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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on April 14, 2011, 12:02:27 PM
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-14-11 09:08 AM
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Prof authors an academic paper concluding Sarah Palin is probably Trig's grandmother, not mother.
Professor Bradford Scharlott of Northern Kentucky University has looked into this story in detail and written a long academic article about it. He concludes two things:
First, that the "conspiracy theory" is likely true--Sarah Palin staged a huge hoax, and, second,
The American media is pathetic for not pursuing the story more aggressively
Scharlott's article walks through all the evidence supporting the theory, including the photos of Palin in what is said to have been a late-stage pregnancy, the leisurely 20-hour trip home that Palin took after she supposedly went into labor in Texas, the refusal of the hospital where Trig was supposedly born to even confirm that he was born there (let alone who was the mother), strange statements from Palin's doctor and the McCain campaign, and so on.
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-14-11 09:09 AM
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1. I knew it.
eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-14-11 11:49 AM
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38. me too
SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-14-11 09:10 AM
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2. Republicon Family Values
as usual...
monmouth (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-14-11 09:14 AM
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4. And yet the President's birth certificate is their concern...sigh...n/t
At least Trig is a legally eligible...and smarter than your guy too.
monmouth (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-14-11 09:15 AM
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5. What happened to NE's story that Trig was Tawd's child by another
woman and Sarah decided this was the best way to solve the problem? Not a word...
yardwork (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-14-11 09:26 AM
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10. If there was a cover-up, then Palin used her position as governor to intimidate dozens of witnesses.
That's actually very important and something that the press ought to pursue because the implication is that the nation could have elected a VP who used her position as governor to intimidate.
We already know that Palin used her position as governor to get an Alaska state highway patrolman fired and smeared. She appears to have used her position as mayor of Wasilla to get her house build for free - and the media has ignored that as well.
I've always thought that Palin cut a deal with federal investigators and probably the Republican Party as well. She stepped down as governor and they stopped the investigations into her house construction and probably a lot of other forms of graft in which she and her husband were involved.
Loge23 (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-14-11 09:47 AM
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16. If the Press can't get this right....
No wonder we're in the shape we are in this country.
Ridiculously long expensive wars, The Tea Party, Bank fraud not only tolerated but rewarded, continued deterioration of the middle class - even as many in the Middle Class support the Republicans, blatant transfer of wealth to the upper 1% - as the uninformed scream "Socialism!!".
All of this and so much more and we (the country) can't figure out yet that Sarah Palin is a fraud. Go figure.
And then there's this:
pampango (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-14-11 09:57 AM
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17. For some this seems to be our version of the "birther" conspiracy theorists.
"Birthers" wasting their time on Obama's citizenship are not only useless, but their efforts are probably counterproductive when it comes to other conservatives trying to convince independents that Obama is wrong on policy grounds. "Birthers" tinge their whole movement with the scent of stupidity. It appeals to many of their already-committed supporters, but does nothing to attract others.
Similarly we have so much stuff to use on Palin in terms of her experience, knowledge and political beliefs that to spend any time on the issue of Trig's maternity seems at best useless and at worst counterproductive.
SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-14-11 11:09 AM
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29. Myth-spinners like her are ONLY vulnerable in a few areas. Motherhood is her weak spot
because it's what her rabid followers first loved about her.. It's her "hook"..
many of us KNOW she's a fake/fraud/grifter, but her fans love her & pay her lots of moolah because they overlook the stupidity.
The faked pregnancy was the ONLY way to shut her down , and it was possible at the beginning. The more time that elapsed, the more likely that she would get away with it..
Someday Bristol will write a "Mommy Dearest" & the facts will tumble out.
So it isn't so much about facts as it is about shutting down Palin. (Truth be told much of the birther movement is the same and those elements work against their own interests.)
fasttense (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-14-11 09:57 AM
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18. Show us the birth certificate.
What is Palin trying to hide? Why wont she produce the birth certificate?
She must be hiding something she doesn't want the public to know.
So, Bristol got knocked up twice. The 1st time Palin covered for her. The 2nd time there was no cover except for Levi pretending he was going to marry the promiscuous child.
And Palin represents some kind of family values?
SHOW US THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE PALIN! (sorry for screaming, I got carried away)
You first. Trig isn't trying to be CinC of the most powerful military in human history.
Javaman (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-14-11 11:31 AM
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32. It matters because half wit failin quitter ran with Family Values
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 11:32 AM by Javaman
as one of her base issues. And on top of that, her bizarre push for abstinence only education.
It would have shown that she 1) didn't practice what she preached and 2)she was a complete and utter bullshit artist.
That's why this did matter.
but because none of this was investigated, we now are treated with her semi-daily utterances of colossally stupid claptrap. Which, in turn, help spur on the ball licking tea partying halfwits.
She hasn't been in the press a lot lately and I'm grateful for that.
This will help that, I'm sure.
BTW - Palin rejects the birthers but what if she waves Trig's LFBC on national TV and says, "Here! You idiots!" what will Obama's defense be?
Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-14-11 11:37 AM
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33. Wait -- Trig was born 4/08; Tripp was born 12/08, right?
I don't think it's possible that Bristol had both unless they lied about Trig's birth date.
tammywammy (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-14-11 11:47 AM
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36. The people that are really into this
Do think they lied about Trig's birthday.
ecstatic (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-14-11 11:51 AM
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40. Irish twins?
With one born a little early?
:waisis:
jeff47 (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-14-11 12:05 PM
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45. It's covered in the story. It says they may have lied about Trig's birth date (nt)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x889394
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I think this is actually kind of good. The longer the moonbats and their press remain fixated on Sarah Palin, the less damage they're doing to Republicans who may mount a serious challenge to the Kenyan in 2012.
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:facepalm2:
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Here's the freak professor with too much time on his hands:
http://www.nku.edu/directory/display_bio.php?record=scharlott@nku.edu&overlay
More about him:
http://informatics.nku.edu/com/undergraduate/journalism/campprofiles.php
Dr. Scharlott plays tournament Scrabble. He has a personalized Scrabble board, once flew to Toronto to play in a tournament and claims to have vocabulary that could “stun an elephantâ€.
I hear he's single, ladies.
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Here's the freak professor with too much time on his hands:
http://www.nku.edu/directory/display_bio.php?record=scharlott@nku.edu&overlay
More about him:
http://informatics.nku.edu/com/undergraduate/journalism/campprofiles.php
I hear he's single, ladies.
Many DUmors are. (http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,57898.msg666243.html#msg666243) Too bad it doesn't necessarily equate to them keeping their stunted material out of the gene pool. :puke:
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Here's the freak professor with too much time on his hands:
http://www.nku.edu/directory/display_bio.php?record=scharlott@nku.edu&overlay
More about him:
http://informatics.nku.edu/com/undergraduate/journalism/campprofiles.php
I hear he's single, ladies.
Intelligence trickles into one ear . . . as common sense floods out the other. That's the way it ususally is with PhD-types.
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They can mock her intelligence all they want, but until Obama releases his transcripts, there's no reason to believe she didn't have the better GPA, since his Ivy League admission was essentially based on his race and ethnicity, not academics.
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They can mock her intelligence all they want, but until Obama releases his transcripts, there's no reason to believe she didn't have the better GPA, since his Ivy League admission was essentially based on his race and ethnicity, not academics.
From what he says and what he does, I would say that Obama has at best a 100 IQ.
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I'd go 120 tops. He reads well.
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I would love to see Sarah Palin now come out with a genetics test of Trig to pull the rug out from under these fools.
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I would love to see Sarah Palin now come out with a genetics test of Trig to pull the rug out from under these fools.
a long form birth cert would be even more damaging. It'd shut-up the DUmbasses and shine the spotlight on Obama's own deficiences.
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I'm sure Sarah and Trig have long form Birth Certificates and both are more qualified to be President then Obama in ways other than the BC issue!
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I'm sure Sarah and Trig have long form Birth Certificates and both are more qualified to be President then Obama in ways other than the BC issue!
I'm sure both of them could land a security clearance in a fraction of the time it would take O'Bummer to fabricate a back story sufficiently muddled that the FBI investigator couldn't disprove it and threw up his hands in frustration.
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I'm sure both of them could land a security clearance in a fraction of the time it would take O'Bummer to fabricate a back story sufficiently muddled that the FBI investigator couldn't disprove it and threw up his hands in frustration.
They only go back 7 years on elected officials, all the coke they packed up their Ivy League noses as students, young professionals, or 'Community organizers' doesn't matter. For the military or civil service, if you need a clearance higher than just 'Secret' (Which is used for everything even slightly sensitive anymore) but screwed the pooch even modestly when you were 16 and they find out about it when you apply at age 30, you are totally SOL.
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I'm sure Sarah and Trig have long form Birth Certificates and both are more qualified to be President then Obama in ways other than the BC issue!
Trig is developmentally disabled, which places him head and shoulders above Obama any day of the week.
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leanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr-14-11 06:24 PM
Original message (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x893463)
PROFESSOR: Sarah Palin Probably Staged A Gigantic Hoax About Being Trig's Mother
PROFESSOR: Sarah Palin Probably Staged A Gigantic Hoax About Being Trig's Mother
Professor Bradford Scharlott of Northern Kentucky University has looked into this story in detail and written a long academic article about it. He concludes two things:
First, that the "conspiracy theory" is likely true--Sarah Palin staged a huge hoax, and, second,
The American media is pathetic for not pursuing the story more aggressively
Scharlott's article walks through all the evidence supporting the theory, including the photos of Palin in what is said to have been a late-stage pregnancy, the leisurely 20-hour trip home that Palin took after she supposedly went into labor in Texas, the refusal of the hospital where Trig was supposedly born to even confirm that he was born there (let alone who was the mother), strange statements from Palin's doctor and the McCain campaign, and so on.
Well, I guess that means Trig can never run for President?? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) :mental: :mental:
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Well, I guess that means Trig can never run for President?? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) :mental: :mental:
Why not.
He's more qualified, more intelligent, and actually has a birth certificate.
We'll just have to wait another 33 years until he can become eligible.
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These assholes are unbelievable.
Take an easily disproven story, believe it, then spin ever greater tales around the lie then use those greater lies as a foundation for how vile and loathsome the subject must be to deserve the initiating lie.
Mariana (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-14-11 03:28 PM
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85. The flying while leaking story is just so far out there.
She wasn't just flying while leaking. She was flying while leaking, four or five weeks premature, she was over 40, with her fifth child, and with a known Down's syndrome child. That's a whole long list of complications and potential complications. Also, it's not like she got on the plane right after her water broke. According to her, it was 10 or so hours later.
NO ONE in their right mind would do that. So, she's either lying and made the story up to impress people (which is pretty crazy in itself, telling that particular story, but wouldn't surprise me), or she's not in her right mind.
uberblonde (941 posts) Thu Apr-14-11 04:22 PM
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99. Unless you consider another possibility.
Which is that she wanted her defective child to die. She might have starved herself during the pregnancy for the same reason. It's not unheard, especially with religious women who won't consider abortion.
crim son (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-14-11 06:23 PM
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124. That is not inconceivable.
Vile, but possible.
That cali, of all "people" should be the voice of reason:
cali (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-14-11 02:39 PM
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73. ****ing ridiculous. because someone writes a supposedly academic
paper, Palin is the child's grandmother. Unless the prof has DNA proof, it's just more stupid.
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cali (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-14-11 02:39 PM
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73. ****ing ridiculous. because someone writes a supposedly academic
paper, Palin is the child's grandmother. Unless the prof has DNA proof, it's just more stupid.
cali having a "blind squirrel" moment. :o
Damned frightening.
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the refusal of the hospital where Trig was supposedly born to even confirm that he was born there (let alone who was the mother)
The hospital does not have to give out this information.
Not sure about other hospitals, but our hospital had us give a password to family & friends. If they called the hospital with any questions pertaining me or Carleigh, they would have to give the password first. If they didn't, the caller received no information.
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The hospital does not have to give out this information.
Healthcare providers are EXTREMELY gun-shy of HIPAA violations, even for trivial violations there can be rather significant consequences, and nobody loves to sue more than American hospital patients.
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Yeah, not a good thread, DUmmies. Yeah, you were trying to be sarcastic, bit all this points out that it was your side that was first on the scene with ridiculous birth-related conspiracy theories.
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They only go back 7 years on elected officials, all the coke they packed up their Ivy League noses as students, young professionals, or 'Community organizers' doesn't matter. For the military or civil service, if you need a clearance higher than just 'Secret' (Which is used for everything even slightly sensitive anymore) but screwed the pooch even modestly when you were 16 and they find out about it when you apply at age 30, you are totally SOL.
Yep, and I think the Commander in Chief should be held to at least as high a standard as your average military person. One of the reasons I thought Clinton should have been drummed from office was how he skated through a scandal by lying about it, while the penalty for any given military officer would have been severe, to say the least.
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Did you know that this thread over there has been read 11,418 times? :mental: