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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: namvet on March 30, 2011, 06:37:25 PM
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(http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/ap_libya_rebels_2_jp_110330_ms.jpg)
President Obama has a signed a secret presidential finding authorizing covert operations to aid the effort in Libya where rebels are in full retreat despite air support from U.S. and allied forces, a source tells ABC News.
The presidential finding discusses a number of ways to help the opposition to Moammar Gadhafi, authorizing some assistance now and setting up a legal framework for more robust activities in the future.
The finding does not direct covert operatives to provide arms to the rebels immediately, although it does prepare for such a contingency and other contingencies should the president decide to go down that road in the future.
The White House press office issued a statement saying it does not comment on intelligence matters.
ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/International/president-obama-authorizes-covert-libyan-rebels/story?id=13259028)
I do believe this inexperienced boy just unzipped his fly.
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Shouldn't that be unbuttoned his vest, pulled out his tie, and pissed down his leg? :rotf:
Here is a dump link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4793968
HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-30-11 03:57 PM
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1. Well, that seems like a well kept secret.
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Journeyman (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-30-11 03:58 PM
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3. That's quite a secret order for covert operations. Easier to keep quiet about it if we all know. . .
Shhhhhhhh, it's a secret.
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Pfffttt. Now tell us something we didn't know.
Those Tomahawks didn't find targets by themselves.
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If it was a secret, it isn't now.
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The big surprise is that this wasn't leaked by the New York Times the same day that Obama signed it.
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now its FUBAR
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now its FUBAR
Anything this imposter or administration touch is FUBAR.
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So much for no boots on the ground.
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So much for no boots on the ground.
Obama might hi-jack some of those Crocs donated to Japan, so there won't be boots on the ground. Crocs, part of the fabulous new uniforms for post DADT. :rotf:
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If it was a secret, it isn't now.
The best place to hide something is in plain sight. For some reason I don't buy into that theory. I think its applicable in this case.
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Obama might hi-jack some of those Crocs donated to Japan, so there won't be boots on the ground. Crocs, part of the fabulous new uniforms for post DADT. :rotf:
In pink. :-)
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Obama- "No boots on the ground"... :lmao:
I've said it a hundred times before and I'll say it a hundred times more, never mind what Soetoro says, just pay attention to what he does.
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=8039326
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I seem to recall a certain "non-war" in southeast Asia beginning in almost exactly the same way. Gee, who was the pResident that launched that FUBAR? :confused:
130 years and the progressive Dhimmi'Rat playbook hasn't changed one iota. They're just becoming more blatant about it. :whatever:
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I seem to recall a certain "non-war" in southeast Asia beginning in almost exactly the same way. Gee, who was the pResident that launched that FUBAR? :confused:
130 years and the progressive Dhimmi'Rat playbook hasn't changed one iota. They're just becoming more blatant about it. :whatever:
You know so far Obi_Wun has been compared to Reagan and Ike but he is way more like Johnson, and I don't mean Magic. :popcorn:
Is this his Gulf of Tonkin moment? Can he blame McNamara, I mean Hillary??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident
Four years later, US Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara admitted to Congress that the US ships had in fact been cooperating in the South Vietnamese attacks against North Vietnam. Maddox, although aware of the operations, was not directly
No one at the dump is mentioning the uncanny resemblance that I have seen. Of course many of them were still poopin in their red diapers at that time. The rest chose to remain blissfully ignorant of why protestors took to the streets. Much as they would like to spin it, it was Johnson not Nixon's war. He broke it, he bought it, as Colin Bowel would say.
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yeah I remember that guy. in 68 he said i will not run for or seek re election as prez of your country. we jumped for joy
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You know so far Obi_Wun has been compared to Reagan and Ike but he is way more like Johnson, and I don't mean Magic. :popcorn:
Is this his Gulf of Tonkin moment? Can he blame McNamara, I mean Hillary??
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Actually, I was remembering back to that progressive Icon, Kennedy, and his sending in covert "advisers" to that little southeast Asian shithole.
I would hope in Libya that Lord ObeyWon was following another, similar Dhimmi'Rat play run by JFK: the Bay of Pigs. You know, get the "rebels" all hopped up and raring to go get that evil dictator, and then not send them the support he promised. Somehow, I don't think so, though.
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Actually, I was remembering back to that progressive Icon, Kennedy, and his sending in covert "advisers" to that little southeast Asian shithole.
I would hope in Libya that Lord ObeyWon was following another, similar Dhimmi'Rat play run by JFK: the Bay of Pigs. You know, get the "rebels" all hopped up and raring to go get that evil dictator, and then not send them the support he promised. Somehow, I don't think so, though.
Did I post the dummies dissin JFK? They had quite the round pound on him one day.
I missed your point completely. But, you are exactly right.
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Great, let's help these people now so that they can terrorize us later. Sounds like a good plan...
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Libya Price Tag for U.S.: $550 Million So Far, Members of Congress Express Frustration
The intervention in Libya has cost the United States $550 million through Monday, and going forward, it will cost an estimated $40 million a month as the United States reduces its role, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said today.
we simply can't afford this insanity
source (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/libya-price-tag-united-states-550-million/story?id=13264838)
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I hope this "leak" originated within this morons administration. This might be the first card in the house to fall.
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Everything the son of a bitch does is covert.
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Libya Price Tag for U.S.: $550 Million So Far, Members of Congress Express Frustration
we simply can't afford this insanity
source (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/libya-price-tag-united-states-550-million/story?id=13264838)
That is a completely BS lowball number, the replacement cost of the Tomahawks expended so far by itself is at least half of that total. They cut every accounting corner in the book to come out with that.
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That is a completely BS lowball number, the replacement cost of the Tomahawks expended so far by itself is at least half of that total. They cut every accounting corner in the book to come out with that.
probably someone cooking the books here
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So much for no boots on the ground.
Who the hell believed it wouldn't escalate. Air power wasn't going to a damn thing for that half assed sorry excuse for a bunch of rebels on the ground for a day longer than it did. Not unless we decide to kill every truck and van on that road that looks suspicious, and then we really would be monsters.
Next, more US troops will be on the ground. For what? No matter how this turns out, a regime will be in place in Libya that dislikes the west and hates the United States. I said it before, Obama should have kept his trap shut.
Oh, and I am still waiting for all of those courageous warriors from Britian, France, the Netherlands, and Canada. Not that I'll be holding my breathe, mind you. The President allowed himself to be baited. His foolishness is only surpassed by his arrogance.
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This is your regular old coup. And there will be massive civilian deaths, and don't be surprised if the misfit band of rebels turn out to be the CIA.
The African Union drew up a five point map BEFORE France intervened in Libya. This, was rejected.
To feed your hate for Obama and Hillary, there is news that if Saudi Arabia voted Yes on the No Fly Zone (which no longer applies) they would cover up the messy Bahrain situation.
There are limited options for this outcome. A two state, which will be entirely impossible to uphold without NATO's and American arms deals. Or a full on coup which will be much worse than now, we'll know this by the dimming of the subject of Libya on all three news media outlets.
Also, a side note. Al Jazeera is now a friendly news station safe for your viewing. When the rebels started taking oil fields the government of Qatar opened up their markets. Qatar owns Qatar Broadcasting, which hosts Al Jazeera.
I should also add your friendly oil peddlers got a sizable amount of sweet crude, and then as if naturally in reflex, raised the price of oil.
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This is your regular old coup. And there will be massive civilian deaths, and don't be surprised if the misfit band of rebels turn out to be the CIA.
The African Union drew up a five point map BEFORE France intervened in Libya. This, was rejected.
To feed your hate for Obama and Hillary, there is news that if Saudi Arabia voted Yes on the No Fly Zone (which no longer applies) they would cover up the messy Bahrain situation.
There are limited options for this outcome. A two state, which will be entirely impossible to uphold without NATO's and American arms deals. Or a full on coup which will be much worse than now, we'll know this by the dimming of the subject of Libya on all three news media outlets.
Also, a side note. Al Jazeera is now a friendly news station safe for your viewing. When the rebels started taking oil fields the government of Qatar opened up their markets. Qatar owns Qatar Broadcasting, which hosts Al Jazeera.
I should also add your friendly oil peddlers got a sizable amount of sweet crude, and then as if naturally in reflex, raised the price of oil.
I supose its asking way to much for you to intro yourself.... or is that classified???
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This is your regular old coup. And there will be massive civilian deaths, and don't be surprised if the misfit band of rebels turn out to be the CIA.
The African Union drew up a five point map BEFORE France intervened in Libya. This, was rejected.
To feed your hate for Obama and Hillary, there is news that if Saudi Arabia voted Yes on the No Fly Zone (which no longer applies) they would cover up the messy Bahrain situation.
There are limited options for this outcome. A two state, which will be entirely impossible to uphold without NATO's and American arms deals. Or a full on coup which will be much worse than now, we'll know this by the dimming of the subject of Libya on all three news media outlets.
Also, a side note. Al Jazeera is now a friendly news station safe for your viewing. When the rebels started taking oil fields the government of Qatar opened up their markets. Qatar owns Qatar Broadcasting, which hosts Al Jazeera.
I should also add your friendly oil peddlers got a sizable amount of sweet crude, and then as if naturally in reflex, raised the price of oil.
I am kind of pressed for time got a LINK to the 5 point plan ?
CIA? I thought I read ObieWun was using Blackwater.
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I am kind of pressed for time got a LINK to the 5 point plan ?
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/indepth/2011-04/01/c_13809591.htm
No need to introduce myself, I am here to disassemble.
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http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/indepth/2011-04/01/c_13809591.htm
Am I suppose to introduce myself or something? lol
no you don't have to. but most forums have an intro thread for you to tell us something about yourself. you just signed up today. is this your first time using a forum???
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http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/indepth/2011-04/01/c_13809591.htm
No need to introduce myself, I am here to disassemble.
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thank you for the automated response
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http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/indepth/2011-04/01/c_13809591.htm
No need to introduce myself, I am here to disassemble.
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Of course.
Since our new friend has claimed he's not a liberal (at least not openly), he must be one of those I-pretend-I-don't-like-either-side folks. Which is usually cover for "I'm actually a liberal".
Given past experience with the self-proclaimed genius types, they're so busy trying to play both sides against the middle to be worthless for any kind of meaningful answer to the problems they like to complain about.
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Of course.
Since our new friend has claimed he's not a liberal (at least not openly), he must be one of those I-pretend-I-don't-like-either-side folks. Which is usually cover for "I'm actually a liberal".
Given past experience with the self-proclaimed genius types, they're so busy trying to play both sides against the middle to be worthless for any kind of meaningful answer to the problems they like to complain about.
he's here to "disassemble". his avatar was uploaded to a UK site. the link he gave was from China. shields up scottie???
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Both sides are at fault. The question is what is their driving force? Ultra rich companies. Facebook is going to be buying Robert Gates (Keep your eyes open for internet changes). You want to know my political ideology? Is that it? Something you can prod? I'm for Technocracy (in more defined terms) or Syndo-Anarchism.
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Both sides are at fault. The question is what is their driving force? Ultra rich companies. Facebook is going to be buying Robert Gates (Keep your eyes open for internet changes). You want to know my political ideology? Is that it? Something you can prod? I'm for Technocracy (in more defined terms) or Syndo-Anarchism.
what is it you want to disassemble ????
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Both sides are at fault. The question is what is their driving force? Ultra rich companies. Facebook is going to be buying Robert Gates (Keep your eyes open for internet changes). You want to know my political ideology? Is that it? Something you can prod? I'm for Technocracy (in more defined terms) or Syndo-Anarchism.
And magic mushrooms?
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what is it you want to disassemble ????
Lies and distractions. The worst thing I can do is get it into your conscience and consciousness. You are then fully guilty. If God should exist, there may not be room for this thinking.
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Lies and distractions. The worst thing I can do is get it into your conscience and consciousness. You are then fully guilty. If God should exist, there may not be room for this thinking.
how old are you son ???
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Lies and distractions. The worst thing I can do is get it into your conscience and consciousness. You are then fully guilty. If God should exist, there may not be room for this thinking.
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Is that gun standard or an option?
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I seem to recall a certain "non-war" in southeast Asia beginning in almost exactly the same way. Gee, who was the pResident that launched that FUBAR? :confused:
130 years and the progressive Dhimmi'Rat playbook hasn't changed one iota. They're just becoming more blatant about it. :whatever:
Actually, the US became involved in the Viet Nam war under Truman. Check your history. Eisenhower escalated our involvement, but ever so slightly (military advisors). Kennedy escalated it even more and well, Johnson got us into the battle full tilt. (Coincidentally, Ladybird Johnson owned massive amounts of stocks in Bell Helicopter.)