tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Mar-23-11 11:47 AM
Original message
Why I stay at DU (with the occasional short break)
Edited on Wed Mar-23-11 12:08 PM by tavalon
I spent about 3 hours overnight watching Bill Hicks stand up sessions and while I've known for years that he had a Christ mind (sorry, Christians, your guy wasn't the only one, just the most famous one), I realized that had he not died, he would have embraced the internet overall and if he found this place he would have embraced it (and been tombstoned a time or two or three but the bastard would have just come on back) and you know why?
There are a couple of handfuls of Christ minds here. That's a **** of a lot of holy ****ing energy in one place. Almost enough to call this place a church, Heck, the church of the infuriated patriot who doesn't tolerate fools or hypocrisy. It would have been like putting a frog in the bestest of swamps.
An awful lot of you folks and me as well are here because we didn't get the pessimist gene. Neither did Hicks. Before you refute that, think about it a while. He gave up his life to tell us some really important truths. Many who have passed on here, the same could be said of them. Christs.
Even in the midst of the cognitive dissonance of people supporting torture, war, Gitmo, extraordinary rendition and tax cuts for billionaires as long as the politician has a (D) after his or her name, there are a few (dare I hope a majority) who are channeling Bill Hicks and saying, "You're being lied to, manipulated and made stupid and for WHHHHATTTT!!!!! So more stuff can be made out of oil that's ****ing killing us? Mmm,hmmm, okay?" Can you not just here his words here damn near every day.
And that, more than anything is why I stay. I don't stay because I feel much hope for our political system anymore. Now, that would be crazy. But I stay because I recognize a lot of you and I know, I know he would too.
Edited to add: I don't care if you rec it or unrec it but especially if you unrec it, I would love to know the specifics. I'm rolling with laughter at the up and down and down and up of the recs and unrecs and I think, I think it might just be even funnier for me if you would tell me why. Is it because it isn't a topic you think people should see, is it because you don't know who Bill Hicks was (doubtful and if so, find out, now. Or is is that the comment about Demcratic induced hypocrisy hit too close to the bone? Work with me people.
tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Mar-23-11 12:00 PM
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6. Ha, I think I have my very own unrec. stalker
"Whatchya reading for?"
socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Mar-23-11 10:09 PM
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26. Christ mind! Wow, that the nicest compliment I've.......
ever gotten on here! :rofl:
Seriously though, to be a revolutionary, you DO have to be an optimist. Che said it. Trotsky lived it and I'm sure all of the other revolutionaries through the ages did too. You couldn't put up with the shit you have to go through to change things without the optimism to at least think that eventually your side will win. Even if it's after you're dead.
Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Mar-23-11 01:53 PM
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19. I've neither recced nor unrecced this thread, but I really wonder what point
you're trying to make. He loved us until it killed him? Bill Hicks died for our sins, or something? Seriously, I find that weird. Bill Hicks got cancer and died at a young age. It happens.
tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Mar-23-11 09:26 PM
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20. He was an eternal optimist
He also saw the truth only too well. He wanted people to get that truth. He used the medium of comedy to do it. If you don't know about the mind/body connection, then I guess that comment would make no sense. As he got more and more truthful in his comedy, he also became an alcoholic. I'm guessing in his case, it was to numb the pain of the realization that at best, he might be helping a few but mostly he came to see his audience as a bunch of sheep. He quit drinking when he realized it was interfering with his calling, not his work, his calling. But his pancreas and liver had processed to much of his alcohol and anger and he got cancer.
Sure, the quick and easy is that he got cancer and he died. I think he wouldn't have died that young if the truth and his eroding belief in his fellow man hadn't torn him up.
Good grief! I can't think of anythin' else to say. I think I just lost 5 IQ points! Much more and I'm goin' to be on par with DUmmies! Gonna have ta visit the lounge in order to recoup my losses!
I'm not sure what that mess of broken English and word salad even meant.