percent of the people in this country pay no fed income taxes. Give them some skin in the game. Betcha they won't be so eager to have the politicians spend money then. Hell... we tax unemployment benefits so why not welfare, medicaid, HUD, etc?
What was it Nancy Pelosi said the other day... the dems shouldn't make a counter budget because then they would be saying there is a problem? The dem pols in DC have lost touch with reality. I am reminded of the last days of Hitler's bunker in Berlin. They partied down cause they couldn't face the reality that the war was lost. Seems like the DC pols are doing the same thing.
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I am reminded of the last days of Hitler's bunker in Berlin. They partied down cause they couldn't face the reality that the war was lost. Seems like the DC pols are doing the same thing.
Yeah, issuing orders to long-lost units and the like. Pretty similar, and it's a good analogy. H5.
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Reduces unemployment—and thus the deficit—through extensive investment in infrastructure, clean energy, transportation and education;
Frankly sounds like wildly out-of-control spending on highway and high-speed rail pork, all of it paying Davis-Bacon Act wages, and more money down the rathole of immature and/or uneconomical 'Green' technology BS.
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Whenever you hear "investing in education" from a democrat, that means throwing money to the teacher's unions. Who in turn send some of that money back to the democrats.
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It's a budget that produces a surplus by 2021 without cutting services for the poor and middle-class.
Hey Rocky. Watch me pull a Rabbit out of my hat.
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DUmp Link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x899976)
There is another link to a thread about this from Friday afternoon. I heard only snippets about it. Some congressperson called the members of the Progressive Caucus "socialists." Then, the socialists got real mad about that.
Lurkers, why is socialist a dirty word? How come the congresscritter got all angry?
That thread contained this interesting post:
JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-15-11 06:47 PM
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37. During the last few days ...
I had one "very liberal" DU member tell me that Obama should use the DOJ to dig up dirt on members of Congress, and then use that to black mail them.
What a capital idea! Oh, I hope I wish I hope I wish.....
On that thread they're all gnashing their teeth. Despair and tears over people like Anthony Wiener and Henry Waxman voting no. Why oh Why???!!!!
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It's a budget that produces a surplus by 2021 without cutting services for the poor and middle-class.
The only kind of 'surplus' that POS is going to produce is a surplus of people on food stamps and other forms of welfare.
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This is what I was looking for. From TheHill.com (http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/156289-socialist-struck-from-record-in-debate-on-progressive-caucus-budget)
A House Republican agreed Friday to strike the word "socialist" from the record of the proceedings, a word he used to describe some unnamed members of the House for pursuing expanded government spending in the next decade.
During debate on a FY 2012 budget resolution from the Progressive Caucus, Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) warned that the United States is "at risk of insolvency and bankruptcy because the socialist members of this body choose to spend money that we do not have." Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) immediately objected to the use of the word "socialist" and asked for that word to be struck from the record.
Why so ashamed, Keith?