svsuman23 (100 posts) Fri Apr-08-11 02:13 PM
Original message
I have one question?
What have the Democrats done since Oct. 2010 to get a budget done?
former9thward Donating Member (922 posts) Fri Apr-08-11 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #15
22. Budget proposals begin in the House.
Republicans could not block anything in the House last year. The House never passed a budget.
svsuman23 (106 posts) Fri Apr-08-11 02:19 PM
Response to Reply #4
11. thought the budget started in oct.
GKirk (509 posts) Fri Apr-08-11 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #11
18. Do you base that on Fox News? n/t
It's starting to get a little interesting;
Oh the Cheeto dust must be flying whilst the Alert Key is pressed!
svsuman23 (108 posts) Fri Apr-08-11 02:37 PM
Response to Original message
30. eems we have come to an agreement
That this is the house dems fault for not passing a budget.
Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-08-11 02:44 PM
Response to Reply #30
35. you can keep repeating this RW talking point over and over - it doesn't make it true
butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-08-11 02:47 PM
Response to Original message
39. After you answer this one for me..
"WHAT HAVE THE REPUBLICONS DONE TO CREATE JOBS!!!
The moderators must be smoking pot or something, missing all this.
There's two Republicans at that campfire.
Justitia (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-08-11 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #23
26. are you trying to say the House could pass the budget w/out the Senate?
I have only heard this argument in RW media.
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svsuman23 (111 posts) Fri Apr-08-11 02:33 PM
Response to Reply #26
28. , they can't.
But you have to pass one in the House first. The dems didn't even pass one in the house. I'm pissed at them right now.
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-08-11 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #28
29. then you are pissed at the wrong people
sorry if you have no memory of how all that went down last fall
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-08-11 02:38 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. Remind us, then, please.
If how all that went down last fall is an excuse.
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-08-11 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #31
34. why should I educate you on RW talking points - pick up the NYTimes or something & read
we went thru sooooo much bullshit last fall about the republicans using the auto filibuster to block the proposed budget until AFTER the election
enlighten yourself
I'm tired of hearing this RW talking point today
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svsuman23 (111 posts) Fri Apr-08-11 02:45 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. the House Dems were blocked by a repuke auto filibuster?
Heh. I think you must be right.
Here's some upthread fun;
Oh my. I didn't look upthread, only downthread.
There's THREE Republicans at that campfire.
The moderators on Skins's island must be smoking some really good stuff, to miss this.
What's an Auto Filibuster? Is that when you buy a car just to get the salesman to shut up?
What's an Auto Filibuster?
The United States Federal Budget for Fiscal Year 2011, is a spending request by President Barack Obama to fund government operations for October 2010–September 2011. Figures shown in the spending request do not reflect the actual appropriations for Fiscal Year 2011, which must be authorized by Congress. The budget did not pass by the September 30 deadline, and the government has been funded by a series of six continuing resolutions continuing funding at or near 2010 levels, the most recent of which expires on April 8, 2011.
Anybody?
miskie? GOBUCKS?
MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-08-11 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #26
44. Have you ever looked at the US Constitution?
I know it's somewhat out of fashion these days, but.
Article 1, section 7.
The House must pass any budget bill BEFORE the Senate gets to vote on it.
jillan (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-08-11 03:13 PM
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45. This is being discussed right now on msnbc. Congress had a budget, Senate Repubs said they would
filibuster it.
They are interviewing Congressman Adam Smith from the Armed Services Committee.
William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-08-11 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #35
48. Just because you keep saying it's a rw talking point
Doesn't make it one.
A civics book is your friend.
So, the Republicans said they would filibuster it, so rather than passing it and making it the Republican's fault in the Senate, it will now be the fault of the Democrats in in the Senate that we don't have a budget :whistling:
MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-08-11 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #46
49. Those are separate issues!
1. The Dems COULD have passed a budget (at least through the House, if not all the way through the Senate), but didn't.
2. The Repubs are the ones forcing the shutdown now.
Frankly, to complain about #1 now is like complaining that your favorite sports team didn't start so-and-so at such-and-such a position in the crucial game of last season. it's water under the bridge.
Who is to blame for the current "crisis"? Republicans! Let me say that more emphatically!
REPUBLICANS ARE TO BLAME FOR THE CURRENT BUDGET CRISIS!!
Lest anyone thing that i'm a crypto-Republican...
MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-08-11 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #46
49. Those are separate issues!
1. The Dems COULD have passed a budget (at least through the House, if not all the way through the Senate), but didn't.
2. The Repubs are the ones forcing the shutdown now.
Frankly, to complain about #1 now is like complaining that your favorite sports team didn't start so-and-so at such-and-such a position in the crucial game of last season. it's water under the bridge.
Who is to blame for the current "crisis"? Republicans! Let me say that more emphatically!
REPUBLICANS ARE TO BLAME FOR THE CURRENT BUDGET CRISIS!!
Lest anyone thing that i'm a crypto-Republican...
PeanutGallery (7 posts) Fri Apr-08-11 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #35
51. Oh please ...
And you can sit here and just spout off "RW Talking point" all day, and that doesn't make it right either. I work for the federal government, and the fiscal year for the government starts on Oct. 1. Meaning the current fiscal year is from Oct. 1, 2010 to Sept. 30, 2011. Congress, starting with the House, is supposed to do a budget before the start of the fiscal year so that government agencices will know how much they have to spend for the upcoming year. October 1, 2011 starts the FY 2012 spending. Because Congress have to mess around with this, they're behind in working on the budget for FY 2012. As much as you may not like what the OP has said; the fact of the matter is that the OP is right. The House never passed a budget. In fact, there wasn't a vote to pass a budget. Here's a link to Steny Hoyer announcing that there won't be a budget back in June 2010.
No Budget
BTW, I can't believe that people are trying to bust the OP because of their low post count. There was a time you were a member of DU and had only 100 posts. Is there a magic number where a person can post without being questioned as being a freeper?
It's such an awkward conversation, isn't it?
PeanutGallery (8 posts) Fri Apr-08-11 03:43 PM
Response to Reply #45
52. Congress didn't have a budget
I guess Steny Hoyer lied when he said that there wasn't going to be a budget because they felt that they had to wait until after the Debt Commission published its findings. The report wasn't going to come out until after the budget was due. The House, where the budget starts, wasn't going to vote on one, and he doesn't mention the reason being that a Republican filibuster. BTW, the Republican filibuster didn't stop health care reform from passing so why would it work for the budget?
It's such an awkward conversation, isn't it?
Frank,
Just curious. When you send an e-mail to Skinner, does he ever respond to you? I would presume he doesn't but I'm just wondering.
No, and I don't expect my fellow alum to, for two reasons.
Number one, he knows I would screen-capture, photobucket, and post his reply, and out of natural bashfulness, he wouldn't like that. I'm a nice guy; I can understand shyness.
Number two, and much more important than that, by responding to me, Skins would be acknowledging franksolich's existence, which would strike terror in the hearts of the primitives; best for the primitives to imagine franksolich is just a drug-induced delusion.
Drale (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-08-11 02:19 PM
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12. Self Delete
Well, excresence.
Even though the Republicans at the campfire appear to have won the argument, the primitives having no responses to logic and reasoning and recorded fact, it appears this campfire's just going to burn itself out, with no interference by the probably-pot-smoking moderators.
I dunno why Skins lets them--the moderators--get away with it, letting Republicans win an argument.
Justitia (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-08-11 02:18 PM
Response to Original message
6. question for you - when did we have a super majority to overcome the auto filibuster?
atreides1 (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-08-11 02:18 PM
Response to Original message
7. They tried
It was the Republicans in the Senate that kept blocking it...
I think you're right. Looks like it is sinking like a stone now that the conservatives have spoken truth to power.
It was fun while it lasted.
It was fun while it lasted.
We have to do this more often, sir.
Whenever you're up to it, give me a holler.
I'd expected the campfire to be doused (locked), and the Republicans mausoleumed, but I expected wrongly.
Well, I got out the boat and rowed over to Skins's island to see the fate of this campfire.
It's still there, although whichever primitive (or Republican) made comment #47 is no longer there.