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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on March 25, 2011, 12:55:29 PM
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Oh my.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-24-11 06:43 PM
DOUG'S STUPID EX-WIFE, #03 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2010
Original message
We've just come off of months of wrestling with the County Planning Department.
Working on the main road, grading, compacting, paving. Putting in a storm drain system because there is a lot of run off and the road goes over a dry creek that does get some action in the rainy season. We needed to finish the work in time to get the performance bond released in order to avoid a foreclosure sale. And, we did.
Those brain damaged county engineer idiots moved the goal posts so many times, I was CERTAIN someone was being bribed to force this property to default. It was unbelievable. We'd get a to-do list, do it, and BLAM, there was a new list.
Oh, and they told our lender that WE were holding up the work! F#ck me sideways, they told the lender we were dragging our feet while we worked seven days a week and put every dime into this work and for months.
So, on this "inside information", the lender wasn't going to cut us any slack. It's a good thing I'm not a violent person.
We avoided a sale by fifteen minutes. That's how close the county cut the release of our bond.
Well, that was Monday. Today, I'm almost not numb from fear any more, lol. But it has been raining really hard for a few days and I get in the truck to make a grocery run and low and behold, this road that, as per the county engineers now meets their standards, IS F#CKING FLOODED and will be impassable if the rain keeps up for another hour.
I haven't seen this kind of flooding since the first year we were here and had done no work on it at all. Between then and last week, we graded it and put base rock down and had the run off handled very nicely so we didn't have to rescue stranded cars every time it rained hard.
The road, in other words, was not flooding until the geniuses at the County Planning Department took it on themselves to fix it.
I have to put a jacket on and go back out there and take a picture that we can throw darts at. Words fail me, really.
After which Doug's stupid ex-wife posts photographs of the property involved.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-24-11 07:39 PM
DOUG'S STUPID EX-WIFE, #03 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2010
Response to Reply #4
5. Santa Clara.
And these @ssholes do things like show up for an inspection hours early, don't call any of our cell numbers, don't come up to the house but talk to an English challenged workman, and write me an email telling me they "walked the property with the contractor".
They are treating this driveway as if it was a road. Fire marshal signs off, the country says it's not up to specs for firetrucks. That kind of sh!t.
Somewhere, there is a palm that needs greasing, I guess. It's just unreal, to the point where just normal people can't develop anything around here because they can't hire an "expediter" to deal with the county, which means someone who knows what to grease and when.
Whoa.
Wait.
What?
Doug's stupid ex-wife is complaining about having to "grease palms"?
Isn't that a prominent characteristic of Democrat state, county, and city machines?
And who's been those Doug's stupid ex-wife has been voting for, all these years?
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-24-11 08:22 PM
DOUG'S STUPID EX-WIFE, #03 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2010
Response to Reply #8
9.....lol
This process for average property owners is the road to ruin. That has to be by design.
My mom has a relationship with the biggest developer in the valley, though. She helped him as a realtor on a couple of projects and he might be willing to lend his name to this. That would help in a lot of ways.
But these jerks at the county need to be pulled up somehow because they nearly put us out on the street in the process of completely screwing up a perfectly good road.
One wonders who runs Santa Clara County--Democrats or Republicans?
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But but but....only Teabaggers hate government regulation and bureaucracy!
Seriously, it's criminal what California does. It's third-world dictator practices.
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They ALL think government is just wonderful until they have to actually deal with it. They have no problem getting the SSDI checks and such but Katy bar the door if they have to fill out a form or piss in a cup!!
KC
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So poor, stupid Beth's financial advice a couple of years ago caused her mother to lose her house, and now she's about to be tossed out of the camper and lose it as well. I'm just upset that the snapshots didn't include the camper. We may never be able to verify if it was a Holiday Rambler or an Airstream. Looks like some primo real estate, though the it's disappointing that you can't see any cacti or sidewinders.
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They ALL thing government is just wonderful until they have to actually deal with it. They have no problem getting the SSDI checks and such but Katy bar the door if they have to fill out a form or piss in a cup!!
My question to you, sir.
Read Doug's stupid ex-wife's first comment closely.
How does making improvements on a property avoid foreclosure?
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It's amazing how they can't make the connection between the kind of government they demanded and the fact that's exactly what they got.
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Santa Clara is a Democrat area, what a shocker that there would be such high government regulation :whistling:
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My question to you, sir.
Read Doug's stupid ex-wife's first comment closely.
How does making improvements on a property avoid foreclosure?
"Avoiding foreclosure" may be a euphemism for "establishing squatter's rights" (http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Squatters+rights) in Beth-speak.
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My question to you, sir.
Read Doug's stupid ex-wife's first comment closely.
How does making improvements on a property avoid foreclosure?
frank, my assumption on this would be they don't have a "Private Road Maintenance Agreement" with the county. When you buy a home, if it has a road that only serves a few homes (or just one) the lender will require some type of proof of a Private Road Maintenance Agreement. IF for some reason that wasn't done OR they lost that agreement then they would have to make any repairs to the road to keep up their end of the deal with their lender.
No lender wants to foreclose on a home that is inaccessible due to a bad road.
KC
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By the way, someone please, please, shoot franksolich if he ever writes "low and behold."
Doug's stupid ex-wife must have been on some powerful mood-altering drugs when she wrote that.
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Holy Cow!
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-24-11 08:22 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. We should start a blog.
Honest.
lol
This process for average property owners is the road to ruin. That has to be by design.
My mom has a relationship with the biggest developer in the valley, though. She helped him as a realtor on a couple of projects and he might be willing to lend his name to this. That would help in a lot of ways.
But these jerks at the county need to be pulled up somehow because they nearly put us out on the street in the process of completely screwing up a perfectly good road.
Now she is begging a CAPITALIST to come to her rescue against the government?!
KC
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Here's another good one;
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-24-11 06:49 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. I still have have a stress hangover but, yeah, going out there now.
Oh, and Mom tells me that they charged her $1700 for EMAILS during this process. And she doesn't dare protest that until it's over.
Swear to gawd.
Guess what Beth. That's what government DOES! They produce nothing so they must make up for it in other areas.
KC
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Here's another good one;
Guess what Beth. That's what government DOES! They produce nothing so they must make up for it in other areas.
KC
Wait 'til she discovers what Skinner charges the DLC per post for keeping her corralled on the 'Island. That's the only way she's worth a damn to anybody. :popcorn:
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By the way, someone please, please, shoot franksolich if he ever writes "low and behold."
Just be sure you always tow the line. A worse one I heard on network news the other day: a reporter described Japanese tsunami survivors searching the wreckage for "momentos". As bad as v****es.
Poor, stupid Beth sure has a shaky grasp on the language for someone who's been "validated as a writer and a thinker" by her DUmpmates.
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Just be sure you always tow the line. A worse one I heard on network news the other day: a reporter described Japanese tsunami survivors searching the wreckage for "momentos". As bad as v****es.
Poor, stupid Beth sure has a shaky grasp on the language for someone who's been "validated as a writer and a thinker" by her DUmpmates.
Why the hell would they need more breath mints? Seems like they would have bigger fish to fry.
KC
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She should have hired a lincensed contractor....or at least one that had the proper equipment and knew what he was doing. Instead, she probably tried to play civil engineer herself and hired a mexican with a pick, shovel and a donkey to do some major grading.
...and watching liberals twisted into knots by the laws they caused to be made makes it much easier to take dealing with such laws.
:lmao: love to hear'em bitch.
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She should have hired a lincensed contractor....or at least one that had the proper equipment and knew what he was doing. Instead, she probably tried to play.
As a validated writer and thinker at the DUmp, I'm sure poor, stupid Beth hired a union contractor to fix the trail up to her mother's camper. DUmmies do not tolerate non-union work, and no one is a bigger DUmmy than poor, stupid Beth.
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Why the hell would they need more breath mints? Seems like they would have bigger fish to fry.
KC
Now that was funny. Hi-5 to you.
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A couple of years back I helped a buddy of mine add anextension for a garage to his house. It required no fill dirt and extended about a two feet beyond the back of the house. He had received all permits that seemed to be required to do so. One day, about halfway through his project, he found a sign in his yard ordering him to cease and desist posted by the State of Maryland Department of Conservation. According to them, his building was illegal because it somehow effected watershed into the Chesapeake several miles away regardless that his septic tank was further back. They did their dead level best to make him look like a criminal.
It took him five months and several recorded meetings and phone calls culminating with the department secretary admitting they had no legal authority to stop his project.
Government with that much hubris and power is scary.
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A couple of years back I helped a buddy of mine add anextension for a garage to his house. It required no fill dirt and extended about a two feet beyond the back of the house. He had received all permits that seemed to be required to do so. One day, about halfway through his project, he found a sign in his yard ordering him to cease and desist posted by the State of Maryland Department of Conservation. According to them, his building was illegal because it somehow effected watershed into the Chesapeake several miles away regardless that his septic tank was further back. They did their dead level best to make him look like a criminal.
It took him five months and several recorded meetings and phone calls culminating with the department secretary admitting they had no legal authority to stop his project.
Government with that much hubris and power is scary.
Any time I hear of government involvement I am reminded of this...
(It's long and everyone's probably read it before, but I still find it funny.)
STATE OF MICHIGAN Reply to: GRAND RAPIDS DISTRICT OFFICE STATE OFFICE BUILDING 6TH FLOOR 350 OTTAWA NW GRAND RAPIDS MI 49503-2341 JOHN ENGLER, Governor DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY HOLLISTER BUILDING, PO BOX 30473, LANSING MI 48909-7973 INTERNET: http://www.deq.state.mius/ RUSSELL J. HARDING, Director December 17, 1997 CERTIFIED
Mr. Ryan DeVries 2088 Dagget Pierson, MI 49339
Dear Mr. DeVries:
SUBJECT: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023-1 T11N, R10W, Sec. 20, Montcalm County
It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality that there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above referenced parcel of property. You have been certified as the legal landowner and/or contractor who did the following unauthorized activity:
Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams across the outlet stream of Spring Pond.
A permit must be issued prior to the start of this type of activity. A review of the Department's files show that no permits have been issued. Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in violation of Part 301,. Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws annotated.
The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams partially, failed during a recent rain event, causing debris dams and flooding at downstream locations. We find that dams of this nature are inherently hazardous and cannot be permitted.
The Department therefore orders you to cease and desist all unauthorized activities at this location, and to restore the stream to a free-flow condition by removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the strewn channel. All restoration work shall be completed no later than January 31, 1998. Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so that a follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff. Failure to comply with this request, or any further unauthorized activity on the site, may result in this case being referred for elevated enforcement action. We anticipate and would appreciate your full cooperation in this matter. Please feel free to contact me at this office if you have any questions.
Sincerely, David L. Price District Representative Land and Water Management Division
----Reply Letter----
Dear Mr. Price:
Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N, R10W, Sec 20; Montcalm County
Your certified letter dated 12/17/97 has been handed to me to respond to. You sent out a great deal of carbon copies to a lot of people, but you neglected to include their addresses. You will, therefore, have to send them a copy of my response.
First of all, Mr. Ryan DeVries is not the legal landowner and/or contractor at 2088 Dagget, Pierson, Michigan - I am the legal owner and a couple of beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of constructing and maintaining two wood "debris" dams across the outlet stream of my Spring Pond. While I did not pay for, nor authorize their dam project, I think they would be highly offended you call their skillful use of natural building materials "debris." I would like to challenge you to attempt to emulate their dam project any dam time and/or any dam place you choose. I believe I can safely state there is no dam way you could ever match their dam skills, their dam resourcefulness, their dam ingenuity, their dam persistence, their dam determination and/or their dam work ethic.
As to your dam request the beavers first must fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam activity, my first dam question to you is: are you trying to discriminate against my Spring Pond Beavers or do you require all dam beavers throughout this State to conform to said dam request? If you are not discriminating against these particular beavers, please send me completed copies of all those other applicable beaver dam permits. Perhaps we will see if there really is a dam violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws annotated.
My first concern is - aren't the dam beavers entitled to dam legal representation? The Spring Pond Beavers are financially destitute and are unable to pay for said dam representation - so the State will have to provide them with a dam lawyer. The Department's dam concern that either one or both of the dams failed during a recent rain event causing dam flooding is proof we should leave the dam Spring Pond Beavers alone rather than harassing them and calling their dam names. If you want the dam stream "restored" to a dam free- flow condition - contact the dam beavers - but if you are going to arrest them (they obviously did not pay any dam attention to your dam letter-being unable to read English) - be sure you read them their dam Miranda rights first. As for me, I am not going to cause more dam flooding or dam debris jams by interfering with these dam builders. If you want to hurt these dam beavers - be aware I am sending a copy of your dam letter and this response to PETA. If your dam Department seriously finds all dams of this nature inherently hazardous and truly will not permit their existence in this dam State - I seriously hope you are not selectively enforcing this dam policy - or once again both I and the Spring Pond Beavers will scream prejudice! In my humble opinion, the Spring Pond Beavers have a right to build their dam unauthorized dams as long as the sky is blue, the grass is green and water flows downstream. They have more dam right than I to live and enjoy Spring Pond. So, as far as I and the beavers are concerned, this dam case can be referred for more dam elevated enforcement action now. Why wait until 1/31/ 98? The Spring Pond Beavers may be under the dam ice then, and there will be no dam way for you or your dam staff to contact/harass them then.
In conclusion, I would like to bring to your attention a real environmental quality (health) problem; bears are actually defecating in our woods. I definitely believe you should be persecuting the defecating bears and leave the dam beavers alone. If you are going to investigate the beaver dam, watch your step! (The bears are not careful where they dump!) Being unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable to contact you on your dam answering machine, I am sending this response to your dam office.
Sincerely, Stephen L.Tvedten x
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BIG Government bureaucracy at your service. Next comes the increase in taxes for improvements made on the property.
You can't make this stuff up.
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I remember when filling in swamps was a sign of progress. Of course, we don't have swamps anymore. The environazis have changed them into "wetlands", similar to how jungles are now "rain forests", and winos are "homeless".