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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: korporal_krakrs on April 15, 2011, 03:32:24 PM
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This is old news really, but I just saw a post here about how Glenn Beck is "a communist" (stupid spam thread or something) and it reminded me of how I hate Glenn Beck. Actually, hate is a strong word, but I don't listen to him anymore and he irritates me. Here's why...
I liked Debra Medina for governor of Texas in the last governor's race. She got on Beck's radio program and she related the following to Beck's questions about 911 truthers...
1) She did not claim to be a truther
2) She said she thought there were probably "unanswered questions" about 911 (really a vague statement)
3) She said if she had a truther on her staff she wouldn't fire him/her because she doesn't believe in "thought police". As long as their beliefs didn't interfere with what she wanted them to do, they could believe whatever they wanted.
Beck went on to vilify her. Daily as I recall. Completely dismissed her. So I guess Glenn Beck, mister "I'm just asking questions", thinks it's ok to question the govt about wanting to kill seniors with the health care law, but NO QUESTIONS ABOUT 911! Question elected officials affiliation with the communist party, but NO QUESTIONS ABOUT 911!!! Question the govt about huge conspiracies involving many levels of govt cooperating with each other for the enslavement of the US population, but NO QUESTIONS ABOUT 911!!! You see what I'm getting at. Secondly, Debra Medina never even said she was a truther! Thirdly, Glenn Beck DOESN'T FREAKING LIVE IN TEXAS! What's he getting involved in the race for anyway?!?!
I think the word "hypocrite" is thrown around a lot. The attack usually doesn't make any sense, and when it does people are usually being "hypocritical" about something that most of us are guilty of also. But all that said, I totally think Glenn Beck is a hypocrite. So I don't listen to him anymore (and I used to LOVE Glenn Beck, got books autographed, went to his things, etc).
Anyway, just wondering if anyone else had thoughts on this.
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Your input is noted.
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Thanks for noting.
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You should be beaten like a baby seal for being this stupid.
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You're welcome.
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You should be beaten like a baby seal for being this stupid.
Wow. Why is that?
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What questions?
We already know who, what, when, where, why and how.
What question can you ask without straying into LIHOP/MIHOP?
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LIHOP/MIHOP?
I'm drawing a blank on the acronyms.
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I had to stop listening to Beck when he jumped off the religious diving board into the deep end of the stupid pool.
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I still listen to him on occassion, but have cut back a lot.
If I want to hear a sermon, I'll tune into the 700 club.
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LIHOP/MIHOP?
I'm drawing a blank on the acronyms.
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This thread has me puzzled, re the TX governor race. :???: Anyway, I watch him about 1/2 the time currently. Half, because I think he's repeating himself. Full time pre-2010 elections because we had to be a FORCE and be absolutely informed on everything the Marxist was doing.
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I don't know what questions she might be confused about, that's not my point. Point is she entertained that there might be a question on someone's mind, and mister ask questions about evil government dismissed her for it. I personally think she was a strong candidate for governor, and if that means I should be beaten like a baby seal for having a "stupid" opinion, so be it. Not that I don't appreciate the thoughtful dialog...
About what the Texas governor had to do with it- Debra Medina was a governor candidate that I liked, and Beck tore her down for what I considered completely hypocritical reasons. The post isn't about her, it's about Glenn Beck.
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This thread has me puzzled, re the TX governor race. :???: Anyway, I watch him about 1/2 the time currently. Half, because I think he's repeating himself. Full time pre-2010 elections because we had to be a FORCE and be absolutely informed on everything the Marxist was doing.
My take on it is that the OP liked Medina and she lost the race. Needs somebody to blame, and Beck was a convenient target.
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I don't know what questions she might be confused about, that's not my point. Point is she entertained that there might be a question on someone's mind, and mister ask questions about evil government dismissed her for it. I personally think she was a strong candidate for governor, and if that means I should be beaten like a baby seal for having a "stupid" opinion, so be it. Not that I don't appreciate the thoughtful dialog...
About what the Texas governor had to do with it- Debra Medina was a governor candidate that I liked, and Beck tore her down for what I considered completely hypocritical reasons. The post isn't about her, it's about Glenn Beck.
And you think that Beck is the sole reason she lost the race?
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My take on it is that the OP liked Medina and she lost the race. Needs somebody to blame, and Beck was a convenient target.
Pretty much my take-away but when people start howling, "What's wrong with asking questions?" my reflex, out of fairness, is to say, "What question?"
If the question turns out to be, "Why does Bush deny murdering 3,000 Americans?" then we'll proceed from there.
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Yes, but can you make it into an acronym?
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Yes, but can you make it into an acronym?
That's easy.
BSFA.
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Alright, y'all win. I think I've been very clear in this post, but y'all keep putting words in my mouth and it's just irritating at this point. I'll try one more time for fun, think of it as parting thoughts- Beck makes a living off of conspiracy when you boil it down. Medina, who I don't believe even buys in to the 911 conspiracies, got torn down by beck for perceived belief in said conspiracy. After he tore her down, enter next segment on beck's conspiracies. Hence, beck = hypocrite. End of story, Medina's loss is irrelevant, truthers aren't important, it's just beck and HE of all people coming down on people who believe in a conspiracy.
Beyond that, I'm not explaining where I'm coming from anymore. Or where I came from as the case may be. I'm tired of all the negative energy, word twisting, and the horrible language I keep seeing on this board. I was hoping for a board with thoughtful conservative dialog, not a conservative version of DU. See ya.
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Just cuz you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.
I don't listen to Beck for other reasons.
Yes, he rails against Soros...but Soros pushes a lot of money through back channels to mold US public opinion to his causes and he destabilizes entire economies.
That's not paranoia; that's public record.
Was Wilson a bag of ass? Yes, he was. That's history.
Do progressives want to destroy this nation. Absolutely, by their own declarations.
I don't need Beck to tell me what these people tell me in their own words.
The problem with troofers is many of them--like that idiot Ron Paul--want to be troofers without saying as much. This means they aren't crazy enough to sign onto "I claim Bush killed 3,00 Americans on 9/11!" but they do want to tear down Bush/the US/the GWoT with " I *wonder* if Bush killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11!" They don't have the balls to claim it directly but they want the doubt it engenders to hover over the politicians and policies they disapprove of.
Frankly, I find the whole cowardly bullshit as despicable as Holocaust denial, fake rape accusations and trumped-up daycare pedo hysteria.
Maybe this doesn't fit Medina but suffice it to say: if you have a question stop being a ****ing ***** and ask it, hear the evidence and carry on accordingly. But those who "only have questions" are never satisfied with the answers because it is never about truth it's only about shit-stirring doubt.
**** 'em
Was it only a Medina staffer? Fine. Would she keep a Holocaust denier or fake rape victim on staff wrapped in the mantle of free opinion?
If so: **** her
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Aw, shit. I missed a great opportunity. :banghead:
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Alright, y'all win. I think I've been very clear in this post, but y'all keep putting words in my mouth and it's just irritating at this point. I'll try one more time for fun, think of it as parting thoughts- Beck makes a living off of conspiracy when you boil it down. Medina, who I don't believe even buys in to the 911 conspiracies, got torn down by beck for perceived belief in said conspiracy. After he tore her down, enter next segment on beck's conspiracies. Hence, beck = hypocrite. End of story, Medina's loss is irrelevant, truthers aren't important, it's just beck and HE of all people coming down on people who believe in a conspiracy.
Beyond that, I'm not explaining where I'm coming from anymore. Or where I came from as the case may be. I'm tired of all the negative energy, word twisting, and the horrible language I keep seeing on this board. I was hoping for a board with thoughtful conservative dialog, not a conservative version of DU. See ya.
Is this exchange really about "winning?"
I'm not so sure. Looked more like sour grapes to me -- Medina lost, and the OP wasn't happy about it, so let's bash Beck because Beck bashed Medina because Medina made a vague bullshit statement about 9/11.
Sometimes politicians make vague bullshit statements about shit that cost them elections.
That's what happens in the Big Boy World.
If the OP has such thin skin on this issue, WTF is gonna happen when this thread winds up in the freakin' Fight Club and the gloves come off? :rotf:
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This is old news really, but I just saw a post here about how Glenn Beck is "a communist" (stupid spam thread or something) and it reminded me of how I hate Glenn Beck. Actually, hate is a strong word, but I don't listen to him anymore and he irritates me. Here's why...
I liked Debra Medina for governor of Texas in the last governor's race. She got on Beck's radio program and she related the following to Beck's questions about 911 truthers...
1) She did not claim to be a truther
2) She said she thought there were probably "unanswered questions" about 911 (really a vague statement)
3) She said if she had a truther on her staff she wouldn't fire him/her because she doesn't believe in "thought police". As long as their beliefs didn't interfere with what she wanted them to do, they could believe whatever they wanted.
Beck went on to vilify her. Daily as I recall. Completely dismissed her. So I guess Glenn Beck, mister "I'm just asking questions", thinks it's ok to question the govt about wanting to kill seniors with the health care law, but NO QUESTIONS ABOUT 911! Question elected officials affiliation with the communist party, but NO QUESTIONS ABOUT 911!!! Question the govt about huge conspiracies involving many levels of govt cooperating with each other for the enslavement of the US population, but NO QUESTIONS ABOUT 911!!! You see what I'm getting at. Secondly, Debra Medina never even said she was a truther! Thirdly, Glenn Beck DOESN'T FREAKING LIVE IN TEXAS! What's he getting involved in the race for anyway?!?!
I think the word "hypocrite" is thrown around a lot. The attack usually doesn't make any sense, and when it does people are usually being "hypocritical" about something that most of us are guilty of also. But all that said, I totally think Glenn Beck is a hypocrite. So I don't listen to him anymore (and I used to LOVE Glenn Beck, got books autographed, went to his things, etc).
Anyway, just wondering if anyone else had thoughts on this.
If she can't handle Glenn Beck, she can't handle the governor's office.
Glenn Beck is a political commentator. This is what he does. He did this before he interviewed your candidate. Were you not paying attention then?
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Alright, y'all win. I think I've been very clear in this post, but y'all keep putting words in my mouth and it's just irritating at this point. I'll try one more time for fun, think of it as parting thoughts- Beck makes a living off of conspiracy when you boil it down. Medina, who I don't believe even buys in to the 911 conspiracies, got torn down by beck for perceived belief in said conspiracy. After he tore her down, enter next segment on beck's conspiracies. Hence, beck = hypocrite. End of story, Medina's loss is irrelevant, truthers aren't important, it's just beck and HE of all people coming down on people who believe in a conspiracy.
Beyond that, I'm not explaining where I'm coming from anymore. Or where I came from as the case may be. I'm tired of all the negative energy, word twisting, and the horrible language I keep seeing on this board. I was hoping for a board with thoughtful conservative dialog, not a conservative version of DU. See ya.
buh bye.
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The only thing I remember about Medina (shows how much of a presence she had) was that all my Ronulan friends were gaga for her. Told me all I needed to know...
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I used to listen to him all the time right after 9/11 and love his pieces about 9/11, Vietnam, Reagan, Memorial Day etc. I don't know what happened to him but something changed because when I try to listen to him now he is like Hannity, just whiney and says the same thing over and over again. I do love Stu though.
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Alright, y'all win. I think I've been very clear in this post, but y'all keep putting words in my mouth and it's just irritating at this point. I'll try one more time for fun, think of it as parting thoughts- Beck makes a living off of conspiracy when you boil it down. Medina, who I don't believe even buys in to the 911 conspiracies, got torn down by beck for perceived belief in said conspiracy. After he tore her down, enter next segment on beck's conspiracies. Hence, beck = hypocrite. End of story, Medina's loss is irrelevant, truthers aren't important, it's just beck and HE of all people coming down on people who believe in a conspiracy.
Beyond that, I'm not explaining where I'm coming from anymore. Or where I came from as the case may be. I'm tired of all the negative energy, word twisting, and the horrible language I keep seeing on this board. I was hoping for a board with thoughtful conservative dialog, not a conservative version of DU. See ya.
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I heard that interview with Medina. She avoided and dodged every question put to her over this LIHOP/MIHOP 9/11 troother bullshit. She might as well have said yes I do believe in it. My Niece saw the plan hit the Pentagon and we have enough family members that are and were pilots to know the difference between a plane and a missile like some of the crackpots claim hit the Pentagon. Also my next oldest brother went to the FAA accident investigation school to learn how to find out what was the cause of an aircraft crash while he was in the Navy. His office was due to move back into the very wing of the Pentagon that was hit on 9/11. Sorry but there was no conspiracy going on.
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I've considered this.
I really enjoy Beck's radio show, but I couldn't watch his TV show. The reason I've come up with for this is that Beck's warnings are so frightening that I couldn't take it in his classroom-type TV format. His radio show, on the other hand, has some levity which allows me to breathe between the frightening facts.
Certainly, this shows a weak side in me; but 'em's the facts as I comes up with 'em.
Either way, thank God Beck's sharing his insight!
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Before you post anymore, may I direct you to the Introductions forum, sir? Tell us about yourself.
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I've considered this.
I really enjoy Beck's radio show, but I couldn't watch his TV show. The reason I've come up with for this is that Beck's warnings are so frightening that I couldn't take it in his classroom-type TV format. His radio show, on the other hand, has some levity which allows me to breathe between the frightening facts.
Certainly, this shows a weak side in me; but 'em's the facts as I comes up with 'em.
Either way, thank God Beck's sharing his insight!
Your faux applause rings hollow in my ears. :-)
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I just got tired of Beck, and the smarmy TV commercials only added to my frustrations.
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I'm not a Beck fan at all.
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I smell patchouli, gin and regret.....